HardyBoy

How the hell is a virus political? It isn't, please listen, take a breath and listen, this isn't political. The approach that was taken doesn't seem to be working. The time to judge that approach and the pepple leading is later. Right now we need tweaks to the approach now to do better. Also, please stop judging this on deaths only, there is a scary good chance this causes long term permanent damage in younger people. Even if that happens in only 5% of the population of 20-35 year olds, you are talking about huge generational socio-economic impacts. They are seeing this attack the testicles and potentially screw up testosterone level and impact fertility. Stop with the alive or dead narrative, the early data is really concerning...I was yelling about this virus in mid feb and peolle wouldn't listen and started calling me a crazy prepper until the moment the nba cancelled their season, and I was right. I've been saying since mid-march I was really concerned with long term impacts of not super crqzy infections based on SARS, MERS and early data on SARS-COV-2. This was the main story on reuters friday and they are not partisan: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-effects/scientists-just-beginning-to-understand-the-many-health-problems-caused-by-covid-19-idUSKBN23X1BZ If you think this is a conspiracy or whatnot, please consider the fact that your side might just as easily be getting socially engineered. Please, look at the motivations of everyone involved, objectively, trust no-one and then look for the most likely explanation on who has the most to gain with any given narrative. Please, please, please, just take a step back, nobody is attacking you personally, it is a refusal to engage in discussion beyond a few talking points. Your self worth is not diminished if you objectively reevaluate your position based on new evidence. I'm not saying change your mind because people want you to, just objectively view the evidence with regards to the virus without ego. I promise everyone wants the people in charge to succeed right now...this has a legit chance to cause permanent significant damage to healthy young people without significant symptoms, and until we can rule that out, this is extemely serious and not some game of political tic tac toe.

It's all in in terms of team building assets at the expense of future years...maxing out cap space with multi year deals, trading a lot of picks for short term value, but leaving the cupboard bare as they say, etc.

Then when she ends up having the kid, just say you were joking about pregnancy tests you always wanted her to get a pregnancy test (it's on us if we couldn't detect the sarcasm) and say were actually talking about a paternity test. That corrupt, Maurey Pauvich, calling me on his show to do a paternity test. And he's a phony, phony Maurey people call him, and it's all for the ratings and his ratings stink, though sometimes I do get surprised when they say "you are the father." I think wow, that is like a time machine, going back in the past to see who the dad was, poor guy has to live in these magical times of time travel, but the rating stink folks, they stink. Now they want you to believe that I am the father, but they have no proof, it's all fake news people, it's fake, they're just trying to use me for the ratings.

Well said. I think we saw the same concern with the virus being prevalent in hot south east asian counties in Feb and March. Regarding the bolded part, living in south florida, I think something that needs to be talked about way more is that during the summer down here, people go inside, and we spend a lot more time outside during the rest of the year. Not to discount people not taking it seriously, there are a ton of people acting business as usual down here. It's not even that we spend less time outside during the summer, it's that we can't really spend that much time outside if we wanted to. Forget the heat for a second (with an umbrella as long as the humidity isn't absolutely brutal you can handle it, and honestly I don't think we've even really hit the start of summer weather quite yet), it's the mosquitos. We got over 17 inches of rain in May and another 5.5 in June in fort lauderdale (mostly in big rainfall events). The mosquitoes are absolutely brutal on my back deck (hoping I found where they were breeding and flipped over a bucket, but our plants down here evolved to literally hold water in them for birds and such to drink out of. I actually bought a giant mosquito net when all this started back in feb, but the idea of having to take it down before every rain storm is keeping me from putting it up. Anyway, short version, I think in the summer up north people go outside, and down south in the summer people go inside, especially south florida where everything is pretty much so efficiently air conditioned.

