jreed82 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bills | Interested in acquiring Waters Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800 Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for Kansas City Chiefs OG Brian Waters, according to source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobuffalo Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bills | Interested in acquiring WatersSun, 01 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800 Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for Kansas City Chiefs OG Brian Waters, according to source. he was a pro bowler last year i would be good with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Who is Waters? is he any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Waters is a short, thickly-built nine-year veteran who has good natural strength and above-average athleticism. He has been one of the most consistent players on the Chiefs' offensive line over the past six seasons. He is a good combination of power and athletic ability. He has good initial quickness to engage defenders and gain leverage. He can get on the edge when pulling and is effective to searchlight defenders on the second level. He is a good knee-bender who works with good balance and short-area agility. He has good hand use and initial pop to jolt his opponent. He is an instinctive player who reacts well to stunts and twists and is rarely out of position. Waters works with a good natural power base and works his feet well to finish blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOnDan Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 if it doesn't require a huge extention DO IT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huuuge Bills Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 He is 32 years old, so I would assume the compensation would be pretty low. (4th round pick?) I'd take him as a player for the next 3-4 years. I would love to draft a late rounder to groom behind him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Any news on who (or what picks) we would give up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I found this article on him. He wants out of KC. http://arrowheadaddict.com/2009/02/27/trou...uard-wants-out/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Waters is a short, thickly-built nine-year veteran who has good natural strength and above-average athleticism. He has been one of the most consistent players on the Chiefs' offensive line over the past six seasons. He is a good combination of power and athletic ability. He has good initial quickness to engage defenders and gain leverage. He can get on the edge when pulling and is effective to searchlight defenders on the second level. He is a good knee-bender who works with good balance and short-area agility. He has good hand use and initial pop to jolt his opponent. He is an instinctive player who reacts well to stunts and twists and is rarely out of position. Waters works with a good natural power base and works his feet well to finish blocks. Scouts INC grades him at 75 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jreed82 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 A move like this tells me the Bills think they are a playoff team next year. You don't bring a guy like this in if you are just trying to appease fans. Most fans won't get excited about this possible move but this would be a huge upgrade over Dockery. Hope we get it done! Tell him to bring his buddy Tony with him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1057650.html I would love to have Waters. I wonder what the compensation for him would be. I would think a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The Chiefs don't want to give him up, nor do they have to because he's under contract. Was this the Bills' contingency plan after cutting Dockery? Wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 That would be a great pick-up. He also signed a 7 year deal in 2005, so we would have him for three years without a huge contract. It would help Hangartner and Peters and make our left side pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Come on Buffalo!! Make this happen! Anyone know what's his contract looking like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Maybe something like a 2nd rounder next year if he makes the Pro Bowl, if not a 3rd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 It makes the dumping of Dockery a non-issue, IMO. Do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdBlueNorth Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Bills | Interested in acquiring WatersSun, 01 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800 Pat Moran, of Scout.com, reports the Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for Kansas City Chiefs OG Brian Waters, according to source. Get er done OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 KC lost some Draft picks to NE so maybe they will bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 http://buf.scout.com/2/843380.html This thing may have legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo1983 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 KC lost some Draft picks to NE so maybe they will bite. Very true! They can use a 4th or so... Why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 If we are able to add a Pro Bowl OG and have upgraded at Center, along with getting a backup QB, I'll feel much better about our offseason. If can add a WR or OLB as well, I actually will have changed my mind about the FO this off-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huuuge Bills Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Come on Buffalo!! Make this happen! Anyone know what's his contract looking like? Looks pretty good. I would gladly pay him 3.6 for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 They claim that it'll take a deal "similiar to Stroud's" last year. If a 3rd and 5th is what it takes, send em' away tonight and get him in here tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Pat Moran? We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Come on Buffalo!! Make this happen! Anyone know what's his contract looking like? Cheap by today's standards. He would cost about 10.5 million for three years (3.6 this year, 2.9 next, and 3.9 in 2011). Unless there was an extra bonus in there not listed. But this is usually pretty accurate info. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=1371 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Having lost a 2nd rounder for Cassel, i think KC might be willing to trade him. However, we would need to give him a new deal. All in all, i could see this happening since he is so discontent in KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Pat Moran? We'll see. Lately he's been fairly decent. Before he was often way off in his info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 If Waters is that good of a player why would Pioli trade him and trade him to us of all teams? I don't think that we should do anything with the Chiefs, I'm still miserable about Bledsoe. On a side note. Waters is upset because Pioli wouldn't meet with him on a one-to-one meeeting. DT Shaun Rogers in Cleveland is complaining about the same thing with Mangini. What, is this a Patriot thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 http://buf.scout.com/2/843380.html In the article, it says that we would most likely have to sign him to a new deal. So it would cost most likely pretty big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Looks pretty good. I would gladly pay him 3.6 for this year. He wants a new contract....so I don't think we would be so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Water & Simmonds would complete the OL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Water & Simmonds would complete the OL! Hell yeah. LT- Peters LG- Waters C- Hangartner RG- Simmons (Butler for depth?) RT- Walker Very intriguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Waters is a short, thickly-built nine-year veteran who has good natural strength and above-average athleticism. He has been one of the most consistent players on the Chiefs' offensive line over the past six seasons. He is a good combination of power and athletic ability. He has good initial quickness to engage defenders and gain leverage. He can get on the edge when pulling and is effective to searchlight defenders on the second level. He is a good knee-bender who works with good balance and short-area agility. He has good hand use and initial pop to jolt his opponent. He is an instinctive player who reacts well to stunts and twists and is rarely out of position. Waters works with a good natural power base and works his feet well to finish blocks. nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Rickey Waters? That sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 http://buf.scout.com/2/843380.html In the article, it says that we would most likely have to sign him to a new deal. So it would cost most likely pretty big bucks. We just cleared a lot of salary. GET ER DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Hell yeah. LT- Peters LG- Waters C- Hangartner RG- Simmons (Butler for depth?) RT- Walker Very intriguing If we get waters, I think Simmons is then out of the question. Butler showed promise last year, plus we are paying him millions, I don't think we would invest so much in Hangartner, simmons, Peters, Walker, Butler and then a very expensive contract in Waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The 2 guys I wish they would show some interest is Mike Goff from San Diego and Mark Tauscher from Green Bay. Mike Goff - While the Chargers would probably prefer to keep Goff, the franchise has been effective in drafting and developing linemen and might look for Goff’s replacement at a better price. Goff has been a leader who simply goes about his business and players like running back Ladainian Tomlinson have benefited from his level of play. Goff has played for a quality line for some time and he’s a big part of the equation when it comes to success. Mark Tauscher - Tauscher is a seventh round pick that became a success story. In his first season in the NFL, he was forced into a starting role because of an injury to another player. Tauscher isn’t an elite player, but he is solid in his role as a starter and hadn’t missed a game since 2002 until this season. Tauscher could be at the top of many team’s lists because he could come cheaper than some of the other free agent lineman, but could be nearly or equally effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScott Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I would do it now, he's a good player and a great team leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 If it takes a 2nd, or maybe even a 3rd round pick, along with a new contract, I'd rather pass on Waters and sign someone in free agency that is good and avoid losing the high picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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