beane gets fired and you are the new gm

[MPL]

1 minute ago, IYKYK said:

4 minutes ago, MPL said:

IDK about you, but first thing I'm doing as GM is coming to TwoBillsDrive and getting very sound advice on personnel and player decisions. 

?????

I don’t understand this take. It’s a message board! We have differing opinions. Should be celebrated. Too many people like this. Accept mediocrity. 

Take it easy, Danny DeVito. It was a joke. I don't accept mediocrity.

[Matt_In_NH]

I would fire and waive people at halftime

[IYKYK]

1 minute ago, MPL said:

Take it easy, Danny DeVito. It was a joke. I don't accept mediocrity.

I can’t take it any easier than I do. So all good there. I would hire Danny Devito before I hire mcbean again.

[MPL]

4 minutes ago, RedandBlue said:

11 minutes ago, MPL said:

IDK about you, but first thing I'm doing as GM is coming to TwoBillsDrive and getting very sound advice on personnel and player decisions. 

The crazy part about this is, if they followed more than a few posters on here as far as draft advice goes, we would be in a much better situation right now. I’m not saying that for myself, but quite a few posters. That’s really sad truthfully. So kudos to you guys.

I mean, sure, we would have collectively avoided some of the misses, but we also would have collectively missed a whole lot, too. 

[ProcessTruster]

10 minutes ago, IYKYK said:

?????

I don’t understand this take. It’s a message board! We have differing opinions. Should be celebrated. Too many people like this. Accept mediocrity. 

a 70%+ win percentage for 6 years is mediocrity?   5 division titles in a row is mediocrity?    are you kidding?    you must not have been around for the drought; 7-9, 8-8, 6-10... now that is mediocrity... and it lasted for 20 years 

Edited 1 hour ago by ProcessTruster

[MPL]

1 minute ago, IYKYK said:

4 minutes ago, MPL said:

Take it easy, Danny DeVito. It was a joke. I don't accept mediocrity.

I can’t take it any easier than I do. So all good there. I would hire Danny Devito before I hire mcbean again.

I believe that team would always come up short. 

[Uncle Stucky]

1 minute ago, ProcessTruster said:

a 70%+ win percentage for 6 years is mediocrity?   5 division titles in a row is mediocrity?    are you kidding?    you must not have been around for the drought.  

Regular season success, playoff mediocrity 

[dcinmuncie]

Just now, ProcessTruster said:

a 70%+ win percentage for 6 years is mediocrity?   5 division titles in a row is mediocrity?    are you kidding?    you must not have been around for the drought.  

When you have arguably the most physically gifted qb to ever play the game, that is mediocrity 

 

I know he wasn’t popular, but I can’t imagine what a good offensive mind like Chan gailey would do if he had this qb! 

[TBBills Fan]

I remove the pingpong and foosball game in the locker room.  

[FireChans]

Legitimately, the answer is fire everyone.

 

Cut all the bum contracts. Knox, Samuel, etc etc. all the guys we can eat the money for next year with penalty but also additional savings.

 

I probably trade Coleman if I can get a 4th or conditional 4th. 
 

Hire a younger offensive mind. Probably from the Shanahan tree. I try to dangle AHC/DC duties to a Vic Fangio or a Brian Flores. We are unfortunately cooked when it comes to defensive personnel for the most part, but I’d like to get an experienced DC in there to revamp roles, responsibilities and see who can actually produce.

 

I dangle our 2026 first for a player. Would have no problem going for Waddle or AJB.
 

I would try to hang onto our second and see if we can get a premium positional player, either an EDGE or a tackle or even a WR.

I’d bring in a bunch of end of roster guys to fill in the rest of the gaps. We don’t need middle class FAs anymore and we aren’t wasting any more money on them to be the 5th or 6th DL or the 5th or 6th WR. I’d try to get another body at WR in the fourth or even 3rd unless we draft one with our second.

 

Id pay the OL with the savings from the dead weight we cut. No other big moves.

 

My idea for groupings would be:

 

Josh

 

Cook, Ty, Davis

 

1st round trade vet (waddle, AJB), Palmer, Shakir, rookie, +\- another rookie and Keon.

Kincaid, Hawes, street FA/UFA

OL as it stands

 

Rousseau, Jackson, rookie DE, Solomon, street FA

Oliver, Walker, Saunders, street FA

Bernard, rookie LB

 

Hairston, Benford, Lewis, rookie DB, street FAs.

 

Bishop, Hancock, rookie DB, street FAs

 

go bargain bin for depth. Enough is enough of paying the Tre White’s of the world millions to be bad.

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, ProcessTruster said:

a 70%+ win percentage for 6 years is mediocrity?   5 division titles in a row is mediocrity?    are you kidding?    you must not have been around for the drought.  

This year we are mediocre and now we have to sweat the playoffs with the other plebs.  If you can't see how Beane has failed to maintain the quality of this roster over the last few years that have gotten us to this point...... I don't know what to tell you.  

[Pete]

Fire Beane and Brady- and I’m pumped.  I like McD- but if he has to go with the other 2 holding back the Bills- let all 3 go.

