McDermott still in over his head

[ProcessTruster]

5 hours ago, bigK14094 said:

Yup., a hesitency to challenge so early in the game.  If you don't have stadium access to replay, leave a staff member in a motel nearby, have him watch the game and connect by phone.  McD not on top of this situation.  Not having access is McD's fault!!!

omg this board is tedious

[HamptonBillsfan]

7 hours ago, vtnatefootball11 said:

It's games like this, against a well coached team, where McDermott's ineptitude is magnified. He just doesn't have a feel in critical game management situations. Not challenging that deep pass on the first drive was atrocious. It spotted the Pats 7 points early and we almost didn't recover.  The entire stadium knew it wasn't caught, the Pats were sprinting up the field to hike the ball, it's early in the first losing a timeout means nothing, why not challenge? Just terrible. He's always overthinking critical game management calls and for guys like Vrabel, Reid, McVay, others, it just comes natural. McDermott is not a bad coach, and I've been impressed with the way he's responded to criticism and challenged himself to grow and change in these last couple years, but he just doesn't have an elite football mind. It's painfully obvious when we go up against good coaches.  Even if Josh carries us to a superbowl this year, won't change how I feel about McDermott. 

You’re right but because he wins and makes the playoffs and wins in the playoffs, he’s not going anywhere. When he looks to the heavens and thanks the lord after wins, he’s grateful for #17 coming into his life. Josh overcomes bad coaching.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

You’re right but because he wins and makes the playoffs and wins in the playoffs, he’s not going anywhere. When he looks to the heavens and thanks the lord after wins, he’s grateful for #17 coming into his life. Josh overcomes bad coaching.

 

It always takes two to tango 

 

Always has always will.. Josh is not prepping up a five win franchise...

 

The Chiefs have a fantastic coaching staff and as much talent as the bills and they are under .500

 

Sean McDermott is not the problem

[FLFan]

8 hours ago, vtnatefootball11 said:

It's games like this, against a well coached team, where McDermott's ineptitude is magnified. He just doesn't have a feel in critical game management situations. Not challenging that deep pass on the first drive was atrocious. It spotted the Pats 7 points early and we almost didn't recover.  The entire stadium knew it wasn't caught, the Pats were sprinting up the field to hike the ball, it's early in the first losing a timeout means nothing, why not challenge? Just terrible. He's always overthinking critical game management calls and for guys like Vrabel, Reid, McVay, others, it just comes natural. McDermott is not a bad coach, and I've been impressed with the way he's responded to criticism and challenged himself to grow and change in these last couple years, but he just doesn't have an elite football mind. It's painfully obvious when we go up against good coaches.  Even if Josh carries us to a superbowl this year, won't change how I feel about McDermott. 

The nicest response I can have to this drivel is to laugh.

[Chaos]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

It always takes two to tango 

 

Always has always will.. Josh is not prepping up a five win franchise...

 

The Chiefs have a fantastic coaching staff and as much talent as the bills and they are under .500

 

Sean McDermott is not the problem

Chiefs have been too 6 straight championship games and won three super bowls.  This is not a coincidence. Reid is a first year eligible hall of fame coach. McDermott is not close to his level. 

[HappyDays]

I still don't think it would have been overturned. I think the original call would have stood because of the "incontrovertible evidence" rule. However I have changed my mind from yesterday in the sense that I now agree McDermott should have challenged it. It's 3rd down and the worst case scenario is you lose a 1st half TO. Maybe the ball movement is enough to overturn it and force a punt so the risk/reward is worth it. It's a tougher call than fans are making it out to be though. The replay is not conclusive by any means and he had like 20 seconds to decide without any clear go ahead from his replay guy. I think most fans are particularly angry because they are 100% sure it would have been overturned. I remain unconvinced.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by HappyDays

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Chiefs have been too 6 straight championship games and won three super bowls.  This is not a coincidence. Reid is a first year eligible hall of fame coach. McDermott is not close to his level. 

