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Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
LEBills replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
Let’s assume you are right. It would be the wrong approach by the Bills to limit their offense that way. It doesn’t have to be a vertical passing attack like Dorsey ran, but you have to at least have that option in your bag or, as others have stated before, defenses will compress the middle of the field and make it even harder for your pass catchers to get open and space for your running backs to run. So regardless, I am going to say we need to try to draft receivers going forward. -
George Pickens Traded to the Cowboys
Captain Hindsight replied to Process's topic in The Stadium Wall
Probably making room for Jordy Nelson on the roster -
Interesting thought. You’re probably right. I can’t imagine that this would be something Rodgers wanted. The trade is an interesting one. Pickens has all kinds of ability but is an idiot. He’s an explosive playmaker that has played with 🗑️ QBs and voiced his frustration. We will see how it works in Dallas. Dak is much better than what Pickens has played with but so is Lamb. They’re either going to have an incredible passing game or it’s going to go up in flames. 🤣🤣
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Oh yeah?! How about Chase Claypool?
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My quick two cents is that Rodgers is hanging it up and/or not coming to Pitt and they have word. No way they trade Pickens if they get one more bite at the apple with Rodgers/Pickens
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Kaiir Elam's inactive roster spot will be much improved
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Well, the only person talking about love thy brother is the preacher And it seems, nobody's interested in learning, but the teacher Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration Aggravation, humiliation, obligation to our nation Ball of confusion Oh yeah, that's what the world is today Woo, hey, hey
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He’s going to be pissed that Lamb gets all the targets.
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I’m willing to give Dalton year 3 before I draw any conclusions. He was pretty banged up last year and had a very good rookie season. I doubt he’s been able to put on much weight if any while recovering from the PCL. To you guys who say you were at 5% bodyfat, post your stage pics. That’s a professional bodybuilders level of lean. The amount of time/training/cardio/calorie restriction that takes is beyond 99% of the population. Getting to around 10% is doable if you are strict. Getting from 10-5% is a whole nother level of pain.
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Perfect player for Dallas. An overrated malcontent with a big name who will ultimately just prove to be a distraction.
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OMG WHY WOULDN'T WE DO THIS!!!!!!!!!!! Pittsburgh's diva receivers ALWAYS do well after they leave.
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Florida has nice weather, beaches and Disney, I would like them to join Canada. Peacefully as the 12th province. Texas has talked I dependence, is there a legal way for them to form their own country?
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It's amazing that one grainy picture has erupted into 9 pages of bitching. Incredible, really.
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Got blown up on the 4th down sneak, and it was his fault they didn't get that inch there.. Also can't catch. Time to move on, no 5th year for him.
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Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!
Mikey152 replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
I understand the WR train premise. I’d even go as far as to say I don’t think it is entirely wrong. Where I do think a lot of you make a bit of a mistake is you go in with a premise (our offense needs better WR, specifically outside) and you go looking for evidence that supports it instead of looking at ALL of the evidence without bias and coming to more objective conclusions. Im going to make my case with 4 WR: Diggs, Davis, Cooper and MVS. Let’s start with Diggs. Statistically, he was a top WR in the NFL with the Bills for most of his tenure here, and I bet few would argue the eye test matched. The prevailing story for his drop off in 2023 was some combination of he had lost a step and locker room issues, but the truth is he started 2023 on fire. Then the Bills hit a rough patch, fired Dorsey, and his game tanked. His targets went down, his depth of target went down, his focus went down. So did his skills erode, was he on the naughty list, or did the offense maybe just change? Then you have Davis. Total boom of bust as an outside WR. Made a lot of big plays, but his targets also resulted in a disproportionately large amount of the Bills negative plays under Dorsey. Enter Brady and his snaps go up while his targets go down (except in that one weird game where they fed him the ball on short stuff). He’s blocking more and going deep less. Seems frustrated. Next up, MVS. Definitely a flawed receiver, but pretty much a prototype deep receiver. Big and fast and can track a football. The bills made a concerted effort the first few weeks of 2024 to get him some snaps and take some deep shots, but they could never connect and often stalled drives. Ultimately they wind up cutting him to acquire cooper. He goes to NO and resumes being an effective deep threat there (way over 20 ypc). Which leads us to Cooper. No matter what your take on how much he contributed to the Bills in 2024, it’s hard to argue that he is the most accomplished WR the Bills have had outside of Diggs in a decade. He might not be a top 10 WR anymore, but he is definitely good enough to be a #1. This is what we all thought we needed post Diggs. But the Bills deploy his on less than 50% of snaps (he was 4th we most weeks) and he has games with ZERO targets. Only one game with double digit targets and he had a terrible conversion rate in it (6/14). Whether he helped or not is debatable, but what isn’t is he did not produce like a #1 wr…or even a #2. So, you can read all of that and say “Mike, those guys are all scrubs or old or whatever” and what we really need is a star in his prime or a top draft pick or just a really fast guy. It was the players that were the problem. I think you want to believe that because the alternative is harder to accept: The Bills like their offense this way. Sure, they don’t mind having a guy who can get deep outside, but they also see it as inefficient and high risk, so they aren’t going to invest a lot there. I think they like running the ball and throwing short and over the middle. It derisks the offense AND they still scored a ton of points. All that really suffered last year were stats. WR stats. Outside WR stats. Basically, the Bills have what they want…game manager Josh Allen. I don’t think they WANT to build an offense around assets that increase risk. -
Who’s your defensive surprise of the year?
Chandler#81 replied to Billsfed1's topic in The Stadium Wall
Joe Marino and Chris Trapasso break down our Draft picks. Worth the watch! This COULD be a Super season! -
Higher profit margins at the concession stands with the hot dog of the game?
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You're both going to Hell. 🤨
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Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?
Kirby Jackson replied to Pete's topic in The Stadium Wall
It’s a very fair question. There is no easy answer but it’s probably a little of both. The difference was so extreme that it’s not just coincidence. That may be a part of it but the offense was clearly much better with him. The triangle is a great analogy. The answer is TBD. I was obsessed with those 90’s Bulls teams. IMO, they don’t have a Pippen but have some of the other roles filled around Jordan. The OL is sort of Grant / Rodman doing the dirty work to help make it go. Kincaid to me is like Paxton / Kerr in that he can be a quality role player but rarely take over a game. Cook is a little like Kukoc in that he has a lot of ability but will never be the focus of the team. The receivers kind of remind me of Cartwright/Wennigton/Longley. They are the least talented of the starters but have a role. They’re never taking over a game but if they go out there and have 9 points and 6 rebounds they haven’t been a liability. Those Bulls teams would have won a lot of games because of Jordan. Would they have won all of those championships without Pippen? Shakir is the one sort of exception and he is somewhere between the BJ Armstrong and Paxson / Kerr. He’s the 3rd or 4th scoring option on a good team. Shakir is to the Bills what Jrue Holiday is to the Celtics offensively.