Sean apologists... If McD gets fired without ever winning a Super Bowl, you will...

[US Egg]

43 minutes ago, Augie said:

Yes, you use the “half-joking defense” a lot when you go down this path. 

 

I’m not offended, just making a simple observation about behavior. 

The bravado in lots of these threads reminds me of the Robert Conrad battery ad where he’s punching the bag and then dares you to knock the battery off his shoulder.

[Billsfanatic8989]

The only person maybe available who can work with an elite QB and produce results is......Bill Belichick. But he would be 74 with alot of baggage. Other names: Herm Edwards, Nagy, Gruden, Tom Coughlin, Chan Gailey, Jim Caldwell, and...a college HC. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Billsfanatic8989

[Alphadawg7]

I mean you pretty much loaded up the answers here to get what you want.  Not really a fair selection of choices so I will refrain from voting.

[Buffalo Boy]

31 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

1) Brian Dabol - Yes

2) Mike McDaniel - No, but can he run a viable defense?

3) Robert Selah - No, but is he anything more than Sean?

4) Matt Eberflus - Yes

5) Brian Callahan - Yes

6) Doug Pederson - Yes

 

And what does McD look like with their QBs?

Josh has single-handedly kept him employed well past his best if used by date

[nedboy7]

Is it possible that Bean and Brady could go and we retain McD?  Any reality in this sentiment? 

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, nedboy7 said:

Is it possible that Bean and Brady could go and we retain McD?  Any reality in this sentiment? 

 

If the Bills hire a first time GM to replace Beane then that GM might be OK being McDermott's "boy". But if they hire an experienced GM who has won in this league then he will most likely tell Terry he wants the option to fire McDermott and bring in his own HC if he and McDermott aren't on the same page on how to build the team. 

[Cray51]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Doesnt take 5 years. Maybe 1 transition year TOPS.

 

Other good, established teams have already dont this with little to no drop off.

 

This isnt a drought-era team. It's a team with the reigning MVP.

Which Super Bowl winning teams in the past 10 years have come from quick adjustments and retools as opposed to full on rebuilds?

 

Chiefs - no

Eagles - maybe the only case - Reich brought in a new wave offense that led them to their win.  Sirianni was a potential fire candidate before last year

Patriots - no

Rams - no, they bottomed out for a #1 OVR pick

Bucs - no, Brady was a once in a decade get

Broncos - No, Manning was a once in a decade get

 

Very rarely do teams who win the Super Bowl get it done quickly after a coaching change or adjustment, without MAJOR additions coming their way (Brady, Manning)

 

[Buffalo03]

I'm guessing based on this thread that McDermott wasn't invited over to your place for Thanksgiving?

[Einstein's Dog]

If we're playing the "what if" game, how about:

 

If the Bills win the Superbowl will TBD be able to vet the posters who can rationally discuss if this is the greatest era ever for the Bills? 

 

It seems some should be excluded from the discussion because of an incredible bias.  Here we are "half-jokingly" discussing replacing the staff after winning an important away game with an understaffed, injured roster.   An outstanding coaching game from all angles -offense, defense, motivation...and yet here we are in an OP talking about replacements?

 

The Bills are in the mix once again as a Superbowl contender and here we are with posters hoping they lose.  

[Cray51]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

And what does McD look like with their QBs?

Josh has single-handedly kept him employed well past his best if used by date

What does he look like?  Maybe making breaking the longest playoff drought in franchise history?

 

But IDK there isn't any sample to go off of.  Oh wait.

[Mark80]

I hate "fans" like this.  They have no consequences.  If they are wrong, they get to be happy we won a SB.  If they are right, they get to say "see, I told you so."  It is such BS.  Personally, I think if he wins people like you should be banned from the message board.

[TheFunPolice]

Jauron was the perennial 7-9 HC here. 

 

If he had Josh Allen with those defenses is it hard to imagine he would have gone 10-6 or 11-5 those years instead? Would putting Allen on those teams instead of Losman or trent mean +3 or +4 wins? 

 

If so, you basically have McDermott. 

 

It would be tough to have a top 2-3 NFL QB and not do well in the regular season. 

[MJS]

If he gets fired, he'll get immediately hired by another organization and turn them into a perennial contender as well.

[DrDawkinstein]

12 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

If we're playing the "what if" game, how about:

 

If the Bills win the Superbowl will TBD be able to vet the posters who can rationally discuss if this is the greatest era ever for the Bills? 

 

It seems some should be excluded from the discussion because of an incredible bias.  Here we are "half-jokingly" discussing replacing the staff after winning an important away game with an understaffed, injured roster.   An outstanding coaching game from all angles -offense, defense, motivation...and yet here we are in an OP talking about replacements?

 

The Bills are in the mix once again as a Superbowl contender and here we are with posters hoping they lose.  

 

3 minutes ago, Mark80 said:

I hate "fans" like this.  They have no consequences.  If they are wrong, they get to be happy we won a SB.  If they are right, they get to say "see, I told you so."  It is such BS.  Personally, I think if he wins people like you should be banned from the message board.

 

 

 

Yall can get mad at me for starting a thread instead of facing the reality of the question. Go Bills!

[MJS]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

And what does McD look like with their QBs?

Josh has single-handedly kept him employed well past his best if used by date

He took the Bills to the playoffs before Josh Allen ever got here, in a year where he was accused of tanking the team.

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I dont think he gets fired this year, so that isnt the question.

 

Terry and many folks here seem to be happy sitting on a nice Regular Season win/loss record, and some AFC East Championships (although those days seem to be over now that there's a better HC in the Division).

 

When we go another few years of this garbage, and Josh has officially entered the end of his career, how happy will you McD Apologists be with nothing to show for it all?

 

Posts like this make me wish there were a confused, eyebrow raised emoji. I don't get this post.

 

You don't think McDermott will be fired. But you're asking what McDermott apologists will say when he eventually is fired?

 

If he is eventually fired without a title - what does it matter what McD apologists say and think? Why is it a poll?

 

What made you so angry today of all days that you felt the need to post it?

[TheFunPolice]

this discussion is moot: McDermott has a lifetime contract here. Think Tomlin style job security. 

 

He's a great person and a good enough coach to win, so you might as well get behind him because he will be the coach for Allen's entire Bills career. 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

If he gets fired, he'll get immediately hired by another organization and turn them into a perennial contender as well.

 

I think you will see your scenario play out after this year but only with Tomlin not McDermott. I think this is the year the Steelers and Mike part ways.

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Posts like this make me wish there were a confused, eyebrow raised emoji. I don't get this post.

 

You don't think McDermott will be fired. But you're asking what McDermott apologists will say when he eventually is fired?

 

If he is eventually fired without a title - what does it matter what McD apologists say and think? Why is it a poll?

 

What made you so angry today of all days that you felt the need to post it?

 

No one's angry my man! I thought the original "McD Haters" thread was funny so made the counter point to keep discussion lively.

 

Really ruffled some feathers with my sacrilege because the McD "apologists" apparently take this way more seriously than the "haters"! But it isnt about me.

 

For all the folks Ive so deeply offended, here is the original...

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I think you will see your scenario play out after this year but only with Tomlin not McDermott. I think this is the year the Steelers and Mike part ways.

 

I see that as well, and could see him going to Miami.

Edited 35 minutes ago by DrDawkinstein

[MJS]

5 minutes ago, Gregg said:

I think you will see your scenario play out after this year but only with Tomlin not McDermott. I think this is the year the Steelers and Mike part ways.

I agree. If Tomlin had a quarterback again, he'd have a strong team.