Jason Peters watch

[Thurman#1]

... without tying-up 10% of their salary cap.

 

 

The Bills' actual money spent ("cash to cap") this year is around $100M. Let's see, 10 divided by 100 is...yep, 10%! Tying up 1/10th of the money spent on 1 player, especially a player who will put forth a weak effort when he feels he's not getting paid enough, is foolish.

 

Now you're changing horses in mid-stream. You said "of the salary cap." Now you're saying "money spent." Which is it?

 

And you say that "The Bills' actual money spent ("cash to cap") this year is around $100M." Rather than accepting your figure of $100 million, I did some research, and it turns out you're wrong.

 

"The Bills have about $11 million in space under the cap after their recent roster cutdown, according to News figures.

 

"That may sound like a lot, but it isn't. The Bills probably will wind up spending close to the cap limit, as they usually do. That $11 million gives the Bills enough room to sign a player or maybe two to a contract extension, if they choose to do so."

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/452/story/789046.html

 

The Bills don't routinely underspend the cap by $25 million. That's an urban Bills fan myth. They cut a bit off of that by cutting Walker, but not that much.

 

Anyway, you specifically said ".. without tying-up 10% of their salary cap." Very dramatic. Not true.

[C.Biscuit97]

Peters is having a sensational year, and earning that salary. That is the bottom line.

 

 

He's played in 4 games and a quarter. He's also played Carolina, TB, KC, and the Raiders.

 

I don't if there is a Mrs. Peters but there's no possible way she fellates him as much as you do.

[Doc]

I'm sure there were a few loons. There always are. But the huge majority of Eagles nation simply didn't have a problem with it. In fact, they thought it showed commitment that in spite of an injury he was willing to play if he had to.

 

Where is the massive outcry? There simply is none, except among the haters here in Buffalo.

The part you quoted was actually in reference to his PC after being traded to the Eagles. As for the lack of outcry after the Raiders game, maybe they realized that whether Peters was in there or not made no difference?

[Doc]

Now you're changing horses in mid-stream. You said "of the salary cap." Now you're saying "money spent." Which is it?

 

And you say that "The Bills' actual money spent ("cash to cap") this year is around $100M." Rather than accepting your figure of $100 million, I did some research, and it turns out you're wrong.

 

"The Bills have about $11 million in space under the cap after their recent roster cutdown, according to News figures.

 

"That may sound like a lot, but it isn't. The Bills probably will wind up spending close to the cap limit, as they usually do. That $11 million gives the Bills enough room to sign a player or maybe two to a contract extension, if they choose to do so."

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/452/story/789046.html

 

The Bills don't routinely underspend the cap by $25 million. That's an urban Bills fan myth. They cut a bit off of that by cutting Walker, but not that much.

 

Anyway, you specifically said ".. without tying-up 10% of their salary cap." Very dramatic. Not true.

I get my numbers from a guy named "Clumping Platelets," who is an amateur capologist on another website. According to him, the Bills have spent a shade under $102M this year. But looking at the numbers again, yes you're right that it's not 10%. It's 9.8%. My bad.

 

And I'm sorry if by "the Bills' salary cap" I didn't make it clear that I meant the money they actually spent. Because they've been doing "cash to cap" for years, and will be for the foreseeable future.

[Malazan]

You guys are insane. Jason Peters was already kind enough to let the Bills give him a raise before his contract expired once. Then he gave them another opportunity and didn't say one word about it. Literally, not one peep. Then after he was kind enough to come in after the Bills had played two games, one of which they barely won to reach 2-0 because he missed playing football so much and had nothing to do with a weakening bargaining position.

 

Then he gave them another chance and even increased his weight without losing the flexibility that comes with increased muscle mass. There are very few players who are playing in the NFL willing to add fat to their build in the offseason considering the problems it causes with health. Especially after they had previously experienced injuries. Peters was more than willing to do so.

