Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If his "ankle" is so bad that it caused him to drop from a 4.2 to a 2.9 YPA average, why not sit him. I have several problems with the "U"-boy. 1) He doesn't have good situational awareness in the game. He never seems to find the big hole and attack it. 2) He doesn't seem to CARE whether he wins or loses. Not the type of guy I want for a feature back. 3) A-train seemed to run with a lot more power and authority than did Willis. I think that a few games on the bench might be just what the doctor ordered for "the best RB in the NFL." I think it might be time to stop drafting UM players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonz Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yes. Sit him. The good news is WM only has 15 games left as a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yes. Sit him. The good news is WM only has 15 games left as a Bill. 769143[/snapback] I thought this was the first of Willis' last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 No. But if he can't get it going we should turn it over to A-Train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 No. If he is able to go, play him. He needs to be given the chance to get into a groove. He showed excellent speed yesterday, and I thought he demonstrated good field vision yesterday, as he cut back and reversed field successfully a few times. And if he is less than 100 percent, then split his carries with A-Train. But there is no doubt that WM is a much better receiving threat than A-Train. Oh yeah, does anyone remember Gates now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 No. If he is able to go, play him. He needs to be given the chance to get into a groove. He showed excellent speed yesterday, and I thought he demonstrated good field vision yesterday, as he cut back and reversed field successfully a few times. And if he is less than 100 percent, then split his carries with A-Train. But there is no doubt that WM is a much better receiving threat than A-Train. Oh yeah, does anyone remember Gates now? 769191[/snapback] Willis dances too much. Had he dove straight ahead on that 4th and 1 we'd be talking about a Bills win today. The failure on that play was not the OL's, it was Willis'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Willis dances too much. Had he dove straight ahead on that 4th and 1 we'd be talking about a Bills win today. The failure on that play was not the OL's, it was Willis'. 769193[/snapback] We may not be talking about a win, but atleast we would have less posts about DJ making a "Dumb playcall that cost the game" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Willis dances too much. Had he dove straight ahead on that 4th and 1 we'd be talking about a Bills win today. The failure on that play was not the OL's, it was Willis'. 769193[/snapback] Yes, he dances, which is what he is built for. Remember last year when he stopped dancing after he was called out by the NFL's worst coach? How did that work out for us? Though, he should be ashamed that he had such poor situational awareness that he didn't know it was fourth down. I agree that a first down there would not have necessarily meant a win for us. We still couldn't stop the run or the tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 We play Willis, but if he can't get something going expect to see more Thomas. I was pleasantly surprised by AT's receiving to, and he definitely was key to the long drive we had while he was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 NOT knowing it is 4th and 1 is inexcusable. I thought he a very good game up until that point. But he needs to get a head on his shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Mike1 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yes, he dances, which is what he is built for. Remember last year when he stopped dancing after he was called out by the NFL's worst coach? How did that work out for us? Though, he should be ashamed that he had such poor situational awareness that he didn't know it was fourth down. I agree that a first down there would not have necessarily meant a win for us. We still couldn't stop the run or the tight ends. 769207[/snapback] Huh? It would have been first and goal from the 6 with a 17-7 lead. That was a win baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 We still couldn't stop the run 769207[/snapback] No we couldn't. or their tight ends. 769207[/snapback] I think 4 catches for 73 yards (Watson 3 for 50, Graham 1 for 23) suggests they had a few big plays, but with two rookie safeties playing most of the game, I wouldn't say that's bad at all. Whitner made a great read and broke early on Watson's route for his pick. Overall, not too bad. With the receivers NE had on the field, two rooks holding those two talented TE's to 4 catches is ok to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeparrishfan Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Reporter- "Willis, are you upset with the coaches for benching you this week?" Willis- "No I'm not upset, I actually thought it was the bye week." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVSplit Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I agree. WM should be sat down awhile. He always shuffles left or right before hitting the hole. Not knowing that it was 4th down was inexcuseable. His "doesn't matter" attitude is not what we need. Plus, he won't be around next year anyway. Play the "A-Train" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 How quickly people forget he turned a blown up screen pass from a 5 yard loss in to a 20+ yard gain by shaking free from the entire pats front 7. A-Train doesn't give you that. I'm constantly shocked at the fans here. I would have expected more from a blue collar town. You act like white collar powder puff girls when something bad happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theesir Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 situational awareness in the game. He never seems to find the big hole and attack it.2) He doesn't seem to CARE whether he wins or loses. Not the type of guy I want for a feature back. 769139[/snapback] This is the part that bothers me the most. He seems like every stoner I have ever know. They could care less what happens one way or another. Willis seems to like the idea of playing football or being a football player, not being part of this team or about winning. That's my biggest problem with the whole "Miami guys train together in the off season, not with their team" thing. The only "team" they seem to care about is the U. Much more concerned about their individual stats and glory than the role they play on their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makbeer Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I guarantee you the players at the U train harder than the players in Buffalo. That's the reason they all go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I think it might be time to stop drafting UM players. 