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meh sulking is your word. im not offended by the way he looks on the sidelines

this is fair. it doesn't even really matter who thinks what about the election, my point in this thread was that the crowd was their on their own free will, and stormed the capital. even if someone understands why they did it, it still should never happen. the dems did not arrange this, and the constant framing this into a giant hoax is just avoiding accountability of those men. no hoax, just #######s.

Aside from the topic of Josh's struggles, I think there is something to that. Most of these guys at the skill positions on offense, Palmer, Samuel, Moore specifically have worked under other OCs in the NFL. They know how they have been used successfully. They know what the issue is.

You want sulking Allen like the Bengals game, Texans game, Dolphins game? I draw a line at some point with this stuff. He's this entire team, but to say his demeanor is indictive of a leader in some of these moments is garbage. He knows it as well.

I’d go with Patriots this week, and then Ravens next. Take both those teams at home against the Jets.

He wouldn't be the first athlete to fall apart for a while after getting married. Plus the Bills ecosystem right now is not the greatest. Hope he gets out of it sooner than later.

How could I forget?

I feel if Kim were still in charge, changes would have been made already

So we agree, he may see WR2 type targets. Kincaid is out for the foreseeable future. A week at best but I'd predict two almost certainly with the next game on a Thursday. Palmer is working his way back. Shakir, as you point out Davis doesn't play from the slot. So boundary targets, one could argue Gabe would get the most of considering Josh has worked with him longer than Palmer and Coleman combined. I feel like Josh would have the most trust there

Shavers and Davis on the outside makes the most sense. Palmer can run those deep posts and outside slants. Davis, Shavers, Palmer and Shakir with Keon being strictly red zone. Samuel should be the first to P.S. I have a hard time thinking Moore's gonna be targeted any more than he has been.

If Josh lost faith in Brady, that would be a HUGE problem. And maybe the entire offense has lost faith in Brady and that's why people are noticing the OL and Keon not giving 100% effort.

He's not going to ask for a trade. He's not going to ask for McD to be fired. You can see right thru him with how transparent he is. Winning HERE is what matters to him. I understand that he is a mega star. But that fact is still why he is so special IMO. He's a mega star in a normal person and will never be anything else.

⬆️ Triple Trumpers are upset - the truth keeps surfacing, and they’re angry that others refuse to let it be buried. They just can’t admit they’ve been suckered, again.

i mean hes literally the only guy id want out there when the chips are down lol i dont particularly care about his demeanor. i think it's just a narrative. i care about results and he stacks them up

Teef: I'd be happy to tag you, but I can't. Blame Simon and The King. And not only was the election not stolen, it was the most secure election in US history!!! 😂 I mean how else would you expect an election with the majority of votes counted by unsecured mail in ballot (the first time in US history) with a candidate who campaigned from his basement to turn out? 81 million votes for the victor. An all time record! And the MOST SECURE! 😂

I’m not discounting the possibility of Josh asking for a trade to a west coast team, to be closer to his bride and to end his career where he grew up … imagine Sean McVeigh getting Josh to replace stafford when he retires in a couple years

I take a lot of analysts with a grain of salt. But I pay attention to Kubiak. He's a former Navy QB, NFL backup, and college coach. And he doesn't watch Bills games while simultaneously watching 3 other NFL games. He goes back and watches All-22. He knows what he's talking about.

I mean, I'm not dismissing his situation at all and I called out the team needing to better support him, which is incredibly obvious. But I can't think of any QB's that are former MVP's who look like Allen does when the chips are down. He can still work on the part he has control over because he doesn't control the rest of it.

They won the SB vs the Rams in the 2018 season, went 12-4 and lost a 1st round playoff game to Tenn in 2019, went 8-9 in the Covid year with Cam Newton, went 10-7 and lost a 1st round playoff game to the Bills in 2021, went 8-9 in 2022, 4-13 in 2023, and 4-13 in 2024 Tossing the covid year aside, they've been mucking around at the bottom for 3 seasons (Belichick's final 2 + the Jerod Mayo year).

bro i am being unbiased. im telling you allen's play is not the problem and you are not listening. do i need to pull up his stats this season again

Yeah, I don't do the auto sims, just go through game by game and see what it lays out. Then go back and play around with swing games. I'lll probably do this about 200 times before week 18, I love this thing

Yeah, that loss to Miami really hurts. What a frustrating game - we just didn't show up. NE has us, Miami once & the Jets twice. I have confidence we can beat them in a rematch, but I'm interested to see if they can sweep the other 3 games. Both Miami & NY gave the Pats fits at times even in the Brady years, and this year's NE team isn't really a world beater.