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He did not look like that at all to start the season. I think he beat the dogsnot out of himself so badly over the first few weeks in an effort to show leadership in the DB room that it's wrecked his game since then.

Imagine doing the same thing over and over and over and over........and you get the exact same results, but your narcissistic/sociopathic mind believes that you are actually doing things different AND for the better. Now, imagine being surrounded by like-minded people in a position of power and influence who believe they are the smartest ones in the room and are the ones calling the shots that the results are different and gaslighting a whole industry. I imagine it would get extremely mentally exhausting.

3 out of 4 of us still Billieve

Man, you guys can be brutal after losses. It was a short week, we had a lot of injuries, playing the #1 defense in the league on the road, who were fighting for their playoff lives (with the win, their playoff chances are 47%, with a loss last night their playoff chances would have dropped to 22%) and we were still just half of Gabe Davis' foot away from winning it or a Prater XP away from tying it (no matter how brutal it looked at times). Teams always get up a bit extra for us, and for the Texans, this was like a playoff game. I'm not saying there aren't problems and issues with both sides of the ball right now, but... To say this is a sub .500 team (with no talent and bad coaching), without Josh, seems a bit much. First of all, who would be the replacement at QB? You mean if we didn't have Josh and Trubisky was our starter (or a bottom barrel starting QB)? Well, sure, you could say that about any team with a good QB. Any team with a stud QB is going to be worse without said QB. [In the 5 years Reid was in K.C. before Mahomes, they missed the playoffs one year, and lost their first round playoff game 3 of 4 times. Their playoff record was 1-4. And that was with a #1 overall pick at QB---though he never quite lived up to that level]. Now, if you put another good QB (not elite, just above average) on the team, that is a different matter. Are we a sub .500 team no matter who is QB? What if the QB was Mahomes, or Jackson, or Burrow, or Maye, or Hurts, or Herbert, or Mayfield, or Prescott, or Stafford, or Goff, or Alex Smith even...are we still below .500? It is silly to assume that if we didn't have Josh, we would automatically be playing with one of the worst QBs in the league without the team trying to upgrade the position. No coach wins consistently with a bad QB. Also, if we didn't have Josh, the makeup of the team would be different. We wouldn't be paying Josh his huge salary and could use that money elsewhere, we probably wouldn't be drafting as low as we do (I know that was part of your post Guns), their might be more emphasis on getting a stud receiver to help compensate for the worse QB, etc., etc. Over the last 5-1/2 seasons, we are 68-26 (.723% win percentage). We would need to lose 5 more games per season (across 6 seasons) to be below .500 with this staff. If we had one of the worst QBs in the league, sure, we might lose 5 or more extra games per year (most teams/coaches would), but again, if it wasn't Josh, but instead another competent (above average---not even elite) QB, I just don't see us being one of the worst teams in the league. We would still have a top 5 O-line, a top 5 RB room, a top 5-10 TE room. The offense would be called differently, etc. Just seems like a bit of disappointed hyperbole to me to say we would be one of the worst teams in the league without Josh.

He's 29 yrs old and a big horse in good health. His legacy is nowhere near written yet. Whether it's here or somewhere else, I think he'll get what he's earned and be justly remembered as the 1st ballot HOF'er and game-changing QB he's been.

And I was talking about Knox.

I don't know if I'd call him "great" this year. But PFF would.........he is their 9th rated DE/edge in the NFL this season. There are still so many people on TSW who are utterly clueless about football. Benford, on the other hand, has been shite. The light is out in his eyes. He looks like he is just trying to survive the headache. That play where Bishop had to shoe-string tackle Collins last night.......2024 Benford helps tackle that guy. He doesn't want it and when he has to make a tackle he gets up looking like he's just seen a ghost. Scairt.

Cleveland has a very good defense. Could be a repeat performance from last night

@Pittsburgh- WIN vs Cincinnati- LOSS @ NE- LOSS @ Cle- WIN vs Phil- LOSS vs NYJ- WIN

I was once known as a Peter Paster (i experimented once in college.........don't judge me), but never as a Peter Poster.

Yeah agree with a lot here. Plus I think we drafted need instead of bpa a couple years in early rounds and it hurt.