769139[/snapback] I'm happy with Willis, thought he looked very good in the 1st half before getting nicked up. Roscoe on PR though is still a fumble waiting to happen, I had hoped his "catching" would be better this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 This is the part that bothers me the most. He seems like every stoner I have ever know. They could care less what happens one way or another. Willis seems to like the idea of playing football or being a football player, not being part of this team or about winning. That's the biggest part of the whole "Miami guys train together in the off season, not with their team" thing. The only "team" they seem to care about is the U. Much more concerned about their individual stats and glory than the role they play on their team. 769320[/snapback] He's exactly the type of player I don't want to cheer for. He's stupid and he doesn't seem to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgang Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm constantly shocked at the fans here. I would have expected more from a blue collar town. You act like white collar powder puff girls when something bad happens. 769312[/snapback] I'm constantly shocked at WM's lack of game awareness. If you don't know it's 4th and 1 and that you are going to kill a 75 yard drive and any prospect for points if you don't go 3 feet, something is wrong. My jaw dropped when I read that quote. He showed a lot of guts yesterday playing on a bum ankle. He just nees to pull his head out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Willis dances too much. Had he dove straight ahead on that 4th and 1 we'd be talking about a Bills win today. The failure on that play was not the OL's, it was Willis'. 769193[/snapback] Because he didnt get a first down we should sit him. Are you serious with this sh--. Its the first game of the year. We lost, not because of the first down that we didnt make, but we got beat by a better team on Sunday. Next time we meet it will be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yes, he dances, which is what he is built for. Remember last year when he stopped dancing after he was called out by the NFL's worst coach? How did that work out for us? 769207[/snapback] Its all about the situation. Priest Holmes was one of the best short-yardage backs I have ever seen. When he would get in this situation, he would just take the handoff and run full speed at the line, and get the short distance by sheer force of will. I don't have a problem with using your elusiveness in certain situations, but on 4th and 1, when everyone in the stadium is expecting a run up the middle, you absolutely have to run with more authority. We only need a half a yard. Willis should be able to get that on power alone. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Because he didnt get a first down we should sit him. Are you serious with this sh--. Its the first game of the year. We lost, not because of the first down that we didnt make, but we got beat by a better team on Sunday. Next time we meet it will be a different story. 769336[/snapback] Maybe so. But he WAS indeed tentative in the second half. Thomas ran with much more authority while he was in the game. Same line. Same QB. COMPLETELY different results. Willis isn't as good as he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Because he didnt get a first down we should sit him. Are you serious with this sh--. Its the first game of the year. We lost, not because of the first down that we didnt make, but we got beat by a better team on Sunday. Next time we meet it will be a different story. 769336[/snapback] Totally agree. You put your best 11 on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Tom Brady had a schitty game yesterday, do you think the Pats should sit him next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Tom Brady had a schitty game yesterday, do you think the Pats should sit him next week? 769359[/snapback] Tom Brady made plays when he was called on it to. Willis didn't. All he had to do was take the ball, run forward and fall forward. Instead, he stutter-stepped, ran SIDEWAYS and THEN jumped forward. Football isn't rocket science. Despite that, Willis seems to have a problem grasping it's "complexities". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Tom Brady had a schitty game yesterday, do you think the Pats should sit him next week? 769359[/snapback] Yes. Yes I do. VERY good point Real. You people need to relax. Willis far and away the #1 back on the team. But we should bench him for an RB who was out of football at the beginning of the year? Just because a fat guy from Cheektowaga with chicken wing stains on his shirt doesn't like Willis' agent or where he went to college, that doesn't mean we should bench him. He will go home to Miami and play BIG. Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Tom Brady made plays when he was called on it to. Willis didn't. All he had to do was take the ball, run forward and fall forward. Instead, he stutter-stepped, ran SIDEWAYS and THEN jumped forward. Football isn't rocket science. Despite that, Willis seems to have a problem grasping it's "complexities". 