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Do you believe a violent criminal who comes to the US because they are wanted in Mexico, or another country, to be an invader? And yes there is enough of those that it needs to be discussed

Wouldn't the pats have to lose? The bills would tie them with the pats having the tie braker.

Ask the Falcons and pats. We'll find out more sunday.

Bull, while I appreciate your enthusiasm, I really do, the fact is we are not getting consistent separation. Coleman has proven now in two years he’s too slow, and also has two team discipline infractions. We need one of the several names floated these past two weeks by insiders. On the positive side, I believe Palmer participated yesterday in some capacity yesterday. If we want the most remote hope of winning Sunday, we need him, as well as a great day by Cook. We also need Kinkaid to make it through the game. Beane needs toget his head out of his behind, and find a trade partner. Just admit he was horribly wrong on Coleman (not publicly of course) by trading for a real WR. I’m normally pretty positive about McBeane, but this isn’t working. We can’t reasonably expect Cook to run for 216 yards every game.

If we get down early, do we continue to run or go into panic mode and attempt to pass to covered receivers and perhaps turn the ball over? I would continue to run if we get down and at least try to keep the game close and lessen the risk of turning the ball over.

Bills running game, and offense is much better when under the center. Another tip for you Joe. Yes Bills are so predictable Joe Brady. It’s easy for me to know from my couch what the Bills are calling. You are correct sir- 12 and 13 personal- we are going to run. Shotgun we are passing. 2nd and 2 we are running instead of play action. Me and many have been pounding the table for more passing out of 12 and 13 personal. The numbers back my claim- Bills are very successful passing out this formation. Don’t the Bills have an analytics program? Does Brady not believe in analytics?

You can’t run play action when on 3rd and short they frequently have an empty backfield. How about on the 1st offensive play of the game, since video of their games would show they usually run, they have Josh under center, do play action and throw deep? It seems like the last three OCs have done the same things where they too often make it easy for the opposing defenses by taking away the element of surprise. Three TEs, they’re going to run. Spread out wide with empty backfield and they’re going to pass. Lack of imagination. They used to run that jet sweep with McKenzie where they timed it perfectly where Josh took the snap just as McKenzie approached him, the O-linemen stood up and the defense couldn’t see that he was handed the ball until he was coming around the end. Haven’t seen that in awhile. You’d think they could do the same thing with Samuel or Moore.

They beat us at home in prime time. Their other wins were pretty good. Should they be 3.5-2 instead of 6-2?

Maybe, but a large part of why they didn’t win that Super Bowl was because they couldn’t get the giants offence off the field, Josh wouldn’t have made any difference in that respect. Maybe he’d have scored more points when on the field though

why are you neglecting the Pats and Atlanta game where they were behind all game and only scored 20 and 14 points? That is not elite offense.

Bills also lost to Bengals at home in 2022 playoffs.

That was Ed. There was a rhyme about him that became banishment fodder. Ed got married and stopped posting. His wife seemed to take over the wearing of the family’s pants. His screen name was something like IGTB81…..something like that.

The Bills would go from “the only team to make four in a row” to “the only team to make four in a row without a pop star’s presence influencing the league into driving a narrative for money”. Sure it adds a few words but it would still be a unique achievement.

This is arguably the scariest passing offense we will face this year. We all saw what Baltimore and Atlanta did to our secondary. Now we are expected to contain the likes of Rice, Worthy, Brown, Thornton, Kelce and Gray. On the other side of the ball, their defense has allowed a total of seven points in the last two games. And now we are expecting our clunky, injury-prone passing offense which lacks a true deep threat to cut up their number one scoring defense? Only an optimist could rationally take the Bills here. I'm not an optimist and I'm expecting a bloodbath. Bills........21 Chiefs....38 .

They were good teams. It's an accomplishment for sure, but I don't really think about those years too much anymore. That run was over 30 years ago at this point. They should have gotten the first one. It snowballed after that. Then those Cowboys teams were basically unstoppable.