 

Even after committing himself to the organization after he chose to come here as a free agent, they didn't void his contract and give him a raise. that's right a FREE agent. He wasn't forced here like all those people taken in the draft, he chose to do so when he had his pick of organizations offering him less money.

 

Now you guys do nothing, but bash him. He's on a team that appreciates leadership and knows where to spend its money. The Eagles defense obviously had never won them a Superbowl so brought in Jason to be the team leader they needed after Dawkins failed year after year. You expect the general to be on the front lines? That's silly, he can't be effective there so he stays behind the lines just like Peters stays on the sideline just like Michael Vick.

 

If you need more proof that the Eagles make the right choices, it's in their record. The bills have been 7-9 the past two years. They have been severely outclassed by the Eagles 8-8 and 9-6-1 records in both of those years. That's three entire wins better than the Bills. You can't argue with those kind of results.

[The Senator]

You guys are insane. Jason Peters was already kind enough to let the Bills give him a raise before his contract expired once. Then he gave them another opportunity and didn't say one word about it. Literally, not one peep. Then after he was kind enough to come in after the Bills had played two games, one of which they barely won to reach 2-0 because he missed playing football so much and had nothing to do with a weakening bargaining position.

 

Then he gave them another chance and even increased his weight without losing the flexibility that comes with increased muscle mass. There are very few players who are playing in the NFL willing to add fat to their build in the offseason considering the problems it causes with health. Especially after they had previously experienced injuries. Peters was more than willing to do so.

 

Even after committing himself to the organization after he chose to come here as a free agent, they didn't void his contract and give him a raise. that's right a FREE agent. He wasn't forced here like all those people taken in the draft, he chose to do so when he had his pick of organizations offering him less money.

 

Now you guys do nothing, but bash him. He's on a team that appreciates leadership and knows where to spend its money. The Eagles defense obviously had never won them a Superbowl so brought in Jason to be the team leader they needed after Dawkins failed year after year. You expect the general to be on the front lines? That's silly, he can't be effective there so he stays behind the lines just like Peters stays on the sideline just like Michael Vick.

 

If you need more proof that the Eagles make the right choices, it's in their record. The bills have been 7-9 the past two years. They have been severely outclassed by the Eagles 8-8 and 9-6-1 records in both of those years. That's three entire wins better than the Bills. You can't argue with those kind of results.

Well said, Jeremy - I'm not sure I could have captured the true essence of the man any better than you just did, with only one addition - you neglected to mention Peters' selfless attitude toward his teammates. Who else would have quietly sat out the first two and last two starts last season to allow Langston Walker an opportunity to play left tackle?

 

Being the consummate teammate Peters is, I'll bet Jason even takes himself out of Monday nite's game against the Redskins, just to give King Dunlap a chance to redeem himself for his performance against the Raiders...but I'm sure he will also be more than willing to go back in the game and play - if he has to!

[BILLZ4LIFE]

LETS GO FITZY!!!!!!!

[Bill from NYC]

Speaking of which, Dockery was the only player with whom Peters kept in-touch while he was holding-out. Perhaps both decided to mail-in the season in an attempt to get out of Buffalo? Seems plausible, although I don't know how Dockery is looking in Washington.

 

Plausible yes and despicable if true. Worse for Dockery imo. Doc, my shirt was dirtier after watching a game last year than was Dockerys jersey. I key on these players as much as TV will allow, and I am stating point blank that he put forth little effort. Levitre is playing better as a rookie, normal growing pains notwithstanding.

I can't help thinking that Peters would look good next to that interior 3, although I do know that we drafted Wood with the pick acquired for him. The bottom line is that we totally need Ots, DTs, and LBs. If we get them, we will be a good footnball team before long. If not we will continue to flounder.

[Doc]

Plausible yes and despicable if true. Worse for Dockery imo. Doc, my shirt was dirtier after watching a game last year than was Dockerys jersey. I key on these players as much as TV will allow, and I am stating point blank that he put forth little effort. Levitre is playing better as a rookie, normal growing pains notwithstanding.