[Gunsgoodtime]

11 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

a 70%+ win percentage for 6 years is mediocrity?   5 division titles in a row is mediocrity?    are you kidding?    you must not have been around for the drought; 7-9, 8-8, 6-10... now that is mediocrity... and it lasted for 20 years 

It baffles me that people like you never think of the fact that we have the greatest qb to ever play for the Bills when you say things like this.  Any of the drought coaches would have won with Josh Allen, heck, one of them may could have won a SB with him.  There is a reason that McDermott was recently ranked 15th as coach, even with all the wins you mentioned.  He is average...at BEST.  Any decent coach and GM would have at least 1 SB with Josh Allen by now

Edited 1 hour ago by Gunsgoodtime

[SCBills]

I’d probably keep McDermott, but tell him he needs to hire a new OC and DC from outside the building and they both better hit or the runway is short.

 

Restructure Knox, move off Samuel, Johnson etc., Let McGovern and Edwards walk.  Get SVPG, Anderson, Grable and Lundt with Kromer all offseason battling for open spots at LG, C and swing tackle. 
 

DT: Oliver, Walker, Sanders, Carter

DE: Rousseau, Hoecht, Jackson, Solomon

LB: Bernard, Williams 

NCB: Lewis

CB: Hairston, Benford

S: Bishop, Hancock

 

QB: Allen

OL: Dion, Grable, SVPG, Torrence, Brown with Anderson, Lundt 

TE: Kincaid, Knox, Hawes

RB: Cook, Johnson, Davis

WR: Palmer, Gabe, Shakir, Shavers

 

Priority #1 - Get Allen a legit WR to knock everyone else down a peg 

 

Priority #2 - Find a legit pass rusher or Bring Bosa back if that looks unlikely 

 

Priority #3 - NCB to replace Johnson

 

Priority #4 - Linebackers

 

Priority #5 - OL, depending on how they view what they have in the system 

 

Priority #6 - Run stuffing DT

 

Priority #7 - CB Depth

 

Thats a lot of holes, but only the Top 2 should require big swings in $$$ or draft capital.  NCB may be a Day 2 pick.  Fill in via the Draft and smaller signings everywhere else. 
 

New OC and a WR1 fix the biggest weaknesses in this Offense.  OL may require a changing of the guard but these guys coming up have been with Kromer for 2-3 years now. 
 

Defense probably doesn’t get fixed entirely, but with Oliver & Hoecht back, plus a Bosa return or other DE signing, the DL has potential to be good.  Walker/Sanders year 2.  Jackson, Solomon, Carter are bodies but we have to hope they become serviceable depth. 
 

Get younger, bigger at LB to push Bernard (who has an out in his contract after next year) and find a young talented NCB to upgrade over what Johnson has become. 
 

Edited 58 minutes ago by SCBills

[SoonerBillsFan]

28 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Suck it up for 1-2 years and clear out the dead weight and associated dead cap hits.  From there, hope you strike gold in the draft and FA. 

I have Terry give me the money to being in the beat talent evaluators possible.

 

I do as you said amd take the painful cap hit of a purge and depend on the draft.  I emphasize upgrading WR, CB, Safety. 

 

I bring in an offensive minded HC, and have him bring in a damn good DC and trash the crap schemes we have been using

[colin]

i do a sit down w mcd and ask him what he and beane did wrong, and how to fix it.  brady is gone.

 

I make him DC and HC, i get a top flight wr in (waddle will likely be available, but there are others too) and also draft one.  I draft DE and LB and corner with speed and athletic ability.  i clean out the dead wood (many who will go anyhow).

 

i bring in a shanahan tree OC, maybe hc in miami is fired, i'd take him in a second.

 

maybe firing mcd would be better, but i don't know who would be better off the bat, and my goal is a year 1 chip.

 

 

[DaggersEOD]

This crew has been around too long, and been The Team to game plan / draft against for too long to be successful anymore IMO (hoping to eat crow).

 

They've promoted from within and been together too long to come up with any new ideas.

 

I'm terrified of the potential drought returning, but I believe that had more to do with liquid assets / contract structures, than it did just about anything else. Meaning, I don't believe we're necessarily at risk for that happening again with the current owners / investment in the franchise.

 

So I say we need clear out everyone (other than Kromer). And enough with the Billsy mentality of "who's available that will want the job?" and think "Who TF wouldn't want to be handed the keys to this race car of a team?"

 

It's like a dream opportunity! I bet better than 1/2 the current head coaches in the NFL would trade jobs today for the chance. So contracts aside (we can buy them out right and it doesn't affect the cap)...lets assume we can nearly call our shot...

 

Why wouldn't we do this? (Hoping for crow!)

[BuffaloBillyG]

30 minutes ago, Simon said:

Both coordinators are gone on day 1.

That probably solves half the Bills problems in 5 minutes.

 

As long as the mandate is to hire the new coordinators from outside the organization I'm in. 

[Chicken Boo]

McDermott is a good coach, but he'd be out.  Trade for AJ Brown. No more tweener, jack of all trade - master of none defensive draft picks.

 

This is an outdoor, cold weather team.  The defense should reflect that.  

[8BallSippin]

Outside of Allen, there would be no sacred cows. 

 

I'd what the Broncos did, just admit your mistakes and take your dead cap and bad contract pain immediately.  Hire a offensive minded HC that brings in two things- the ability to leverage a prime HOF Josh Allen, and take the culture in a new direction.  Hire the best DC you can buy, and set him loose to build his scheme with his guys.  

 

I'd also focus on always having  an Elite #1 Receiver, Elite RB and Elite LT, either Elite DT or Edge Rusher.  We need game changers.  You already have Elite QB, this shouldn't be rocket science.

 

I'd draft BPA, stock up on the best talent possible.

 

I just want "trust the process" gone, no ill will, but its getting old an delivering the same or worse results.