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Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
bubba2018 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
that 24 draft is so f ing brutal🤣🤣 -
brother Bill is annoying…but I hated those glasses the first time I saw them.
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Close your eyes, give me your hand, darling Do you feel my heart beating? Do you understand? Do you feel the same? Am I only dreaming? Is this burning an eternal flame?
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Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
JohnNord replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Not every draft pick that you make is going to be a starter - especially when you get to the Day 3 picks. If those guys are productive depth players you can argue it’s a decent pick. But the trends that you identified here are valid. Beane’s just not getting enough return on his “premium” draft picks. It goes back to his failure at struggling to add high end talent to surround Josh -
This is what he means by managing expectations. What you're wanting isn't what's going to happen. You can't expect a Rookie who missed half of Training Camp, all of the Pre-Season, and hasn't practiced with the team since July to a.) Play the week his practice window opens up and b.) Immediately play a large amount of snaps. He'll have his practice window opened up. Then he'll get a week of Practice, be inactive that week, get the next week of Practices, and maybe they'll activate him for that game. Though it wouldn't surprise me to see McDermott want him to get all 21 days in before activating him to play. And then when they do activate him, at least that first week (probably multiple weeks), they'll be cycling him in on a snap count to get his sea legs under him. They aren't going to change his development plan and possibly hinder it by pushing him before they think he's ready, based on panicking over Tre. I wouldn't expect him to start until like Week 11 or 12 at the earliest and that's if all goes swimmingly. If you want Tre out of the lineup now, you have to cross your fingers for them bringing in another vet in FA or Trade.
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10/13/2025 Bills at Falcons - Post game thread
SinceThe70s replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
I will not "go find the draft recap / video that came out after drafting Josh when Schoen and Beane were interviewed on the process leading up". But thanks for the homework assignment to back up your claim. Instead, I'll take you at your word. With that said, I'm not so sure it's commonly accepted that Daboll made the Josh pick. -
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A HC got fired after winning the Super Bowl two years prior. Why do the Bills not fire McBubbles?
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The question I always ask is, "Is Coach __________ better than Mike Tomlin?" because that's the most mid coach I can think of. The Bills mental errors, poor game planning and game management and lack of scheme adjustment are reflective of the coaching. There's some validity to saying the QB makes the coaching looks a lot better than it otherwise would. It's gone on like this for a long time. I've said since before Dick Jauron that the play that most reveals your level of coaching is the screen pass, either executing or defending it. How would people rate the Bills with McDermott on that play?
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Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
Cray51 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
I compared the last three drafts (not the current season, too soon) of Buffalo compared to a few other teams who have been in similar situations as the Bills (Division winners since 2020, high end QB). That pretty much leaves Baltimore and Kansas City. And with that, Baltimore had a few down years (21-22 and 22-23). Bills: Draft Picks: 2024: Coleman - Meh so far Bishop - Meh so far Carter - Bust Davis - Meh Van-Prager - Bust Ulofisho - Bust Solomon - Bust Grable - Unknown (they like him a lot) Hardy - Bust Clayton - Bust No standout talent Ravens: 2024: Wiggins - Good Rosengarten - Meh Isaac - Bust Walker - Bust Tampa - Meh (bad year so far) Ali - Bust Leary - Bust Samac - Bust Kane - Bust KC: 2024: Worthy - Meh/Good (He has had big games, but his career stats are almost EXACTLY like Colemans') Kingsley - Meh Wiley - Bust Hicks - Meh Nourzad - Meh Hadden - Bust Hanson - Bust 2024 Summary: None of the teams hit on a stud in this draft. Worthy has shown a flash or two, but the production doesnt match the way some speak of him here. Wiggins is probably the best player of the group to date. No superstars or even stars out of the group yet (maybe Wiggins, but I'd say that's a stretch) 2023: Bills: Kincaid - Meh/Good (Trending well but injured frequently) Torrence - Good (Maybe really good) Williams - Meh