I can't help thinking that Peters would look good next to that interior 3, although I do know that we drafted Wood with the pick acquired for him. The bottom line is that we totally need Ots, DTs, and LBs. If we get them, we will be a good footnball team before long. If not we will continue to flounder.

I like the future of the O-line. I think Bell bears closer watching. But the Bills need a good QB first and foremost.

 

As for LB's, I think they should he starting Harris and Maybin (and getting Ellis activated). At DT, it's what you see is what you get. The only guy I could have seen them taking was Ron Brace over Byrd (as you mentioned). But Brace has been inactive for the Pats the past 3 games while Byrd has played well so I don't know. I think DT is high on the list next year and I pray they give Harris and Palmer plenty of playing time this year to see what they have in them.

[The Senator]

Plausible yes and despicable if true. Worse for Dockery imo. Doc, my shirt was dirtier after watching a game last year than was Dockerys jersey. I key on these players as much as TV will allow, and I am stating point blank that he put forth little effort. Levitre is playing better as a rookie, normal growing pains notwithstanding.

I can't help thinking that Peters would look good next to that interior 3, although I do know that we drafted Wood with the pick acquired for him. The bottom line is that we totally need Ots, DTs, and LBs. If we get them, we will be a good footnball team before long. If not we will continue to flounder.

 

flounder, anyone???

[K-9]

You guys are insane. Jason Peters was already kind enough to let the Bills give him a raise before his contract expired once. Then he gave them another opportunity and didn't say one word about it. Literally, not one peep. Then after he was kind enough to come in after the Bills had played two games, one of which they barely won to reach 2-0 because he missed playing football so much and had nothing to do with a weakening bargaining position.

 

Then he gave them another chance and even increased his weight without losing the flexibility that comes with increased muscle mass. There are very few players who are playing in the NFL willing to add fat to their build in the offseason considering the problems it causes with health. Especially after they had previously experienced injuries. Peters was more than willing to do so.

 

Even after committing himself to the organization after he chose to come here as a free agent, they didn't void his contract and give him a raise. that's right a FREE agent. He wasn't forced here like all those people taken in the draft, he chose to do so when he had his pick of organizations offering him less money.

 

Now you guys do nothing, but bash him. He's on a team that appreciates leadership and knows where to spend its money. The Eagles defense obviously had never won them a Superbowl so brought in Jason to be the team leader they needed after Dawkins failed year after year. You expect the general to be on the front lines? That's silly, he can't be effective there so he stays behind the lines just like Peters stays on the sideline just like Michael Vick.

 

If you need more proof that the Eagles make the right choices, it's in their record. The bills have been 7-9 the past two years. They have been severely outclassed by the Eagles 8-8 and 9-6-1 records in both of those years. That's three entire wins better than the Bills. You can't argue with those kind of results.

 

Outstanding! LMAO! You just can't get this comedy at home.

 

Oh wait, I AM at home.

 

Anyway, thanks for the chuckle, Jeremy.

 

GO BILLS!!!

[Thurman#1]

 

He's played in 4 games and a quarter. He's also played Carolina, TB, KC, and the Raiders.

 

I don't if there is a Mrs. Peters but there's no possible way she fellates him as much as you do.

 

 

Again with the homosexual stuff. What is it about me that brings out this kind of stuff in you haters? Again, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but first, I like girls and second, I'm married. Just go to google and I'm sure if you put in the right search terms to cover your interests you will find a lot of guys interested in giving men fellatio. And good luck to you.

 

As for the football part of your thread, what do you want the guy to do, run across town and play in games for other teams? He has played extremely well in the games the league scheduled for him.

 

He played so well against Julius Peppers that they finally switched Peppers to the other side to try to get some use out of him. And Peppers got a sack after he was facing the RT instead of Peters.

[Thurman#1]

If you call STANDING on the sideline while your team LOSES playing sensationally, then yeah Peters is playing sensationally.

