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In what world would a fake tush push pass play that's not a quick hitter ever work? In a short-yardage situation where the "tush push" is likely, the secondary is never actively focused on coming up to support the run. They won't be "deceived" to crash the LOS because they are not part of the initial defensive push. So is Brady ######ed? Why would he think this is a play that would ever work? The thing that infuriates me is that they had to practice at some point during the year and noone on this staff or even a player questioned it? Like really? Wtf **Disclaimer: If the All22 comes out and shows that this was suppose to be a quick hitter pass play that Josh didn't end up throwing, my apologies**

Daboll was right about the offense and McD was wrong. The heavy TE set rushing offense with Allen should be criminal. Beane also talked a lot of ***** about the Whaley cap management, but look at how awful the current roster is with no space. I'd force my way out like Eichel if I'm Allen, the Pegulas are not good owners and it will take more time for action.

Some people have perfectly reasonable points and I respect the opinion about how bad we are and should blow it up etc… even if I don’t agree with it (yet), but some people are so hysterical it’s hilarious to read. Probably the same type of people who were saying when we were 4-0 how they didn’t see any games that we’d lose for the whole season. Has everyone forgotten that we went 7-6 twice in the last few years and then pulled it around to end the season 11-6 both times and end up 13 seconds and a missed throw to Shakir from being in the AFC championship both times? We’re 6-3 and one game behind the patriots, I’m not happy with how we’re playing but the sky hasn’t fallen in yet, the injuries on defence are a killer but I expect a strong reaction next week against the buccs, if we get hammered again (at home) then I’ll start to worry a bit more but not yet

McDermott is a legend. HC for life. Can't do anything wrong. It's always someone else's fault

wasted energy. It’s not happening. Right now the offense is not helping the defense. Thats our issue. Defense is on the field way too much

This isn't crazy, the Bills only consistent receiving threat is an undersized TE that can't stay on the field. When he is gone they can just play the sticks up and beat our offense. It's over guys and gals, they have wasted another year of Allen and with the contracts they have it will be a loss for at least 2-3 more years. Anyone looking at it pragmatically can see it.

*200 rushing yards allowed again *uncharacteristic turnovers *bad decisions on crucial downs How many times are we going to repeat these trends? I realize that this was an almost meaningless game, but in order to be truly great, you have to have the same mentality every single game.

I think you're really underestimating how truly bad this core is. Teams aren't producing with these guys. The announcers are practically laughing at how bad they are at getting open on a weekly basis. This isn't to say the coaching helps. But I don't think there's any amount of "creativity" that's going to make Keon Coleman, Curtis Samuel, Elijah Moore, and Tyrell Shavers get open when they simply can't create separation against even single man coverage.

No I can't take a breath. McBeane has had eight years to figure this out. I've been waiting 52 years for a title. The best QB in franchise history is being wasted. McDermott has taken a Ferrari and turned it into a Prius. This game is just another in a growing line of McDermott disasters. Team was completely unprepared yesterday and came out like it was a casual pick up game on a Saturday with a keg of beer on the sideline.

I've seen enough of the McDermott era. This game was a preview of what will ultimately happen again when it matters most.

I just saw the other thread "This staff doesn’t take every game seriously" after posting. That's kind of an expansion on the idea of, yeah, we are intentionally keeping things simple, directing effort to conservative and basic game planning, managing the load over the season and not giving full effort each week.

I hear you, but I've seen enough offenses produce in this league with the kind of receivers we have. The Bills run the same exact pass routes just with different players in slightly different roles or starting from slightly different positions, again and again, and just hope that the pattern works against the coverage call. The only time I see a creative pass play it seems to be an outgrowth of the run game.

The culture. He came to a perennially loser and now they’re a perennially winner. I’m one of the last people on this board to give McDermott credit but he deserves some for that. Obviously, it is more tied to Josh but McDermott gets some. The public heat was turned way up even before the season. It’s only gotten worse. He’s absolutely not a lock to be back. He MAY be back but this isn’t like years past. He has been crushed publicly since April. What the public was worried about has come to fruition. I think it’s more likely than not that there’s someone else handling the roster this offseason.

Tis coaching

I had 3 in my cart when I posted that on StubHub that were $96 each after fees. They weren’t very good.

You don't see a lack of talent? That's crazy. The insufficient creativity is a direct result of the lack of talent. You think they're throwing a million screens to Shakir bc they aren't "creative"? No. It's because no one is getting open downfield, including Shakir, and they have to do whatever they can to get the ball in his hands. How many games do posters like you have to see of Josh running for his life around for 10+ seconds at a time, dying for someone to come open for a small window somewhere, before you admit we have a talent problem?

What I see here is not just inconsistent player effort or insufficient talent but insufficient coaching capacity for creative game planning. It seems like they can put together a great game plan if they have a really long time to ramp up and focus on an opponent, but they are almost like skipping an entire week or two of opponents with very little opponent specific planning., throwing a generic script together, while either putting in less effort or starting work on a future opponent instead. Is this because there is a bottleneck and only a few people are contributing to or are overly controlling and can't keep up with the higher level game planning? Or if it's just a few, are they incapable in terms of creativity rather than time & effort. Or is it intentional to keep the offense simple throughout the regular season? Or everyone is working together and contributing but they just don't have enough talent in the building? Or is it simply humanly impossible for a finite number of people to do the perfect game plan every single week for 17 weeks in this league, so parity will always bite any team? Same thing with the run game creativity vs. pass game creativity. You can see very clearly that there is more time on task with the run game. Why can't we have an offense that does both well? It's not just the players, it's lack of time on task, scheming and practicing the pass game this year.

Well we have seen McD sit a top pick at corner because he was not getting it together, you have to do what is best for the team. Beane deserves his flowers for the gems he has found in the draft, but he has had a lot of early round whiffs too. I was a bit worried that Elam would transform into a stud somewhere else.... From a recent news article, "Cowboys' decision to trade for Kaiir Elam has backfired spectacularly. A bad player playing poorly every week? Who could've seen this coming? Elam's coverage is a problem in and of itself, but I'm not sure I've seen a cornerback display worse run fits than Elam did against the Broncos. It's baffling he's made it to this point as a football player with how allergic he is to tackling. He finished the game with a 27.4 run-defense grade, per PFF. While the defensive line and linebackers had a brutal day at the office, Elam was also responsible for multiple big runs simply because he took the wrong angle. He doesn't belong on the field, but the Cowboys also didn't have any alternatives."

im a sucker that thought Rex was going to be good for this team because how good he did with the Jets. It didn’t take me long to see how much of a clown that guy actually was after he got here. That dude was like a legit clown clown. I was never a Whaley fan though.

My take is that the players, coaches and fans are completely spoiled and want the playoffs to start already. If you think it's bad at 6-3 just wait as they have a Tampa Bay team that just lost at home to New England. Then on the road to Houston, Pittsburgh then Cincy at home @ NE, @ Cleveland. Then Eagles, Jets at home. If this team continues to play like this they won't even make the playoffs.

Hard Knocks, Chuck Knox, it's all the same to me

Sadly, this is true. He always excelled in the scramble drill

Yes... I would rather have a win over the Chiefs than the Dolphins. Both would be nice, though.

Hey Colin, I enjoyed your post. Are these typos (spellcheck etc) or some new urban expressions? Is a "tub" like a haphazard pass? Is "cheeks" like saying they played like "ass" (a popular expression these days)? Thanks @colin for a chuckle amidst the gloom.

Easy $