Haha, except they always realize it after just about everyone is dead and it's delivered like: "As Jimmy stumbled out of the zombie apocalypse with the bits of his friends still floating down from the sky around him, Jimmy chose to focus on living his life differently going forward. In fact Jimmy learned a valuable lesson that day as he realized in the moment before the zombie bit his head off. That moment when his fear gave way to calm acceptance and the zombie just poof, vanished. He had it within him the entire time, amd though he didn't realize in time to save 30 of his closest friends and family, but he would keep with him forever the fact that they did not die in vain, and with that knowledge he could finally be happy. Because on that day he realized that fear is the root of all evil." Or something like that...I just read 500 pages for that moral! I've only read Cell, Despiration and Green Mile by him though and it was like 10 years ago...Green Mile for the win though, sooo good! Dean Koontz is similar in how he does that too a bit.

I think the understanding on the situation has changed on here a lot today on (maybe over the last few days, I hadn't been on in half a week or so). There are stages for dealing with things like this, similar to the stages of grief, and it looks like a lot of people are starting to make their way through to the end of them. I'm pretty objective in my approach initially to things, so I think that allows me to zoom past some of stages a bit at first. That's good in some ways (I was stocked up on stuff by the end of Feb), but bad as well, because when I go back to the stages later and am ready to talk about it, everyone has moved on (my dad died from cancer when I was 21, and I faked my way through the next few years with saying I was over it, and then finally was ready to deal with it and everyone had moved on...sorry for the downer in what is otherwise a super uplifting conversation, lol...fathers day sort of sucks especially now 15 years later having two young kids and everyone posting pictures of their dads and kids playing together). Anyway, point is, be kind to people that might not be ready to fully accept this situation, each one of us was doing the same thing at some point as we moved along the stages. Also, make sure you are asking people close to you how they're doing with situations as sad and stressful like this, especially your kids if they are old enough to talk about it, because even if they said good 100 times, they might just be uncomfortable talking about it. I would expect this to be a dam bursting situation with kids especially and just a ton of emotion pouring out when they are ready to talk about it fully. There is no need for them to carry that trapped deep down in them for 15 years.

Wait, so you are drawing a moral equivalence between people rising up in peaceful protest (99% of the protests have been peaceful) to bring attention to systemic racial injustice and going to the local outdoor store to buy a cooler? I'm not even gonna get into the entirely peaceful protesters protesting and press reporting on it in front of the white house, a symbol of American democracy more important as a representation of anyone can hold that office (I mean I guess that's more literal than I always envisioned it these days) than the flag, being pepper sprayed. Please, can you please please please show a picture of those protesters with their masks off (which they only took off because they got tear gassed), eyes red with tears and chemical agent, coughing all over each other because of the gas...so that in the foreground, with tear gas floating in the air and unmarked police marching in a line behind them in the middle ground, anf then the person most highly entrusted with ensuring the constitution is not stepped on in the background holding an upside down bible? I will bend over backwards to try and find middle ground with just about anyone to a point, and I hate left vs right line in the sand crap, because it's just flat out insane that on a multitude of topics any one side of an argument can be fully the best path forward, but you are making it a bit challenging. I would encourage you to try and be a bit more open to listening, because I'm sure you have valuable points to add to the conversation when you get past the repeating of someone else's talking points put in your mouth for their own personal gain.

Right, so you have peer reviewed research showing a consensus of research showing face mask wearing is at best inconclusive? Can you share that with us please? Cause if you're using the term science, you kinda gotta stick to the scientific method. Because science isn't like "your opinion man." It is applying a standardized method of gaining replicatable outcomes tested against a hypothesis to develop a larger understanding. So let's see your repeatable research

Are you excluding nyc and other early hot spots, because those aren't representative of the rest of the country at this point, especially nyc that had so many people. They were a few weeks ahead on the exponetial growth curve than the rest of the country.

I don't know either. What I think happens with unhealthy lifestyles is the arteries narrow with buildup, making it more likely a small piece of cholesterol coming loose or a small clot could block the blood flow. A big clot could do the same thing I would imagine. Interesting though that they put stents in...that makes me think the blood vessels were too narrow and needed to get opened back up. You wouldn't think they'd do something like that if there was just a random one off blockage.

Well, that paper in nature is talking about a crazy significant drop in free testosterone, so pretty much...