 

 

 

Still waiting for your reply to post 88 on P. 5, where I prove that I never said what you (again and again) said I did.

 

Or are you going to run away again?

[mob16151]

I dunno just read the whole thread..........and wondered when this became the Eagles forum. But on a serious note this is a team that isn't going to make the playoffs. They weren.t gonna make the playoffs with Peters here either. So yea it sucks from a overall talent stand point that he left. But on the brightside at least we got decent recompensation for him. And we get to see if we have anything in Bell. And now I'm never commenting in this particular thread again.

[Thurman#1]

I guess the best we can say to each other is "we'll see how this plays out eventually." But Peters living up to that $10M/year deal is going to be awfully tough for him, given his past history.

 

 

 

You're dead on there. We'll have to see how it plays out.

 

But you then said "But Peters living up to that $10M/year deal is going to be awfully tough for him, given his past history." On the contrary. If he only plays as well as he has, that contract will look brilliant for Philly. If he improves, so much the better.

 

Peters played sensationally in Buffalo every time he came to training camp. That's his history. Now he's got a fair contract and he's motivated, so I see him coming to camp every year. That would be a very good thing for Philly. Peters missed four games in five years in Buffalo. If he only continues at that rate, Philly will prove to have made a sensational deal.

[Thurman#1]

The part you quoted was actually in reference to his PC after being traded to the Eagles. As for the lack of outcry after the Raiders game, maybe they realized that whether Peters was in there or not made no difference?

 

 

Sorry, what quote are you talking about? There was no quotation in the post you replied to.

 

And jeez, you are cracking me up here with that last sentence. Not one page ago you were saying that Peters being out made the Eagles lose. Now you're saying it made no difference. Before that you said he wouldn't have made any difference if he were here in Buffalo.

 

Could you do me a favor and decide what you want to say? Maybe we will agree. Does Peters make a difference or not?

[Thurman#1]

I get my numbers from a guy named "Clumping Platelets," who is an amateur capologist on another website. According to him, the Bills have spent a shade under $102M this year. But looking at the numbers again, yes you're right that it's not 10%. It's 9.8%. My bad.

 

And I'm sorry if by "the Bills' salary cap" I didn't make it clear that I meant the money they actually spent. Because they've been doing "cash to cap" for years, and will be for the foreseeable future.

 

 

 

I think I've heard of Clumping Platelets in my travels, but I can't remember specifically.

 

Well, as I showed in my link, I get my numbers from the Buffalo News. I trust them more, frankly.

 

And after the season started, the Bills signed McGee to an extension, so they are now spending more than the News said they were.

 

And again, you said "10% of the cap." You keep trying to forget that, but it's what you said. The cap is $128 million, and that would put Peters at less than 8%.

[Thurman#1]

If you need more proof that the Eagles make the right choices, it's in their record. The bills have been 7-9 the past two years. They have been severely outclassed by the Eagles 8-8 and 9-6-1 records in both of those years. That's three entire wins better than the Bills. You can't argue with those kind of results.

 

 

Excellent point, dude. Check the Eagles record to see if they make the right choices. Thanks for suggesting that.

 

Let's see ... the Eagles made the playoffs this decade in:

 

2007

2005 (made the SB but lost)

2004

2003

2002

2001

and 2000. Seven out of nine years.

 

And during the same period, the Bills made the playoffs in:

 

Hmmmm.

 

There seems to be some kind of failure in google, because I can't find any playoff appearances during the same period for the Bills. Still, I'm sure you're right. There must be some way to use this data to prove that the Eagles make worse choices than the Bills, and I'm sure you will let me know.

[Thurman#1]

I like the future of the O-line. I think Bell bears closer watching. But the Bills need a good QB first and foremost.

 

As for LB's, I think they should he starting Harris and Maybin (and getting Ellis activated). At DT, it's what you see is what you get. The only guy I could have seen them taking was Ron Brace over Byrd (as you mentioned). But Brace has been inactive for the Pats the past 3 games while Byrd has played well so I don't know. I think DT is high on the list next year and I pray they give Harris and Palmer plenty of playing time this year to see what they have in them.

