11/20/2025 Bills @ Texans post game thread

[SCBills]

 

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said:

I think the big picture is not about losing to the Texans who appear to be a playoff team with a very good D.. it’s losing to Atlanta and Miami.. otherwise the Bills have 2 losses and it falls under.. hey it’s the NFL. Those 2 losses are where the season has been lost. 

100% agreed. Those losses will be the back breaker imo. 

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Likely would have been a different outcome if they were in Buffalo for this game. Sure there would have been pressure but being at home gives them a major advantage with timing the snap counts for them to get off the ball on D, especially on a short week.

I agree but if the D can not rise to the occasion and you must have exceptional offensive performances every week regardless of the game site or opponent then the Bills need to build a roster like Cincinnati where they go all in on offense at the expense of the D.  And before people say that the Bengals will miss the playoffs 3 straight years that was mostly because of Burrow's injuries and injury related slow starts.  With Allen being healthy I'm quite confident that with the Bengal's WR's not only do the Bills make the playoffs the last 3 seasons they win a SB or two.

 

 

[Niagara Dude]

16 minutes ago, sven233 said:

 

You can't win an NFL football game when your pass game looks like this.........  You just can't.  To not take even 1 shot down the field, whether it is completed or not, is just unforgivable, especially when the Texans are playing 8-9 guys within 10-15 yards of the LOS.  And all Brady does is run mesh over and over again right in front of them.  What does he expect to gain by doing this?  This isn't college where your WRs are just better than the defensive backs and they can just outrun them.  This is the NFL and you win games with explosive plays, not running east and west every single freaking play.  

 

This is an embarrassment for any coordinator let alone one with Josh freaking Allen at QB.

Just not enough play makers on offence,  the lack of speed is a big reason why Allen has to hold on the ball so long and tonight he got beat up for it

16 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I agree but if the D can not rise to the occasion and you must have exceptional offensive performances every week regardless of the game site or opponent then the Bills need to build a roster like Cincinnati where they go all in on offense at the expense of the D.  And before people say that the Bengals will miss the playoffs 3 straight years that was mostly because of Burrow's injuries and injury related slow starts.  With Allen being healthy I'm quite confident that with the Bengal's WR's not only do the Bills make the playoffs the last 3 seasons they win a SB or two.

 

 

No question,  only way we can beat anyone is to get up 2-3 scores and then force the other team in one dimensional football.  We're not winning close games or if were not scoring at least 30 plus points

[Brand J]

All losses this year - Patriots, Falcons, Dolphins, and Texans, have been on the offense. The defense didn’t play well in stretches, but did keep the team in games and gave them multiple chances to win. The offense continues to come up small. 

[CincyBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, appoo said:

The Bills have the best tackle tandem in the game, though they were poor tonight. 

 

I saw some numbers earlier, but the Bills leave their tackles on Islands more than any other team in the league. They trust their tackles to do their jobs and they generally do so, enabling Josh to do his thing. 

 

They got eaten alive tonight, but the Bills also rarely gave them too much support

And that leads to another coaching issue:  who decided that Brown stay in the game after he got banged up?  It was clear he could not do the job yet the Bills wasted two series with him out there.  Other then QB every other player on the field needs to be subbed out when they get banged up and their performance drops below an acceptable level. Sure, Brown would never take himself out but the coaches have to step in.

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I agree but if the D can not rise to the occasion and you must have exceptional offensive performances every week regardless of the game site or opponent then the Bills need to build a roster like Cincinnati where they go all in on offense at the expense of the D.  And before people say that the Bengals will miss the playoffs 3 straight years that was mostly because of Burrow's injuries and injury related slow starts.  With Allen being healthy I'm quite confident that with the Bengal's WR's not only do the Bills make the playoffs the last 3 seasons they win a SB or two.

 

 

 

They allowed 261 yards of offense and 3 points in the 2nd half when a turnover already put them in FG range. Think you are not being realistic. That game was on the offense...they got chance after chance after chance in the 2nd half and kept squandering them.

[MikePJ76]

2 minutes ago, Brand J said:

All losses this year - Patriots, Falcons, Dolphins, and Texans, have been on the offense. The defense didn’t play well in stretches, but did keep the team in games and gave them multiple chances to win. The offense continues to come up small. 

give me a break.  

 

The defense vs atlanta in the first half was about as bad as a pro football team can play defense in this league.  

 

 

[KOKBILLS]

When you're going up against an elite Defense you need an elite Offensive gameplan... Not necessarily an elite Offense... But you better have an elite gameplan. I think the Bills just did what they always seem to do.. They respect their opponents, but they also look at it like they are elite too, and that means we're going to do what we do...good on good...and we'll see if you can beat us... I call it stubborn... Some might call it over confident, or something else... I think a smart coaching staff realizes this is a game that will be low scoring and physical. A game you can't let their best players beat you... This is yet another game the Bills get beat by an inferior team with a couple elite players when their elite players just absolutely go off against us. That is poor coaching IMHO... You have to make sure those players don't beat you and if that means you change what you normally do for a week so be it... But not the Bills, they are too good for that... 

[Jrb1979]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

SUCK IT CHIEFS AND RAVENS! Losing to Houston keeps you losers behind them. 