Semantics 

 

Age catches up to everybody.. what you are 4 years ago doesn't always mean what you are today 

 

Andy Reid and the Chiefs have as much talent as the bills and they have been under performing 

 

The NFL doesn't care about what you've done in the past.. the only thing that matters is this year 

 

If the bills were under .500 Sean McDermott would be getting crucified 

 

He's literally beat Andy Reid five straight times in the regular season.. no bum coach could do that 

 

What we have been is super injured in the playoffs outside of one year where Hamlin almost died on the field and our team was already spent

 

Sean McDermott is severely underrated on this message board

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Pete]

3 hours ago, muppy said:

the second half adjustments were stellar. And clearly the Pats had no answer to them

 

2 game in a row the defense rebounded in the second half. Im THRILLED with the Dubs and will take one however we can

 

It is as McDermott said. The guys displayed great mental toughness not to fold after halftime

 

Just who is making the adjustments deserves some flowers just saying

 

 

Babich and McD have been making awesome halftime adjustments. Many games the Bills D got run over in the first half, and tightened up in second half. Cossel said the Bills D does not have the talent, but are schemed better, so they are greater than the sum of their parts.  He said going down big in the first half, and coming back and winning is unsustainable.  But the Bills do it over and over.  And they are very comfortable coming back from multiple TDs down

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[Adam727]

8 hours ago, vtnatefootball11 said:

It's games like this, against a well coached team, where McDermott's ineptitude is magnified. He just doesn't have a feel in critical game management situations. Not challenging that deep pass on the first drive was atrocious. It spotted the Pats 7 points early and we almost didn't recover.  The entire stadium knew it wasn't caught, the Pats were sprinting up the field to hike the ball, it's early in the first losing a timeout means nothing, why not challenge? Just terrible. He's always overthinking critical game management calls and for guys like Vrabel, Reid, McVay, others, it just comes natural. McDermott is not a bad coach, and I've been impressed with the way he's responded to criticism and challenged himself to grow and change in these last couple years, but he just doesn't have an elite football mind. It's painfully obvious when we go up against good coaches.  Even if Josh carries us to a superbowl this year, won't change how I feel about McDermott. 

This is pretty much how I feel.  I didn’t like McDermott when he got here that first season and kept trying to start peterman. But he won me over since, I think in most respects he is a good coach and I have been a full blown McD apologist for years. I remember all the other coaches we’ve had the last two decades. New isn’t always better.  But that was an obvious incompletion I could see it from my tv. McD has been blowing these challenge situations since he got here. I thought we brought someone in to help w this. Watching Vrabel next to the ref unable to throw his challenge flag fast enough the next drive just gave a side by side comparison of how the Bills do it and the correct way to do it. McD is still a good coach. But he spotted the opposing team 7 points in an important game.  Again.  That won’t cut it in the playoffs.  

8 hours ago, vtnatefootball11 said:

It's games like this, against a well coached team, where McDermott's ineptitude is magnified. He just doesn't have a feel in critical game management situations. Not challenging that deep pass on the first drive was atrocious. It spotted the Pats 7 points early and we almost didn't recover.  The entire stadium knew it wasn't caught, the Pats were sprinting up the field to hike the ball, it's early in the first losing a timeout means nothing, why not challenge? Just terrible. He's always overthinking critical game management calls and for guys like Vrabel, Reid, McVay, others, it just comes natural. McDermott is not a bad coach, and I've been impressed with the way he's responded to criticism and challenged himself to grow and change in these last couple years, but he just doesn't have an elite football mind. It's painfully obvious when we go up against good coaches.  Even if Josh carries us to a superbowl this year, won't change how I feel about McDermott. 