 

 

 

Bell bears close watching all right.

 

I'm rooting for the guy, but he has showed nothing so far.

[Thurman#1]

But the Bills need a good QB first and foremost.

 

As for LB's, I think they should he starting Harris and Maybin (and getting Ellis activated). At DT, it's what you see is what you get. The only guy I could have seen them taking was Ron Brace over Byrd (as you mentioned). But Brace has been inactive for the Pats the past 3 games while Byrd has played well so I don't know. I think DT is high on the list next year and I pray they give Harris and Palmer plenty of playing time this year to see what they have in them.

 

 

This is all reasonable. I personally would put QB and LT as co-number 1s on our needs list, though I still have hopes for both Bell and Trent.

 

After that, DT and LB.

 

And I'm a defense-first guy, so it hurts to put offense first, but our offense is beyond pitiful right now.

[The Senator]

If you call STANDING on the sideline while your team LOSES playing sensationally, then yeah Peters is playing sensationally.

:lol:

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

 

Game, set, match!

 

(Even though they lost to the Raiders, FatBoy looked SENSATIONAL sitting on the bench, and don't forget that he did say he would have gone back in - if he HAD to!!! )

[Doc]

Sorry, what quote are you talking about? There was no quotation in the post you replied to.

 

And jeez, you are cracking me up here with that last sentence. Not one page ago you were saying that Peters being out made the Eagles lose. Now you're saying it made no difference. Before that you said he wouldn't have made any difference if he were here in Buffalo.

 

Could you do me a favor and decide what you want to say? Maybe we will agree. Does Peters make a difference or not?

I said that Peters' presence "probably" would have helped the Eagles win. That's what one would expect from a $10M/year franchise LT, no? What that has to do with others possibly thinking his absence had no effect on the game, and thus not taking him to task for it, is anyone's guess!

 

He would have been better-served not saying he COULD have gone back into the game, just like he would have been better-served not talking about how his contract situation affected his play last year.

 

I think I've heard of Clumping Platelets in my travels, but I can't remember specifically.

 

Well, as I showed in my link, I get my numbers from the Buffalo News. I trust them more, frankly.

 

And after the season started, the Bills signed McGee to an extension, so they are now spending more than the News said they were.

 

And again, you said "10% of the cap." You keep trying to forget that, but it's what you said. The cap is $128 million, and that would put Peters at less than 8%.

The salary max could be $200M, making Peters' salary a mere 5% in relation. It's immaterial when Ralph is spending $100M on players. I won't belabor this point any further.

[Malazan]

Excellent point, dude. Check the Eagles record to see if they make the right choices. Thanks for suggesting that.

 

Let's see ... the Eagles made the playoffs this decade in:

 

2007

2005 (made the SB but lost)

2004

2003

2002

2001

and 2000. Seven out of nine years.

 

And during the same period, the Bills made the playoffs in:

 

Hmmmm.

 

There seems to be some kind of failure in google, because I can't find any playoff appearances during the same period for the Bills. Still, I'm sure you're right. There must be some way to use this data to prove that the Eagles make worse choices than the Bills, and I'm sure you will let me know.

 

Finally, a brother in arms on my boy, Peters and the quality organization that is the Eagles. They are like the Bills that went to the Superbowl four years in a row and lost, but they went to the NFC championship and lost instead. Everyone knows the NFC is dominant so that game is pretty much the Superbowl anyway. As I understand a minute of commercial time during the NFC championship could pay for Peters to play like five minutes. That is an AWESOME ratio.

 

I mean, look at this:

 

Let's see ... the Eagles made the playoffs this decade in:

 

2007

2005 (made the SB but lost)

2004

2003

2002

2001

and 2000. Seven out of nine years.