Chiefs 34 - Bills 21 And I don't think the game will even feel that close. I just think their defense will load the box against Cook, and play a ton of cover 0 on Josh. Our WR's can't uncover quick enough. Only if the passing game becomes an extension of the run game this week will we have a chance. I'm not confident Brady can scheme to combat this, and I'm not confident in our defense to stop what they do.

No need to worry, we will still be the only team to make it to 4 straight Superbowls and lose every one. That record will never be broke 🤣

The Chiefs are going to load the box against Cook, and take their chances playing a bunch of cover 0. Spags will be dialing up the blitz early. I hope Brady and Josh will be ready for this. The passing game will have to be an extension of the run game this week, just until we can loosen up the box a bit. Slants, quick passes in the flats, quick in routes in space, and it would also be nice if we actually hit on some screen plays as well. We still need to get Cook in space. If they do this, and execute, we will have a chance. The Chiefs are 4th in the league, allowing only 277 yds per game. To me, this feels like the Atlanta game all over again. I don't have much faith in our coaching staff, especially on defense, to come up with a gameplan to stop what the Chiefs do. I think, again, we will see the disparity in coaching rear it's ugly head.

We'll find out Sunday. KC is going to key on the run game and force us to throw the football.

I can't help but laugh at the juxtaposition of the top two posts on this board being this one and "Are Beane and McDermott building a secretly elite offense?"

You make it sound like we've just been running the ball and scoring at will on the ground against anyone and everyone. And that the passing game is what it is bc we simply don't have to do it and aren't doing anything but running. There's been multiple times we've had to do it. We had two straight weeks of losses, one against the lowly Falcons where we needed to pass to win and couldn't get the job done. This past week we ran into a .500 Panthers squad with Andy Dalton (with a broken thumb) at QB. We ran all over them and that's great. We didn't need to pass again. We were playing a poor team. It goes back to the same overall point. Our passing woes are not a result of simply not needing to pass. If that were the case, New England and Atlanta wouldn't have gone down the way it did. And we aren't going to play Carolina every week. I just don't see how you can look at the talent on the field from the pass catching room, the metrics of guys (not) getting open, and the metrics of (poor) separation, the results when our running game isn't unstoppable, and the simply point to some YPA metrics and think this is a "secretly elite offense". Very good Running offense, sure. But that alone doesn't make an "Elite" offense. Our passing game, more specifically our WR'a, keep it from that.

