Virgil Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm not a JP supporter, I'm a Bills fan. When JP had fumbles or Int's and people defended him, everyone just accused them of making excuses for their boy. Trent, has now given away two straight division games. He is doing exactly what he did last year of having a strong first few games, and then mediocre at best. I'm sorry, but Trent has not proved anything yet. Now, I know there are some "Trent can do no wrong" fans out there. So please, defend the guy who just wasted a 4-1 start to me. Bills from 1-3 in last 4 games. Playoffs?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm not a JP supporter, I'm a Bills fan. When JP had fumbles or Int's and people defended him, everyone just accused them of making excuses for their boy. Trent, has now given away two straight division games. He is doing exactly what he did last year of having a strong first few games, and then mediocre at best. I'm sorry, but Trent has not proved anything yet. Now, I know there are some "Trent can do no wrong" fans out there. So please, defend the guy who just wasted a 4-1 start to me. Bills from 1-3 in last 4 games. Playoffs?!?!?! Trent sucked today. Flat out sucked. For a moment I thought it was JP out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I'm not a JP supporter, I'm a Bills fan. When JP had fumbles or Int's and people defended him, everyone just accused them of making excuses for their boy. Trent, has now given away two straight division games. He is doing exactly what he did last year of having a strong first few games, and then mediocre at best. I'm sorry, but Trent has not proved anything yet. Now, I know there are some "Trent can do no wrong" fans out there. So please, defend the guy who just wasted a 4-1 start to me. Bills from 1-3 in last 4 games. Playoffs?!?!?! I am glad that you are seeing the silver-lining of the Bills' collapse being that you can prove some stupid, inane point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Trent sucked today. Flat out sucked. For a moment I thought it was JP out there. Trent Losman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 No running game, you can blame the QB all you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 I am glad that you are seeing the silver-lining of the Bills' collapse being that you can prove some stupid, inane point. If you think that our starting qb not being good enough is an "inane point", I don't know what a good point would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 If you think that our starting qb not being good enough is an "inane point", I don't know what a good point would be And if he isn't? JP Losman is not going to come in and fix things. So yes, it's stupid. Your point basically is that Trent supporters are somehow hypocrites. Who the hell cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 289, 1 TD, 2 INT I think Trent can defend himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 No running game, you can blame the QB all you want! Yep. With no running game, and crap pass blocking, what did you think would happen?? Ain't Edwards fault. Blame both the O-line for poor run and pass blocking, and the D-line for poor pash rush...again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripnRip Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yep. With no running game, and crap run defense, what did you think would happen?? Ain't Edwards fault. Blame both the O-line for poor run and pass blocking, and the D-line for poor pash rush...again.... I wish the D-line would stop throwing pick-6's in the red zone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Trent sucked today. Flat out sucked. For a moment I thought it was JP out there. No - he didn't. He made a handful of bad plays that cost us 13 points and probably the game. However, there was an awful lot of good in there. The passing game moves very well - even w/o a running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yep. With no running game, and crap run defense, what did you think would happen?? Ain't Edwards fault. Blame both the O-line for poor run and pass blocking, and the D-line for poor pash rush...again.... yet when losman had performances like this, it was excuses... you can't have it both ways. edwards played like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 yet when losman had performances like this, it was excuses... you can't have it both ways. edwards played like crap. Are you a Bills fan or a Losman fan? If Edwards is not the answer, there is none. Let's rehash Flutie v. Johnson while we are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 289, 1 TD, 2 INT I think Trent can defend himself. Don't forget the fumble, and only 10 points scored by the O. Not nearly good enough today. Some good play, and some very bad stuff that killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Are you a Bills fan or a Losman fan? If Edwards is not the answer, there is none. Let's rehash Flutie v. Johnson while we are at it. a bills fan. edwards isn't exempt from criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer860 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Plain and simple the whole offense sucks and the defense should go back to Pop Warner and learn how to tackle Our boy POZ got pushed all