 

Andy Reid went to the SUPERBOWL in 2005 with a 6-10 record. He had one win less than Jauron and went to the SUPERBOWL. Jauron has had a 7-9 record for three straight years and didn't make the SUPERBOWL once. Imagine what will happen with a talent like Peters. The Eagles have a 7-9 season virtually locked up which means they should WIN the SUPERBOWL this year.

 

You can't argue with facts like these. Thurman has told us the Eagles made the SUPERBOWL in 2005 with a 6-10 record. You don't think Peters gets them one more win and thus the championship? You are all on crack. I think Thurman and I are the only ones who understand football and being part of a team here.

[The Senator]

Finally, a brother in arms on my boy, Peters and the quality organization that is the Eagles. They are like the Bills that went to the Superbowl four years in a row and lost, but they went to the NFC championship and lost instead. Everyone knows the NFC is dominant so that game is pretty much the Superbowl anyway. As I understand a minute of commercial time during the NFC championship could pay for Peters to play like five minutes. That is an AWESOME ratio.

 

I mean, look at this:

 

Andy Reid went to the SUPERBOWL in 2005 with a 6-10 record. He had one win less than Jauron and went to the SUPERBOWL. Jauron has had a 7-9 record for three straight years and didn't make the SUPERBOWL once. Imagine what will happen with a talent like Peters. The Eagles have a 7-9 season virtually locked up which means they should WIN the SUPERBOWL this year.

 

You can't argue with facts like these. Thurman has told us the Eagles made the SUPERBOWL in 2005 with a 6-10 record. You don't think Peters gets them one more win and thus the championship? You are all on crack. I think Thurman and I are the only ones who understand football and being part of a team here.

 

 

Injury Report - Washington Redskins vs Philadelphia Eagles: Jason Peters, Questionable (Knee/Ankle)

 

 

(Might as well throw in a quad, a groin, and a brain-sprain as well.)

[Beerball]

Finally, a brother in arms on my boy

oh my

[Gotta Dream]

Ok, I wish this thread would die, but I can't let it after seeing JP give a lazy, weak effort and allowing McNabb to be blindsided.

[Simon]

 

Injury Report - Washington Redskins vs Philadelphia Eagles: Jason Peters, Questionable (Knee/Ankle)

 

 

(Might as well throw in a quad, a groin, and a brain-sprain as well.)

 

You forgot distended abdomen....

[The Senator]

Ok, I wish this thread would die, but I can't let it after seeing JP give a lazy, weak effort and allowing McNabb to be blindsided.

You want protection, you gotta pay extra.

[buffaloboyinATL]

Ok, I wish this thread would die, but I can't let it after seeing JP give a lazy, weak effort and allowing McNabb to be blindsided.

It's almost embarassing to hear him described as a "pro bowl" left tackle as he falls to the ground on a weak cut block, misses the block and almost gets his QB killed.

[HurlyBurly51]

Focus on what Peters does on every snap tonight, compare and contrast it to what Bell did yesterday, and I just don't see a huge difference. Certainly not a $10M difference.

[Malazan]

Focus on what Peters does on every snap tonight, compare and contrast it to what Bell did yesterday, and I just don't see a huge difference. Certainly not a $10M difference.

 

It seems sanity may never return to this board. Bell has been given every advantage in starting and given way too much slack for not playing up to the MASSIVE legacy left behind by Jason Peters. Do you guys remember when Peters came into the league? He was the best left tackle playing even though he was a tight end.

 

This was even having to suffer the oppressive coaching of Jim McNally. Everyone knows he was a pretty poor coach. That guy doesn't even have a job coaching anymore. It's pretty obvious that Jason Peters was thrust into the fire and had to learn on the go as backup for 2004, 2005 and then just thrust in at right tackle replacing Mike Williams before being moved to left tackle. Has any player had to face that kind of adversity before? Years as a backup and then just BAM, a starter after only years.

 

Bell has been named the starter since game 1! They have both been starters since game 1 this season so it's a pretty accurate comparison. Also, Bell has two QBs competing for the job who need to play well. It's not like he's dealing with an entrenched probowl starter who has proven he shouldn't be starting in the NFL.