Shorter - Bust Broeker - Bust Austin - Bust for the Bills, Meh pick overall Ravens: Flowers - Good Simpson - Good Robinson - Meh Kelly - Bust Laulu - Bust Vorehees - meh KC: Uzomah - Bust Rice - Good Morris - Bust Conners - Meh (decent player though) Thompson - Bust Coburn - Bust Jones - Bust 2023 Summary: Again, all similar results to date. Baltimore with probably the best results, but you could argue the Bills have had two legit impact players on their offense in Kincaid and Torrence. KC with the worst draft of the group, Uzomah was a massive bust 2022 Draft: Bills: Elam: Bust Cook - Great Bernard - Good Shakir - Good Araiza - Good (Bust for Bills) Benford - Good Tenuta - Bust Spector - Bust Ravens: Hamilton - Great Linderbaum - Good Ojabo - Bust Jones - Good Faalele - Meh Armour-Davis - Bust Kolar - Bust Stout - Good Likely - Good Williams - Bust Badie - Bust KC: McDuffie - Great Karlaftis - Good Moore - Bust Cook - Good Chenal - Good Williams - Good Kinnard - Bust Watson - Meh Pacheco - Meh Johnson - Bust Summary: Really strong draft year. Baltimore really lucked into Hamilton this season, the fact that he fell is crazy. Elam bust stick out, but the Bills had a really strong rest of the draft. Overall, I'd say all three teams had a great draft - hard to differentiate impact. Overall summary - None of the teams have been head or shoulders above the others over the past three drafts (22-24). Each team have had their share of hits (McDuffie, Hamilton, Cook), and their share of busts (Uzomah, Elam). If you try to compare the Bills draft to any other teams, they tend to have picked much earlier than them from 2020-2025, which drastically impacts the results. At the end of the day, if you are upset with the Bills draft results from the past few years, you could be a fan of KC or Baltimore and saying the exact same thing. I'll need to cover FA in another post -
My track record is a strong argument for to never get too into sports betting. There was only one magical year: 2018. When no one had any faith in the Bills and it was stealing money betting on how certain players would perform. No more.
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Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)
Mikie2times replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
I don't think he's handicapped per say. We didn't break the bank to bring in John Brown, Cole Beasley, Hyde, Poyer, and several others. These were massive value adds at the time. We just aren't bringing in players of that level at this point. Then you look at guys like Diggs and Miller. Which in my opinion were the correct moves. But I think it left Beane feeling a bit burned. Now he seems gun shy to consider "A" talent moves outside of trying to get them in the draft. It seems like all of our signings are complimentary type signings. When during the first build those signings felt more like foundational pieces. Our foundation has now become the drafts of the last 3-5 years which even if looked at favorably have not produced a lot top talent. Then we haven't been creating high level competition for those drafted players. We challenge them with FA depth pieces. But we don't say, can I actually do better than a Daquan Jones, Cole Bishop, Rapp or Bernard etc. I'm not even sure any of these guys even start outside of Buffalo. Then we walk right into a situation where if we can't draft a day 1 starter Tre White is starting for us. That was literally the plan. It's just so badly executed at this point. I don't know what has happened with Beane the last few years but he's just not the same guy. -
Other than putting him in man I fully agree. He played in a zone heavy defense at Kentucky if I’m not mistaken. There’s gonna be bumps along the way no matter what. The best way for him to get better is to get him out in the field against good NFL offenses.
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I don't want to see these glases or the rival jerseys again.
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Did we already miss the window with Josh
90sBills replied to BritishBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
This is more true than most young single guys realized. lol -
Seriously. You drafted the guy in the first round at a position of need. If he is mostly healthy you throw him out there and develop him as best you can. Enough of the BS.
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They just release a PS guy and Ciarlo, so it looks like Ciarlo back to the PS and don't we have 3 spots now for the PED and Max?
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Mahomes is working the refs from the first quarter. He gets right in their faces. Their WRs also flop if they feel a tug. Getting calls is part of their gameplan. We ought to do some of that. BTW, Vrabel was working the refs during their game with the Bills. That's how they got that OPI call that changed the game. These are games that successful teams play to get an advantage.