over the field. I had a feeling this team was a pretender and today they proved it ......again.They $uck. This team is so bad is really doesnt make a difference who the QB is, no heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yep. With no running game, and crap pass blocking, what did you think would happen?? Ain't Edwards fault. Blame both the O-line for poor run and pass blocking, and the D-line for poor pash rush...again.... Yes we dont have a running game but we knew the Jets are good on run D. Should have planned around it. The pick-6 was all Trent. The fumble is now, what the third in 2 games by Trent ? How is it not on him ? How about the times he held on too long ? I see no reason to give Trent a pass for this game. He is sucking lately after teasing us in the first 5 games. There are other reasons we lost also, but this thread about Trent's performance and he is a BIG reason we lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 a bills fan. edwards isn't exempt from criticism. Criticize him all you want, but let's get over the Losman v. Edwards thing that is long over and done with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Criticize him all you want, but let's get over the Losman v. Edwards thing that is long over and done with. the only reason i brought losman up was because of the sad double standard that exists ... losman could do no right, edwards can do no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 289, 1 TD, 2 INT I think Trent can defend himself. Always a shiny lining, eh connor? Subtract his 10 pts. off the turnovers and we win 17-16. Same as last week. Today we lose 3 of the last 4 and next week we will have lost 4 of the last 5 and be 5-4. Close to what I predicted. Man I am tired of being right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I wish the D-line would stop throwing pick-6's in the red zone.... Give him some pass blocking and maybe that wouldn't happen. Funny how good he looked a couple of weeks ago when he had all the time in the world to throw the ball. Darn near perfect QB rating. He got his butt handed to him by the O-line today. Way to run and pass block O-line. What a bunch of overpaid players. I would say over-rated, but those in the know understand they suk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Criticize him all you want, but let's get over the Losman v. Edwards thing that is long over and done with. Now that is one thing I can agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 yet when losman had performances like this, it was excuses... you can't have it both ways. edwards played like crap. First of all, take JP's rooster out of your mouth. now stick it in your ass. Your hate for TE doesn't allow you to see how bad our O line is. We can't run, we can't block. We were killed out there today. Did you watch the game? Yes Trent made some bad plays for sure, but he did not play like crap. He is lucky to still be standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yes we dont have a running game but we knew the Jets are good on run D. Should have planned around it.The pick-6 was all Trent. The fumble is now, what the third in 2 games by Trent ? How is it not on him ? How about the times he held on too long ? I see no reason to give Trent a pass for this game. He is sucking lately after teasing us in the first 5 games. There are other reasons we lost also, but this thread about Trent's performance and he is a BIG reason we lost. How is the fumble his fault?? Blind side rush with zero protection, again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Give him some pass blocking and maybe that wouldn't happen. Funny how good he looked a couple of weeks ago when he had all the time in the world to throw the ball. Darn near perfect QB rating. He got his butt handed to him by the O-line today. Way to run and pass block O-line. What a bunch of overpaid players. I would say over-rated, but those in the know understand they suk. On that pick-6, he had little pressure. Not more than any QB can expect to see anyway. There is NO excuse for that play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 First of all, take JP's rooster out of your mouth. now stick it in your ass. Your hate for TE doesn't allow you to see how bad our O line is. We can't run, we can't block. We were killed out there today. Did you watch the game? Yes Trent made some bad plays for sure, but he did not play like crap. He is lucky to still be standing. edwards gave up as many points as the offense scored. take it how you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 The pick-6 was all Trent. The fumble is now, what the third in 2 games by Trent ? How is it not on him ? How about the times he held on too long ? I see no reason to give Trent a pass for this game. He is sucking lately after teasing us in the first 5 games. There are other reasons we lost also, but this thread about Trent's performance and he is a BIG reason we lost. Didn't the Jets give him fits with that same corner blitz in the Meadowlands last year? I seem to remember them blitzing the crap out of him before JP came in, all on that corner blitz, and he just didn't pick it up. I don't think he fumbled but I think he got hit hard a couple times right after throwing. Maybe my memory