 

On top of all that, Jason Peters only got 10 million and is expected to be the BIG addition to the Eagles offensive line. Bell has TWO FIRST ROUND draft picks on the line with him. Peters doesn't have the advantage of having that kind of drafted talent to play with and let's not even talk about Meredith on the other side. The situation favors Bell is every conceivable way.

[C.Biscuit97]

Cue Thurman to say it was Dockery, Trent, or Lynch's fault.

 

I've never seen an "elite" Lt get beat for sacks as much as Peters does.

[HurlyBurly51]

It seems sanity may never return to this board. Bell has been given every advantage in starting and given way too much slack for not playing up to the MASSIVE legacy left behind by Jason Peters. Do you guys remember when Peters came into the league? He was the best left tackle playing even though he was a tight end.

 

This was even having to suffer the oppressive coaching of Jim McNally. Everyone knows he was a pretty poor coach. That guy doesn't even have a job coaching anymore. Really? McNally was one of the most respected OL coaches in the league. And he decided to retire. It's pretty obvious that Jason Peters was thrust into the fire and had to learn on the go as backup for 2004, 2005 and then just thrust in at right tackle replacing Mike Williams before being moved to left tackle. Has any player had to face that kind of adversity before? Years as a backup and then just BAM, a starter after only years.

 

Bell has been named the starter since game 1! After learning from the sidelines his 1st year. Developed just like JP. They have both been starters since game 1 this season so it's a pretty accurate comparison. Accurate in what sense? Peters has years of starting experience, Bell has 6 games under his belt. Also, Bell has two QBs competing for the job who need to play well. It's not like he's dealing with an entrenched probowl starter who has proven he shouldn't be starting in the NFL. Shouldn't that favor Peters, who plays behind a more experienced and mobile QB?

 

On top of all that, Jason Peters only got 10 million and is expected to be the BIG addition to the Eagles offensive line. Bell has TWO FIRST ROUND draft picks on the line with him. Peters doesn't have the advantage of having that kind of drafted talent to play with and let's not even talk about Meredith on the other side. The situation favors Bell is every conceivable way. Theres' one 1st rounder - Wood.

 

I'm not sure if this was sarcastic or not, but watching Bell snap for snap compared to Peters snap for snap this week, I don't see a big difference in their level of play. And Bell has only 6 starts and will get much better, while Peters has proven he will quit on you at some point.

[C.Biscuit97]

I'm pretty sure his post was filled with insane amounts of sarcasm.

[No QB - No Bueno]

He's gawwwwwwwwwwwwn. Oh What. What went wrong?

[Mantis Toboggan M.D]

Andy Reid went to the SUPERBOWL in 2005 with a 6-10 record. He had one win less than Jauron and went to the SUPERBOWL. Jauron has had a 7-9 record for three straight years and didn't make the SUPERBOWL once. Imagine what will happen with a talent like Peters. The Eagles have a 7-9 season virtually locked up which means they should WIN the SUPERBOWL this year.

 

You can't argue with facts like these. Thurman has told us the Eagles made the SUPERBOWL in 2005 with a 6-10 record. You don't think Peters gets them one more win and thus the championship? You are all on crack. I think Thurman and I are the only ones who understand football and being part of a team here.

 

Are these two paragraphs serious? There is so much sarcasm going off on this board that I can't tell whats real anymore.

 

The Eagles went 6-10 and missed the playoffs in 2005. Commonly known as the Superbowl Curse. They made the Superbowl on a 13-3 record with no Terrell Owens and McNabb controversy. 2006 was the year Terrell Owens blew up on McNabb for being out of shape during the Superbowl.

 

I'm assuming the poster who wrote 05 meant the 2004 to 2005 season. The only way Andy Reid could EVER pull off a 6-10 Superbowl season is if he played Madden and controlled the Eagles Redskins Cowboys and Giants.