769364[/snapback] That play sucked without a doubt and I put the blame on Willis. But, no, I would never sit him. At this point he is still valuable to sit. Maybe, next time we have a 4th and 1 you sit him and put in Thomas, and make sure you tell him why he's not in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Football isn't rocket science. Despite that, Willis seems to have a problem grasping it's "complexities". 769364[/snapback] You could argue that running back is the position in football that absolutely requires the least intelligence. It's all instinct and reacting. Everyone on defense has to read the plays. The O-line has to pick up the blitz. Recievers and TE's have to run routes. The QB has to do everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 He will go home to Miami and play BIG. Relax. 769369[/snapback] Let's hope so. He needs to realize the end zone is ahead of him, not to either side of him. Sooner he realizes that, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I think folks may want to wait a game or two into the season (actually probably about 8) before they panic and bench their starting RB who has far greater potential upside as a young player originally thought to one of the top 5 players in college football who we acquired with a pick inthe 20s because of his injury. In his still less than 2 full seasons of starts, WM is a youngster who is the fastest Bill to rush for over 2000 yards. The idea you would bench him to start your back-up RB who really impressed us a lot yesterday but who is coming off of two poor seasons and last went barely over 1000 yards rushing in a season in 2003 would really be the height of panic. In fact, to take extreme action as a motivational tool says a lot more about the person making an assessment of the character of a player whom they really do not know beyond their interpretation of his motivations based on what they see on TV than any real assessment. I think the key thing for the Bills at RB yesterday was that for the first time since the good ol days way back when which saw the obviously higher upside RB Thurman Thomas spelled by Kenny Davis did I feel quite good about the 2 players we had at RB. One thing which I thought the CBS announcers were right about yesterday amidst all their blather and trying to make reality fit their storylines, was that NFL teams seem to be going much more toward having tow RBs they iuse extensively with though one is clearly the #1, they both are productive and pose specific threats. Clearly the Pats have that will Maroney's production working with Dillion, and while clearly our back-up Thomas does not present the impressive potential upside of their #2 Maroney, despite the rants of some fans who were ready to cut Thomas this pre-season to keep Gates, i think the bills may well prove to have 2 RBs capable of important contributions to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 No. If he is able to go, play him. He needs to be given the chance to get into a groove. He showed excellent speed yesterday, and I thought he demonstrated good field vision yesterday, as he cut back and reversed field successfully a few times. 769191[/snapback] The problem I have with Willis is that he seems to think he's quicker and faster than he really is. Two years ago I loved the guy. He'd put his head down and smash into the line. He's use his monster stiff arm to embarrass defenders. One year removed from his knee injury he didn't think of himself as the speed guy he was in college and he transformed himself into a power back. This year he is definitely faster and more agile but not nearly fast enough to play the type of game he seems insistent on playing. Go watch LT tonight. The guy is as shifty as it gets but he STILL puts his head down and gets tough yards. I'm not blaming Willis for the 4th and 1 miss (as Fowler got blown up) but over the past two years I've grown tired of McGahee's tippy toe dance act in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 NOT knowing it is 4th and 1 is inexcusable. I thought he a very good game up until that point. But he needs to get a head on his shoulders. 769232[/snapback] I was just thinking that JP should start reciting the down and distance in the huddle for everyone's benefit. For example JP "Ok, it's 4th and 1 ! we need this one to win the game. Willis ! We need at least one yard it's fourth down !" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Should we sit Melvin Fowler? [This whole string is really sad.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Should we sit Melvin Fowler? [This whole string is really sad.] 769481[/snapback] Why? Because you're a "U" apologist? This week is going to be a good example of just how average WM is, IMO. Watch how Ronnie Brown goes at the line and then watch Willis. It's no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Why? Because you're a "U" apologist? This week is going to be a good example of just how average WM is, IMO. Watch how Ronnie Brown goes at the line and then watch Willis. It's no contest. 769520[/snapback] Seriously man, watch the replay of the 4th and one. If he goes "straight into the line" he loses 2-3 yards easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Why? Because you're a "U" apologist? This week is going to be a good example of just how average WM is, IMO. Watch how Ronnie Brown goes at the line and then watch Willis. It's no contest. 769520[/snapback] Which college football team do you support???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Seriously man, watch the replay of the 4th and one. If he goes "straight into the line" he loses 2-3 yards easy. 769525[/snapback] Exactly. You are 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Seriously man, watch the replay of the 4th and one. If he goes "straight into the line" he loses 2-3 yards easy. 769525[/snapback] Not necessarily. But hey, whatever gets you through the week. Point is, that's how he approacches EVERY run, and it's even worse when he has a lead blocker, I've found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Which college football team do you support???? 769529[/snapback] PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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