Covid19 is causing clotting issues and the evidence is mounting that this is true for mild cases in healthy younger people: https://www.npr.org/2020/04/28/847447222/covid-19-thickens-blood-causes-strokes-in-some-patients-with-mild-symptoms I would imagine if it can cause a stroke or pulmonary embolism they can block the heart as well (that particular article talks more about strokes specifically). Yes, google: covid clotting mild symptoms This is a crazy diseases and that to me is the most likely explanation that doesn't require extremely rare things to be happening with his genes or other random things.

https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/health-management/yoga-teacher-practicing-again-after-covid-19-triggered-cardiac-arrest Carr knew she had COVID-19 when she experienced mild symptoms and then got a positive test result, though she’d been social distancing and being as careful as she could. But staying home to wait it out was no longer an option when that seemingly minor case of COVID-19 turned into heart failure – and four episodes of cardiac arrest.

Did he have covid19?

You have absolutely no basis to say that this isn't dangerous to young people or people who don't get really sick, and there is mounting evidence saying that you are so incredibly wrong. People are judging this thing soley on alive or dead, and must save the economy today and that is not the right way to judge this. If I'm a pro athlete, where even a 1% change in my body's metabolic function could be the difference between hall of fame and out of the league, no way am I messing around with this virus. In terms of larger society, here's a huge problem: they know 100% this attacks the testicles. They 100% are seeing concerning testosterone level ratio changes in otherwise healthy males to the point where they are recommending follow up reproductive health screenings to males wanting to have kids later (first link below). What happens to the economy in 30 or 50 years if even 5% of population becomes infertile as a result of this (granted we're screwed either way, because exponetial economic growth means exponential non-renewable resource growth and we live on a planet with finite resources, but an economic model requiring infinite exponential growth to keep up with the exponential interest on the debt)? Don't think that's possible that a virus causes huge society wide impacts? Go look at polio...go look at pictures of small pox survivors (warning they are very disturbing, and then remember Europeans intentionally infected native Americans with small pox). Then tell me a virus that just came out of nowhere can't have incredible incredible impacts on a society. Not to mention all the other potential lasting impacts that they have no way ruled out of people that are asymptomatic or have very few symptoms. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41585-020-0319-7 https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms

Wouldn't paying for the loans taken out to buy the teams count as debt? Assuming they didn't pay for it outright.

No false start jokes yet? I don't know nearly enough about guard play to have a real opinion.

Something based on gender or race? Maybe as a dumb teenager or in their early 20s with very minimal life experience, but as an adult? Might want to reevaluate that "everyone" and change it to some people or a few people. Now, I mean have I done things outside of work that potentially could have gotten me in trouble at work if it went viral...sure, I'm 100% with you there, but non satirical off color jokes about race or gender...nah, probably not the norm honestly.

I don't see the front office or this coaching staff doing that in this case...if this wasn't satire, which I've expressed my thohghts on already, this is a teachable moment (I guess I'm assuming this was a joke at worst if not satire, and not his true underlying belief system, but even then he's what, 22...not excusing racism in 22 y/o, just they really arent their own person yet). Even then, this is a really good opportunity for the team to come together and help someone grow.

Again, difference in a joke vs satire. Agree, not a tasteful joke...if it is satire used as a metaphor to show general things through a single example taken to an extreme...and proving a point very clearly that charging so much for supressors that essentially only elite white people are able to get them, and that is largely what is happening with say a college education, where the vaaaast majority of people graduate with student debt...it's a pretty solid satirical sarcastic comment...that said, I have no idea if that's what he was doing.

If he was saying that fully sarcastically as an example of the outome of systemic racismand income inequality that shouldn't be a problem (and I don't believe it would be a problem). Issue is, it's so easy to not get that context in a text...this is a situation where you would need to see other texts and comments, especially because that is pretty right on in terms of satire that aligns with what truly needs to change systemically.

Not from first hand experience, but pretty sure the move is to put a Pam in as a Pat...you're doing it wrong

Trolling? Calling a d1 punter terrible...lol, ok. Also, the nfl is not good at developing kickers and punters. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/11/22/20976974/nfl-kicking-regression

I mean there are only 32 spots available. Even the worst punter in the league is an insanely amazing punter.

Lol was thinking the same thing with oj...well done!