[The Senator]

It's almost embarassing to hear him described as a "pro bowl" left tackle as he falls to the ground on a weak cut block, misses the block and almost gets his QB killed.

Yeah, methinks FatBoy lost more than a few ProBowl votes last nite...

 

 

Why are 300-pound dudes diving at other people's knees? I hope Juan Castillo gives his offensive line a nice talking-to about the lame attempts to upend the Redskins defensive linemen. For Jason Peters to do that (and surrender a vicious sack) is pretty unacceptable. For Herremans to do it against Haynesworth was really just an act of desperation, but still. This doesn't look like an Eagles offensive line right now. Not the brand to which we've become accustomed.

 

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[Malazan]

Are these two paragraphs serious? There is so much sarcasm going off on this board that I can't tell whats real anymore.

 

The Eagles went 6-10 and missed the playoffs in 2005. Commonly known as the Superbowl Curse. They made the Superbowl on a 13-3 record with no Terrell Owens and McNabb controversy. 2006 was the year Terrell Owens blew up on McNabb for being out of shape during the Superbowl.

 

I'm assuming the poster who wrote 05 meant the 2004 to 2005 season. The only way Andy Reid could EVER pull off a 6-10 Superbowl season is if he played Madden and controlled the Eagles Redskins Cowboys and Giants.

 

Stop trying to distort the facts. Thurman has provided many, many links to back up all of his assertions. He says they made it in 2005 and you say 2004. Who's word do you think I'm going to believe? Another frothing at the moth Peters basher or Thurman #1. You can't just say things without providing links from at least 47 different reputable sites to back it up or it's just hearsay.

 

Look at Madden, the ranking clearly indicate that Jason Peters would have been the best Offensive lineman on the Bills. His throwing stats are way above the other lineman. So he would have solved our QB problem too.

 

If you lunatics had been watching any Eagles game, you can see Peters is about to blow up on McNabb too. The guy is not running towards the right side enough and making Peters job much more difficult. So McNabb's lack of conditioning is responsible for all those pressures in their last game. He doesn't work as hard on his physique as Peters does and it shows.

 

So stop making up stuff like the Eagles being in the Superbowl in 2004 when there are absolutely NO sites out there that will back you up.

[nucci]

Stop trying to distort the facts. Thurman has provided many, many links to back up all of his assertions. He says they made it in 2005 and you say 2004. Who's word do you think I'm going to believe? Another frothing at the moth Peters basher or Thurman #1. You can't just say things without providing links from at least 47 different reputable sites to back it up or it's just hearsay.

 

Look at Madden, the ranking clearly indicate that Jason Peters would have been the best Offensive lineman on the Bills. His throwing stats are way above the other lineman. So he would have solved our QB problem too.

 

If you lunatics had been watching any Eagles game, you can see Peters is about to blow up on McNabb too. The guy is not running towards the right side enough and making Peters job much more difficult. So McNabb's lack of conditioning is responsible for all those pressures in their last game. He doesn't work as hard on his physique as Peters does and it shows.

 

So stop making up stuff like the Eagles being in the Superbowl in 2004 when there are absolutely NO sites out there that will back you up.

Wow...really?

[Thurman#1]

He would have been better-served not saying he COULD have gone back into the game, just like he would have been better-served not talking about how his contract situation affected his play last year.

 

 

Yeah, you're probably right in both cases. But again, the only ones who were upset about the quote about going back in were the 10 or so guys on the Bills boards who would attack him as idiotic if he said the Lord's prayer. In Philly, nobody cared about that at all. It's a non-issue.

 

 

 

The salary max could be $200M, making Peters' salary a mere 5% in relation. It's immaterial when Ralph is spending $100M on players. I won't belabor this point any further.

 

 

The "salary max"? Could be $200M? No wonder you won't belabor this point any further. You didn't say anything about a "salary max." You said the Bills saved 10% on the salary CAP. Which is $138 million, not $200 million or $100 million.

 

I wouldn't belabor it any further either if I were you.