 

4D Chess

I'm more worried about the Bills joining them. They are a 1/2 game ahead of the Jaguars and only a game ahead of Houston. 

[MikePJ76]

oh well.  I am not torturing myself over this loss like the atlanta and miami games.  its who the team is.  

 

Just started a rewatch of breaking bad so I am going to the crystall palace to watch jesse pinkman eat rice and beans.

[Brand J]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

give me a break.  

 

The defense vs atlanta in the first half was about as bad as a pro football team can play defense in this league.  

 

 

Good thing there are TWO halves in a football game. TWO. What did they do that second half? What did the offense do? The losses have been on the offense.

[ChrisWatson#21]

29 minutes ago, turbo044 said:

If you know anything aboutJosh, you know the answer, He's never leaving Buffalo. He's here for another 8 years hopefully more. Mcstupid, beane counter and Brady can go away whenever. Except Pegula will sit with his fingers up his a$$ and do nothing like he does with the sabres

There isn’t enough media in Buffalo to run McClappy out of town.  McClappy will stay just like what happened in Cincy with Marvin Lewis.  Losing franchises that were just content with playoff berths.  Crazy to think the NY media already ran Dabol out of town after winning COTY in 2022 and how the Philly media also got Andy Reid canned.   

[MikePJ76]

Just now, Brand J said:

Good thing there are TWO halves in a football game. TWO. What did they do that second half? What did the offense do? The losses have been on the offense.

playing from behind on the road is hard.  When the defense gives up a bunch of huge highlight plays and backbreaking drives in the first half and you are losing doesn't mean they aren't the culprit when the offense, the qb doesn't save the day late in the game.  

 

 

 

 

[Brand J]

3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

When you're going up against an elite Defense you need an elite Offensive gameplan... Not necessarily an elite Offense... But you better have an elite gameplan. I think the Bills just did what they always seem to do.. They respect their opponents, but they also look at it like they are elite too, and that means we're going to do what we do...good on good...and we'll see if you can beat us... I call it stubborn... Some might call it over confident, or something else... I think a smart coaching staff realizes this is a game that will be low scoring and physical. A game you can't let their best players beat you... This is yet another game the Bills get beat by an inferior team with a couple elite players when their elite players just absolutely go off against us. That is poor coaching IMHO... You have to make sure those players don't beat you and if that means you change what you normally do for a week so be it... But not the Bills, they are too good for that... 

The coordinators never seem to scheme opponent specific. They just do what they always do on both sides of the ball and believe that it’s enough. They don’t make efforts to take away impact players, they don’t call game plans to attack an opponent’s weakness, they just scheme what they always scheme.

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

Just not enough play makers on offence,  the lack of speed is a big reason why Allen has to hold on the ball so long and tonight he got beat up for it

No question,  only way we can beat anyone is to get up 2-3 scores and then force the other team in one dimensional football.  We're not winning close games or if were not scoring at least 30 plus points

And that is so frustrating to me as a fan. They have built an offensive roster that requires super human efforts from it's QB to put up the points needed to beat good teams.  But because they have so completely failed on the defensive side of the ball the direction they have forced the O to take can not work over an entire season.  If the Bills had the Texans D they would be winning Super Bowls.  

 

The bad defensive play demands a Bills offense with a completely different mindset and roster structure.  We are witnessing a compressive failure to build the right team around a uniquely talented QB. Sure, Allen's play will likely get the Bills into the playoffs but that will be it.  One or at best two and done.  

[Shortchaz]

1 minute ago, ChrisWatson#21 said:

There isn’t enough media in Buffalo to run McClappy out of town.  McClappy will stay just like what happened in Cincy with Marvin Lewis.  Losing franchises that were just content with playoff berths.  Crazy to think the NY media already ran Dabol out of town after winning COTY in 2022 and how the Philly media also got Andy Reid canned.   

The Marvin Lewis comp was something I looked at earlier this year. Feels like the same vibes. 

[RkFast]

I DO NOT need to see Dawkins hamming it up and laughing with a Houston player 30 seconds after a penalty that blew their chance to win.  
 

So much to be angry about but this “yay, we are nice” act ain’t working.  

[Brand J]

1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said:

playing from behind on the road is hard.  When the defense gives up a bunch of huge highlight plays and backbreaking drives in the first half and you are losing doesn't mean they aren't the culprit when the offense, the qb doesn't save the day late in the game.  

 

 

 

 

Sorry, the Buffalo Bills are supposed to go as far as Josh Allen takes them. The second half of that Atlanta game the defense got stop after stop after stop and the offense did nothing outside the opening drive. I don’t want to hear how awful the first half was, so they’re inept in the second half. Move the ball, score points, the defense is doing its job. The offense is not capitalizing. 

Just now, RkFast said:

I DO NOT need to see Dawkins hamming it up and laughing with a Houston player 30 seconds after a penalty that blew their chance to win.  
 

So much to be angry about but this “yay, we are nice” act ain’t working.  

He did the same with Chris Jones last year in the playoffs after Kincaid dropped the ball.

[GoBills808]

7 minutes ago, Brand J said:

Good thing there are TWO halves in a football game. TWO. What did they do that second half? What did the offense do? The losses have been on the offense.

Right

It's basically impossible to keep Davis Mills from scoring