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The torch has been passed and the sooner that's recognized, the sooner we can stop doing the same thing over and over hoping for a better outcome.

No!

The Bills started 3 drives from inside their own 10 yard line. This was a direct result of great Texan punting, Bills ST penalties and the famous McD bend but don't break D. The O was not the reason for the poor field position. The D turned it around AFTER giving up 20 points in the first half. And this was despite the fact that the D was going against a very bad offense with a backup QB. Meanwhile the Bills offense was going up against one of the best defenses in the NFL. The Bills have a BAD defense that was riddled with injuries. The Bills also have an average offense that was hampered by injuries. The only time the Bills offense is great is when Allen is playing at his best. And no human being can be at his best each and every game. Your post is a great example of a Bills fan nibbling around the edge of the problem. Sure in this specific game had the Bills O punched it in at the end they steal a win. But the problem is not the failure of the offense to execute at the very end. The problem is how the roster is structured and the basic design of the offense. It's as if the Bills brain trust has created an offensive concept that might be suitable for an average, limited QB and are trying to impose it on their uniquely talented once in a generation QB. Its football madness.

Optimistic take

Well let's look at this. Pitt- LOSS. We play bad against teams with Bad QB okay (who knows who the QB will be here) Bangles- LOSS. We play bad against them NE- LOSS. We play bad against any team Diggs is on. Cleveland- Back to the bad QB thing again and then add that we play bad against good defenses. Philly- LOSS- Great defense Jets- LOSS- I'll blame this one on the alternate uniforms.

Well given the state of our nation, it's either Obama, Hillary, or Trump😆

Shakir has played up to his contract.

McD is the root cause of all of this teams issues. Beane is a henchman to McDummy. Frankly they both need to go. Fire McD & Beane TODAY, fire Brady, demote Babich back to the secondary (or fire him outright), bring in Daboll as interim HC/OC (but do a REAL coaching search in the off-season and don't just hand the job to Daboll). Also bring in Frasier as DC and see if the shakeup can save this season. Standing pat is just going to end in the same disappointment, if not a major injury to Josh as Brady gets him killed with his brutal playcalls.

Indeed... regardless of results... I struggle with how a Billionaire has such a lack of results orientation... I am all for giving Josh more authority at the lOS as far as personnel and game planning... hard no... he has enough to do being a QB... and if you cant find someone more capable than him in the coaching ranks you are not trying hard enough. IMO

Was Fredo the GM or the HC?

Yeah more and more often it would seem

Who's the guy that keeps wanting to bring back the retreads??

They are all going to be tough.

Unpopular take because Allen is the best player on the field. But there is something up. Whether its Brady and the talent around him or Allen himself its hard to say...chicken or egg sort of thing. But Allen is doing things he hasnt done for a long time. Taking 18 yard sacks, throwing balls where he cant see, missing easy throws because either his clock is off or his feet are. What I am wondering is if Allen is not putting in the work on non game days. Is he studying the same way he has the past few years that allowed him to recognize and adjust the plays or OL calls? Is his body, while still a beast, not as able to break tackles and out run guys because he has scaled back some of the extra work? We dont know that stuff.

Why is the division out?

This poll feels like the rare time that there’s a “right” answer. It’s Beane. The roster isn’t good enough. If we are looking at “why did they lose ____ game” you can pick someone else. If we are looking at, “why is the Bills season going this way” it is Beane. There isn’t enough talent.

Do they make a move for Brandin Cooks? Just released by Saints

Maybe just a technicality, but doesn’t the GM and HC report directly to Pegula? In other words, I don’t think a new GM can fire McClappy and the coaching staff. A new GM should have the power to hire and fire coaches….in addition to the player personnel decisions.

What we've had in place just hasn't worked as hoped, no shame in that. Elway won his first SB at 37, so we have a few more opportunities with Allen to try something different, i.e. GM/HC combo, and see if we can get over the hump. New Digs, New GM, New Coach, New Look.... I like it.

Baltimore is not “surging”. They literally played the exact same offensive game, probably worse given Lamar threw a pick six, against Cleveland as we did Houston. Difference is their Defense held Cleveland to 9 points. And as bad as our Defense can be.. I actually think they’d have done the same to Shadeur Sanders in that game. We view Baltimore differently because of what they are perceived to be and the fact their division is trash. I think they’ll make the Playoffs, but they aren’t exactly playing great right now. Maybe that changes if Lamar can get healthy. Or maybe he reinjures himself. They are 5-5 and have Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Packers, Steelers. That Thanksgiving game against CIN will likely be Burrow playing with a ton of juice after beating NE or their last gasp to stay alive. If they didn’t only have the Steelers to worry about, we wouldn’t view them as a shoe-in for the playoffs.

Hire Daboll. Trade Oliver for a two, cut Knox and bunch of others. Rehire the last strength coach. sign Pickens, 1st round wr, second round safety, second round wr, third round Taron replacement.

Anything can happen once you get in. Let's hope they go through December on fire and take some momentum into the playoffs

It's Beane and it's not even close. He assembled a mediocre roster, gave our franchise QB little to no help and has ruined our salary cap flexibility with bloated contracts for mediocre players.

And essentially getting a clean get off because we continue to hike the ball at 1 on the play clock. When the edges are just jumping the count you have to switch it up. This is a freaking basic concept but Brady will not adjust.