How do we feel about Higgins playing most of the game concussed?

[boyst]

He is a grown ass man. He chose to play. 

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Rubes said:

Not a complete solution by any means, but I think there should be a rule that any player in the first game back from a concussion who needs to be evaluated again for a concussion should automatically be ruled out of that game regardless of the sideline evaluation.

 

I like this idea; they should find a way to be extra cautious with that 1 week danger zone.

The only downside I can see with this is that there might be people who hesitate to even evaluate a guy because they know it will end his day.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Outrageous and unacceptable. Bengals should be fined and forfeit a draft pick

 

he smashed his head multiple times after barely clearing last week. Goes into tent comes back into game then lockeroom and comes back in again.

 

pathetic by NFL

Nfl has done their lip service about caring, to protect vs litigation.

 

This is what PLAYERS, coaches, the league, and probably 95% of fans want.

 

About 50% of that 95% wants it this way, they just don't want to know about the dirty secret.

 

I get it, CTE is no joke. Its the Goldman Dilemma in live action. If everyone's preferred interests are aligned, and athletes want to trade off a certainty (playing) at the expense of a down the road, immeasurable probability, thats not guaranteed... thats their personal decision. 

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, boyst said:

He is a grown ass man. He chose to play. 

 

C'mon man, you can't expect a dude who doesn't even know where he is to make rational decisions about his own compromised brain.

[boyst]

Just now, Simon said:

 

C'mon man, you can't expect a dude who doesn't even know where he is to make rational decisions about his own compromised brain.

I dunno... I've seen a lot players barely know where they are at without concussions.

 

All jokes aside, going into this game he had to know where he was at...

[KHAN]

I fully expect him to be back in the protocol this week.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Allen2Moulds said:

Criminal.....Bengals said we need you, *uck your brain.

Cops dont stand at the door of McDonalds, the bar, or at the ABC store to protect people from themselves. 

 

Its ugly. Its a decision. He wouldn't have faced a single disciplinary action or even a pointed question, had he stayed in locker room.

[BlazinBill]

The NFL seemed like they cared for like a year after Tua looked like he was dying as his fingers curled- not pulling him into the protocol after he just sat there- he even pointed to his head when he first sat up- it’s just nonsense- entertainment will always trump safety sadly

[hondo in seattle]

I think the concussion protocol is imperfect and needs refining but is better than the days when coaches/trainers gave concussed players smelling salts and sent them back in the game with a pat on the back.  A work in progress.  

[blacklabel]

I felt awful for the guy. He should've been done for the day after the first time he slammed his head. And did I hear right, he was just coming back from a concussion?

 

Pretty terrible look for the Bungles. Dude came up grabbing his head after two wicked turf shots and aside from the second TD he caught he looked off for the rest of the game. 

[Hsker4life]

38 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

I mean, he obviously hit his head twice, and one time, clearly showed he had issues, yet he did the protocols, and he played well till the end. His one hand TD catch, you can't do that with your brains scrambled. He had adjusted smartly to the ball too. IMO he was fine. But yeah, if not for that play, I too would think it's suspect. 

There were actually at least TWO different times that after hitting his head, he grabbed or pointed at it to signal it was hurting him.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Walking Tall said:

Allen was concussed last year in Houston. 

2 years ago in Green Bay as well. At least 1 other instance prior to... and these are the obvious ones,  not counting the "bell ringers" we never hear or see.

 

Its ugly but personal risk tolerance is different for everyone.

[muppy]

4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

I think the concussion protocol is imperfect and needs refining but is better than the days when coaches/trainers gave concussed players smelling salts and sent them back in the game with a pat on the back.  A work in progress.  

I thought we were further along than what we saw today. I learned in this thread how it indeed is possible to fake and lie your way into  being labeled okay when you aren't.

 

Physical examinations cannot be conclusive for  a diagnosis right?

 

I'm clearly not a Dr. 

 

 

 

[Simon]

11 minutes ago, boyst said:

I dunno... I've seen a lot players barely know where they are at without concussions.

 

What a terrible thing to say about LBs and Gs 

 

11 minutes ago, boyst said:

All jokes aside, going into this game he had to know where he was at

 

I'm not overly sensitive to this stuff. If I remember right (probably not, too many concussions), when everybody thought Tua was going to instantly drop dead if he ever stepped on a field again, I think we were the only two saying that it was his call alone and everybody else should just keep their pieholes shut.

But the guy making that decision has got to have his mind right to do it; I think it's not reasonable to expect that decision to be made by a brother who thinks he's Batman.

[Billzgobowlin]

1 hour ago, quincy said:

You would hope the Bengals medical staff would want to protect their star player, especially after the second hit. 

 

We want everyone to show toughness but brain injuries are no joke and are whole different ball game.  

Not to mention the fact that it is pretty much a loss of a season

[oldmanfan]

I’m not sure I’d want the neutral physician making that call as my neurologist

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

What a terrible thing to say about LBs and Gs 

 

 

I'm not overly sensitive to this stuff. If I remember right (probably not, too many concussions), when everybody thought Tua was going to instantly drop dead if he ever stepped on a field again, I think we were the only two saying that it was his call alone and everybody else should just keep their pieholes shut.

But the guy making that decision has got to have his mind right to do it; I think it's not reasonable to expect that decision to be made by a brother who thinks he's Batman.

I think in the game it was a failure that the guy who had the job to protect the players did not do their job for him or Dawkins last week but did pull Josh against Houston for what was not a concussion... Only when the year before he did.

 

If you're going to have safe guards in place those need to be used. Higgins also knows the threat of football he deals with so I'm ok if he waits.

[SirAndrew]

3 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Not to mention the fact that it is pretty much a loss of a season

This is a good point, I agree with personal choice, but Higgins is also a walking multi million dollar investment. It seems self destructive of the Bengals, but that franchise shouldn’t surprise anyone. 

[streetkings01]

That was bad! His helmet bounced off the turf on 2 separate occasions where he was pointing to his head.

[Behindenemylines]

1 hour ago, JMM said:

VERY bad look for the NFL. This will be in the headlines this week and there should be a thorough investigation. 

Which will lead to a fine maybe.  Nothing will change and the NFL will continue to say they are proactive in preventing injuries.