This is pretty much how I feel.  I didn’t like McDermott when he got here that first season and kept trying to start peterman. But he won me over since, I think in most respects he is a good coach and I have been a full blown McD apologist for years. I remember all the other coaches we’ve had the last two decades. New isn’t always better.  But that was an obvious incompletion I could see it from my tv. McD has been blowing these challenge situations since he got here. I thought we brought someone in to help w this. Watching Vrabel next to the ref unable to throw his challenge flag fast enough the next drive just gave a side by side comparison of how the Bills do it and the correct way to do it. McD is still a good coach. But he spotted the opposing team 7 points in an important game.  Again.  That won’t cut it in the playoffs.  

[HamptonBillsfan]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

It always takes two to tango 

 

Always has always will.. Josh is not prepping up a five win franchise...

 

The Chiefs have a fantastic coaching staff and as much talent as the bills and they are under .500

 

Sean McDermott is not the problem

Never said Sean was the problem, but the fact that we don’t get over the hump . is in some part due to things like game day decisions(see 13 seconds, not playing Cook the last 2 series at KC last season, not adding a receiver or a DB, or a Defensive Tackle at the deadline, or challenging the Boute catch yesterday. Sean is a motivator no doubt, but he is not a coach that makes good decisions.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Never said Sean was the problem, but the fact that we don’t get over the hump . is in some part due to things like game day decisions(see 13 seconds, not playing Cook the last 2 series at KC last season, not adding a receiver or a DB, or a Defensive Tackle at the deadline, or challenging the Boute catch yesterday. Sean is a motivator no doubt, but he is not a coach that makes good decisions.

McDermott not in control of the roster 

 

Every single quote from Terry P and the bills the last x amount of years all point to Brandon Beane being in full control of the roster 

 

Sean tells him the arch types he wants.. BB brings them in 

 

So Beane is bringing in ingredients and sean just making the meals 

 

The difference is bb years ago brought in Cole Beasley and diggs and John Brown and Sanders and drafted Davis 

 

He hasn't been able to replicate that and Sean just works with what he has

 

As to not challenging the catch yesterday.. the Patriots who are in control of the jumbotron did not play a replay.. and they ran up to the line to hike fast.. Sean had no chance to even see what the play looked like 

 

But and the bills had a questionable play the eye in the sky was very fast to overturn us.. we didn't get that Grace

Edited 6 hours ago by Buffalo716

[NavyBillsFan]

When your fired for making Whoppers instead of Big Macs....  Then this crap is posted....

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Semantics 

 

Age catches up to everybody.. what you are 4 years ago doesn't always mean what you are today 

 

Andy Reid and the Chiefs have as much talent as the bills and they have been under performing 

 

The NFL doesn't care about what you've done in the past.. the only thing that matters is this year 

 

If the bills were under .500 Sean McDermott would be getting crucified 

 

He's literally beat Andy Reid five straight times in the regular season.. no bum coach could do that 

 

What we have been is super injured in the playoffs outside of one year where Hamlin almost died on the field and our team was already spent

 

Sean McDermott is severely underrated on this message board

 

Josh Allen stats

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Josh Allen stats

I know 

 

Bills are the worst organization in football being propped up 

 

Good contribution

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited 5 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Orlando Buffalo]

McDermott has coached this whole season as if he only cares about the playoffs, they have not opened the playbook that often and have tried to win as many games as possible by simply executing simple plays better. We ran the same play 27 times vs the Steelers, that is the definition of not trying to show too much. I am not stating it will lead us to a super bowl but at least he is coaching like a guy who understands his legacy will be written in January and February. 

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I know 

 

Bills are the worst organization in football being propped up 

 

Good contribution

 

 

 

 

 

 

🙄🙄🙄

This may come as a shock to you, but most teams lose every bit of consistency once their superstar QB walks away.

 

Did you think it was a coincidence the Broncos went from an elite Super Bowl champion team to missing the playoffs for 10 years when Peyton retired?

 

The odds the Bills are back to being a Colts or Cardinals or Titans-tier team when Josh calls it quits are near 100%, no matter how hard McD tries.

[Buffalo716]

14 minutes ago, FireChans said:

This may come as a shock to you, but most teams lose every bit of consistency once their superstar QB walks away.