Brotha I love 17 more than most, but a shallow crosser right in front of your face and you choose that......that's rough af. We had one timeout left and only needed 6 yards for a 1st, but he got baited into chucking it towards Palmer heading toward the end zone. The rest of your points are commonly accepted, for good reason.

Idiotic post. You must be referring to someone else here. Clearly not me. By the way, and just so you you are aware, faith views should supersede political party allegiance, if held sincerity.

People talk about "windows" in sports for a few reasons. The main one is retaining talent & maintaining a quality team. But psychology is also a major factor, imo. We certainly feel it as a fanbase. There was even talk preseason about how some of us weren't as "up" for the regular season this year, because no matter what happened & how good we looked, literally nothing mattered if we were going to have an early playoff exit again. It was all about making the Super Bowl - and really, only about that. And we've felt that all season. It's not fun. WE are not having fun. It's a slog. Biding our time for an AFCCG which now looks unlikely. The players have different outlooks. It's their job, and they get paid to show up every week. But it's very obvious that they're not having fun either. There is frustration, impatience, weariness and a general malaise over this team. Even if they "show up" for work - it's the mental edge and joy for the game that can make the difference in the NFL, where there isn't a lot that separates most teams anyway. I hate how tired we look. The only real break in that was the KC game - that reminded me of how we used to be. But KC is such a nemesis, I think the team gets up for that one regardless.

Here’s a good test: Besides Cook do you think fans of other teams would recognize ANY of the Bills on this list? I’m pretty sure the answer would be “absolutely not”.

I just think that Beane needs to shift his philosophy. Start going with size and speed. I can live with that. They are not going to give up on the character aspect. I’d just tell McDermott that it’s not working with the 220 LBs and the 190 pound Nickel that have average athleticism. He needs to start focusing on skill players. If you truly believe Kromer is the guy you believe he is, and he is damn good, then he should be able to develop a couple of cheap offensive lineman and reallocate those resources to getting a WR or two that can actually make a difference in this offense for Allen

Yeah he won't. Not his nature plus he's working a consecutive games played streak.

I’m more in the camp that McDermott is an overall good coach, HIS scheme and philosophy isn’t gonna get us there though. If anything force him to upgrade his OC and DC with their style and philosophy. Sadly, we’ve taken a step back with both coordinators! Brady struggles to adjust, his 4th down play calling is atrocious and frankly, I don’t think he knows how to use Allen. Go get a proven, experienced DC! Enough of this in house BS! I still can’t get over how bad the entire D is in basic tackling!

He has only gotten better at rushing the passer in the NFL? Nothing says getting better than having an unassisted sack once every 18 quarters in the last 26 games! Pay the man! Oops. Unfortunately, oops.

Yes, I am of the position that we cannot get a Lombardi as a WC and therefore anything from getting beaten in a Superbowl (which just means that you're the best loser) to missing a playoff spot is the same thing. You may as well reset and go again. An overhaul is essential.

a great reason to draft WR is that they are expensive

Weather could be a big issue and that Bengal's D is historically bad making the Bills D look like the 1985 Bears. With the game being in Buffalo if it gets into a shoot out it will resemble the Tampa Bay game with the Bills coming out on top.

I can understand frustration but to actively root against making the playoffs is wild. Yes some of the earlier season aspirations are almost out the window but I want them in the mix. 5 days ago Josh had a historic performance and he is capable of a game like that at any given moment. Every defense we face is not gonna be a #1 ranked defense. Winning in the NFL is difficult. There's 6 games left. They could easily get into a groove in that timeframe and walk into the playoffs with all the momentum on their side.

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it's that it is true for every team, i mean it is true, but the point here is that we only lose when we turn the ball over. we only lose to lesser teams when we are on the road and turn the ball over. there is a thin margin between good and bad teams in the nfl, and we have 17 and the oline and 4 and so on. maybe we lose a game here or there, it's inevitable, but even with the terrible run d, and the injuries and the sacks and all of that, if we ran the ball more and more smartly and were less predictable based on formation and passed more to tes and rbs (lower risk, less turnovers) we have 10 ways to beat all the teams who beat us. basically, even with the holes we have, if we just correct the process on the road and do a few things to turn the ball over less (which we did last season, when our roster was objectively worse than this year imo) then we are in like flynn