All great points. Agree with the point made. However , I’m sure like me there are those on here that have watched the bills or football for 30-40 years. The eye test , your gut feeling, your basic football knowledge, intuition, whatever you call it is a real thing and probably just as valid judging a teams play quality by mathematical analysis or other metrics. You know when the Bills look good and have that swag. This year it’s not there , at least yet. Yes we beat the ravens by 1 point , after they just did things to collapse and we did force some lucky turnovers. 9/10 times we lose that game but that night things went our way by ONE POINT after our d gave up 40! We all know giving up 40 usually is a loss. So in my eyes it’s a win , but that’s about all to say about it. Then we beat poor teams like the jets, saints , panthers. We lose at home where you normally are given a 3 point edge , to a qb just starting his second year , a new head coach just beginning to build his roster , and we looked bad on 0 , scoring what 20, after Beane baby chastised a radio host because we lead the league LAST YEAR SCORING 30 a game. Where was 30 that game Beane baby. First real evidence that take cook away and WRs can’t get open. Plus we saw a player Beane had praised be disciplined , fumble in the pats red zone , and drop passes while flailing his arms ! Not the true 50/50 , greatly improved guy we were told about in camp. Beane digging in on his delusion. We proceed to go to Atlanta. Everybody knew we had to stop 2 people , Robinson and the receiver. We gave up an embarrassing 335 yards in the first half and our offense looked terrible as cook was easily shut down. Josh looked confused as did the o line. Terrible game. Since the fins demolished the falcons as did another team and we saw how great the fins were tonight. Two bad losses when many on this lard touted an undefeated season or how it was a given for the 1-seed! You know who you are ! Every football analyst like Orlovsky , the nfl films guy on brownies bills show , even fitzy tonight on prime stayed the bills are not playing as goood as the chiefs or colts and it comes down to 3 things. Like Steve smith said , thus is a wr corp of 3’s and 4’s and Coleman is not that guy now , and is playing lazy snaps and so afraid to be hit he didn’t even look at the db on a slant , just caught the ball with his body and turtled rather than catch w his hands and get yac. They all state this wr corp is not sb quality. They all also point out Josh’s decrease in performance and no ones sure why tho a terrible receiving corp he lacks confidence in may play a role. Even Josh admitted his fundamentals are off. Finally , but not least , all who are honest know this d has been a mess until last game. But do you trust your analysis playing a terrible team with a horrible perfidy by dalton to say thus d is now good? I don’t. Dalton is no Mahomes , and Reid wasn’t coaching Dalton. My point is, trust your eye test and your bills knowledge. Reid is 4-0 against McD in playoffs , while we are 4-1 in regular season games. This is not a typical regular season game. It’s critical in the standings first both. If we lose , kiss the 1 seed which Beane and Mcd stressed so much as the path to the SB all offseason! Pats will prob take the division based on schedule. We lose and KC , colts, ravens , pats are all suddenly looking to be peaking at the right time , November, and we are fighting for a wild card in all likelihood. So far we have beaten only poor teams except for the very lucky win against the ravens, and watching them tonight , if we play them again it’s likely we lose. They are getting more healthy , we aren’t and we are filling our roster with guys we previously let go over a year ago ( and they were also let go by other teams ) , and our starters like benford , Milano, our undersized mlb , Coleman , white are not living up to expectations as we wait to see if Hancock and Hairston can catch up. We even have a ? At kicker now. Palmer is out and Oliver is out , not good for a game we’re already overmatched talent wise ( an opinion by most analysts , and both sides of the ball). So , yes , we have a record of 5-2. BARELY! My eyes tell me this roster is not SB quality , and perhaps Josh can do enough if he plays better , to get us a wildcard birth and outside shot at the division should we lose against KC. I dint have faith in Beane doing anything but protecting his own reputation and pride. While the world calls for a wr addition like olave, I’m betting he does nothing to help Josh w a wr. He will point out Gabriel is on the way! He was terrible in Jax! Not all wins are equal. If so , we have the better record , playing at home ( yet we’re home dogs) so we should beat KC , right? Hey we could get a cowboys like running type win, but spags is no cowboy. What does your gut , your eye test of bills play say to you? Mine says if we get behind at any time by more than 1 possession, it’s over. My eyes also tell me it will lead to more losses with a wr corp that like Steve said , is poor and filled with WRs who scare no other team. Another wasted year of a superstars career that is half over or more. Quality of opposition, quality of wins is predictive of future play. If you dont believe that , then explain how Vegas sets odds and why they are so successful at attaining wealth ? Can the Bills win Sunday ? Yes if they run well and win the turnover battle by 2 imo. My eyes also tell me we beat crap teams so far , KC is getting better and they have a larger margin to make mistakes and win. I think they pound this d , Brady abandons the run , and this wr corp can’t get open to make up any deficit. Bills possibly miss playoffs with a loss, while a win to me means they have embraced being a run team and they make Josh the superstar , a manager as Beane won’t get quality WRs. That’s not great to watch in all honesty but winning is all that matters now. Prior games have meaning and so far this roster looks below par being lead by a true star whose career is flying by. Beane is nice? I see him as arrogant. Happy Halloween!

Cool, can't wait to see the photos of the 3 J's together at last.

The refs will have a big day i’m sure. But I’d like for Hairston to shine. Maybe he can show Coleman how to meet expectations.

I'm completely indifferent to it. It's certainly not an accomplishment that you can use as a flex, because if you do, you know damn well what comments are coming next.