 

Did you think it was a coincidence the Broncos went from an elite Super Bowl champion team to missing the playoffs for 10 years when Peyton retired?

 

The odds the Bills are back to being a Colts or Cardinals or Titans-tier team when Josh calls it quits are near 100%, no matter how hard McD tries.

Coaches had no impact they wouldn't need them 

 

Players could run the whole thing

 

Literally takes away all the credit from every single coach in the world 

 

That's literally a slap in the face and disrespectful... The bills made the playoffs with tyrod Taylor 

 

 McDermott showed can make the playoffs with an average quarterback... Obviously any coach with a superstar quarterback will be benefited 

 

You're also taking away the top down organizational effort it takes to develop a superstar quarterback.. it literally is a top-down organizational effort 

 

Plenty of talented quarterbacks with great work ethics have been underwhelming because they were in bad spots 

 

The history of the NFL is circumstances ..

 

Bill belichick gets credit for helping the develop Tom Brady.. Tom Brady would not have been the same on 31 other teams if he got drafted to them at 22 the Patriots and Bill belichick helped him reach his potential 

 

Just like Sean McDermott and the bills organization have helped Josh reach his potential.. Patrick mahomes has been regressing for 2 years Josh is still getting better that takes more than work ethic it takes a whole organization

 

The bears haven't developed a 10-year starter in 60 years lol Ben Johnson might save Caleb Williams , but he's not going to be able to turn him into the All pro that his talent could be.. I have zero Faith the Jets could develop any quarterback including Josh Allen if they drafted him at 21

 

The one thing the bills did is tear down this organization top down and everybody around the league says this is world class.. not even good, world class.. and we have a very respected head coach

Edited 5 hours ago by Buffalo716

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The bills made the playoffs with tyrod Taylor 

The Colts made the playoffs once with old man Rivers.

 

The Titans made the playoffs with Mariota once. 
 

Since when is backing into the playoffs one time some massive feather in a team’s cap?
 

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Just like Sean McDermott and the bills organization have helped Josh reach his potential.. Patrick mahomes has been regressing for 2 years Josh is still getting better that takes more than work ethic it takes a whole organization

This is just comical. Andy Reid, a guy who is historically a million times better coach than McDermott is the reason Mahomes is regressing, but McD is the reason Allen keeps playing at a high level. 

Edited 5 hours ago by FireChans

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

The Colts made the playoffs once with old man Rivers.

 

The Titans made the playoffs with Mariota once. 
 

Since when is backing into the playoffs one time some massive feather in a team’s cap?
 

This is just comical. Andy Reid, a guy who is historically a million times better coach than McDermott is the reason Mahomes is regressing, but McD is the reason Allen keeps playing at a high level. 
 

Bananas stuff truly

I never said that 100% why mahomes is regressing and why Josh keeps getting better 

 

But the steadiness of Sean McDermott absolutely has done nothing but help Josh Allen 

 

Sorry dude your bananas if you don't think coaching and an organization have anything to do with developing a quarterback from the prime years of 21 to 25 

 

I have 0% faith that the Jets would be able to develop Josh Allen if they drafted him.. 0% faith 

 

Sean McDermott and the bills deserve some credit

 

 McDermott is like one of only two coaches with a winning record against Andy Reid in the regular season lol you're going to take the easy way out and just go to the postseason but we've had a lot of bad circumstances 

 

And winning in the regular season means a lot in the NFL.. no current coach has a better record against Andy Reid than McDermott and it's not just because Josh Allen it takes a whole team and coaching staff

Edited 5 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Rat-boy]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

omg this board is tedious

 

Leave it to axe-grinders to completely suck the life out of a win.

 

Somebody call Guinness — we must have set a world record for the number of threads on the same message board that have the same content recycled ad nauseum. Or someone has partnered as marketing support for a shampoo company: Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Edited 5 hours ago by Rat-boy