is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I wish the D-line would stop throwing pick-6's in the red zone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yes we dont have a running game but we knew the Jets are good on run D. Should have planned around it.The pick-6 was all Trent. The fumble is now, what the third in 2 games by Trent ? How is it not on him ? How about the times he held on too long ? I see no reason to give Trent a pass for this game. He is sucking lately after teasing us in the first 5 games. There are other reasons we lost also, but this thread about Trent's performance and he is a BIG reason we lost. Bite your heresy speaking tongue! Only JP hangs onto the ball too long, never Trent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 How is the fumble his fault?? Blind side rush with zero protection, again! It wasnt blindside..... but the FB completely missed the blitz pickup there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 How is the fumble his fault?? Blind side rush with zero protection, again! He has no pocket presence. Oh wait, that's when JP get's blind-sided and fumbles. Sorry, wrong QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I thought Edward played pretty well overall. His first pick was from Roscoe falling down, and his 2nd pick was his fault, but overall a good game. I know the box score doesn't reflect that, but he played very well with no running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Subtract his 10 pts. off the turnovers and we win 17-16. Same as last week. INTERESTING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_soul-dier Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 what? shut up.....who the F*ck$ is jp? give it a rest...we have bigger issues to deal with on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 First of all, take JP's rooster out of your mouth. now stick it in your ass. Your hate for TE doesn't allow you to see how bad our O line is. We can't run, we can't block. We were killed out there today. Did you watch the game? Yes Trent made some bad plays for sure, but he did not play like crap. He is lucky to still be standing. Yeah same to you. The exact same could and should be said about the Arizona game, yet you and the JP haters were blaming him for the loss. And this just in: Trent makes some really stupid mistakes that are actually in fact HIS fault. If JP had played the exact same game the past two weeks, you'd be screaming for his head and telling us all how he has no intelligence. When Trent basically gives two division games away with 6 turnovers in two games on some absolutely ridiculous plays, we get to hear how he didn't play that bad and it was the rest of the team that sucked, not him. But hey, the homoerotic cracks really help cover that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I can empathize with the OP, because my fuzzy memory doesn't ever recall JP getting a similar pass from the fans. No pocket awareness, takes too long to read plays, turnover machine. Sound familiar? Oh wait, the run game was invisible and Bills couldn't stop the opposition when they needed to. Sound familiar? Let's revisit another great quote: "So with Trent out there I don't have any worries at all. I sit on the bench, drink a little water, a little Gatorade and I glance over at the scoreboard. We need him out there. I felt like if we had him for the entire game against Arizona we might be sitting here talking about a 6-0 football team instead of 5-1. I really believe that." Nostalgia is great, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yep. With no running game, and crap pass blocking, what did you think would happen?? Ain't Edwards fault. Blame both the O-line for poor run and pass blocking, and the D-line for poor pash rush...again.... Exactly. We all know that Trent has a fine layer of teflon on him and cannot be blamed for anything. Nothing sticks to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 He has no pocket presence. Oh wait, that's when JP get's blind-sided and fumbles. Sorry, wrong QB! Whatever. Funny how on these boards a few short weeks ago, Trent was the second coming... Now that the O-line is totally exposed, Trent is the problem. Sorry, but get your head out of the dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yeah same to you. The exact same could and should be said about the Arizona game, yet you and the JP haters were blaming him for the loss. And this just in: Trent makes some really stupid mistakes that are actually in fact HIS fault. If JP had played the exact same game the past two weeks, you'd be screaming for his head and telling us all how he has no intelligence. When Trent basically gives two division games away with 6 turnovers in two games on some absolutely ridiculous plays, we get to hear how he didn't play that bad and it was the rest of the team that sucked, not him. I hear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schulman16 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Football is a team game. Always was, always will be. Trent is part of the team and should take his fair share of the blame. But he shouldn't be the only one singled out. Everyone needs to stop being so over-dramatic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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