Snap counts from Bucs game.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Some notable things. WR snap counts almost even (except Hardman). White slightly out snapped Hairston. 

[Brand J]

After Hairston played all 53 snaps against Miami and shadowed Waddle on 40 of 41 snaps, there’s absolutely no reason to platoon him and White. Coach can make this defense much faster and more aggressive with a few changes in personnel but he won’t do it. Poyer playing 80% of the snaps while the Bucs gash us is another issue - not entirely on him, of course, but the defense as a whole and its reluctance to go with youth. 

[hondo in seattle]

I hardly remember seeing Hairston, yet he played over half the snaps.  

 

Ray Davis only played one offensive snap and didn't get a carry.  Seems like his star is falling - as a RB, not as a returner.  

 

No WR played more than 54% of the snaps.  Brady's receiver packages are interesting.  

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, Brand J said:

After Hairston played all 53 snaps against Miami and shadowed Waddle on 40 of 41 snaps, there’s absolutely no reason to platoon him and White. Coach can make this defense much faster and more aggressive with a few changes in personnel but he won’t do it. Poyer playing 80% of the snaps while the Bucs gash us is another issue - not entirely on him, of course, but the defense as a whole and its reluctance to go with youth. 

Absolutely. And getting gashed by the run, in no world should Bosa be the leading DE in snap percentage. 

[noacls17]

3 minutes ago, Brand J said:

After Hairston played all 53 snaps against Miami and shadowed Waddle on 40 of 41 snaps, there’s absolutely no reason to platoon him and White. Coach can make this defense much faster and more aggressive with a few changes in personnel but he won’t do it. Poyer playing 80% of the snaps while the Bucs gash us is another issue - not entirely on him, of course, but the defense as a whole and its reluctance to go with youth. 

Is Hancock dinged again? That is only reason why I can think he is not taking snaps from Poyer. Poyer was very good at one time, that time has passed unfortunately.  

[zow2]

1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

I hardly remember seeing Hairston, yet he played over half the snaps.  

 

Ray Davis only played one offensive snap and didn't get a carry.  Seems like his star is falling - as a RB, not as a returner.  

 

No WR played more than 54% of the snaps.  Brady's receiver packages are interesting.  

 

 

 

For Hairston that's probably a good thing.  Maybe i missed it but I don't think I heard his name yesterday.  

 

Yeah seems like Ray is the 3rd string RB now.  He certainly did a nice job on his 8 special teams plays.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

17 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

I hardly remember seeing Hairston, yet he played over half the snaps.  

 

Ray Davis only played one offensive snap and didn't get a carry.  Seems like his star is falling - as a RB, not as a returner.  

 

No WR played more than 54% of the snaps.  Brady's receiver packages are interesting.  

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

For Hairston that's probably a good thing.  Maybe i missed it but I don't think I heard his name yesterday.  

 

Yeah seems like Ray is the 3rd string RB now.  He certainly did a nice job on his 8 special teams plays.

 

It's not a new thing though really.  He's been on the field for 73 total snaps this season, and has 24 carries for 44 yards.  20 of those 24 carries have been in games decided by 15 or more points.  

 

I don't think he's had a very good season on offense when called upon, but lets not act like he was "called upon" 24 times when in reality its just a bunch of garbage time carries for the most part.  I'd agree when he has been on the field this season the play hasn't been particularly positive or notable.  However, it's a position that requires some rhythm.

[Low Positive]

39 minutes ago, zow2 said:

 

For Hairston that's probably a good thing.  Maybe i missed it but I don't think I heard his name yesterday.  

 

Yeah seems like Ray is the 3rd string RB now.  He certainly did a nice job on his 8 special teams plays.

Imagine how mad you would be about those kick returns if you were a Bucs fan. There would be at least 3 threads on here about it. 

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, Brand J said:

Poyer playing 80% of the snaps while the Bucs gash us is another issue - not entirely on him, of course, but the defense as a whole and its reluctance to go with youth. 

Poyer made 15 tackles, the gashing happened in front of him.

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Some notable things. WR snap counts almost even (except Hardman). White slightly out snapped Hairston. 

Hairston outsnapped White, glad to see it and should be happening more/more as season goes on.  Im not a fan of platooning corners, unless there is a specific reason/matchup that dictates it.

 

Also nice to see J Phillips snaps go down.  Hes been a huge liability against the run.

 

Interesting how they handled TJ Sanders this week, soley at DE and no DT snaps.  Be curious if they continue this - im not a fan of it, considering his best ability is at 3 tech DT and he offers much less from a pass rush standpoint at DE/5 tech.  But maybe they think he can serve that Smoot type role

[BigAl2526]

59 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Hairston outsnapped White, glad to see it and should be happening more/more as season goes on.  Im not a fan of platooning corners, unless there is a specific reason/matchup that dictates it.

 

Also nice to see J Phillips snaps go down.  Hes been a huge liability against the run.

 

Interesting how they handled TJ Sanders this week, soley at DE and no DT snaps.  Be curious if they continue this - im not a fan of it, considering his best ability is at 3 tech DT and he offers much less from a pass rush standpoint at DE/5 tech.  But maybe they think he can serve that Smoot type role

The Bills are probably more shorthanded at DE than at tackle.  Until they can get another DE on the roster, using Sanders is probably what they'll do.  I have to say though, I don't know how much worse their run defense could have been had Jordan Phillips played more snaps

[kkim0904]

3 hours ago, Brand J said:

After Hairston played all 53 snaps against Miami and shadowed Waddle on 40 of 41 snaps, there’s absolutely no reason to platoon him and White. Coach can make this defense much faster and more aggressive with a few changes in personnel but he won’t do it. Poyer playing 80% of the snaps while the Bucs gash us is another issue - not entirely on him, of course, but the defense as a whole and its reluctance to go with youth. 

Bernard playing 100% of the snaps is more concerning on our run defense than anything.  In my opinion, Poyer brings more positive plays on the secondary after replacing Damar Hamlin and Taylor Rapp. Bishop plays much more comfortable when Poyer is on the field.  Our secondary plays at their best after Poyer joined.

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[WotAGuy]

2 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Interesting how they handled TJ Sanders this week, soley at DE and no DT snaps.  Be curious if they continue this - im not a fan of it, considering his best ability is at 3 tech DT and he offers much less from a pass rush standpoint at DE/5 tech.  But maybe they think he can serve that Smoot type role

Maybe he is just not very good at this stage and they are trying to see if he might help at a different position?  Did I hear correctly that D. Williams was coming in to replace Jones? Wouldn’t they use Sanders there if they thought he was any good?  I really don’t know, but just spitballing here. 
 

 

 

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[NickelCity]

3 hours ago, noacls17 said:

Is Hancock dinged again? That is only reason why I can think he is not taking snaps from Poyer. Poyer was very good at one time, that time has passed unfortunately.  

 

Only thing I can think of is they must really like how Poyer is impacting Bishop. I do agree that we need to get Hancock's feet wet asap, if we want to compete down the road. 

[TFBillsfan]

Samuel plays 28 snaps and gets hurt yet again. Two years of being unreliable with minimal impact. Rooting for the guy, but he’s made of glass. Even worse, I’m sure the bulk of those plays didn’t result in any contact. 

4 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

Only thing I can think of is they must really like how Poyer is impacting Bishop. I do agree that we need to get Hancock's feet wet asap, if we want to compete down the road. 

From general observation, Hancock still seems confused at times in passing situations. 

[Big Turk]

4 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

I hardly remember seeing Hairston, yet he played over half the snaps.  

 

Ray Davis only played one offensive snap and didn't get a carry.  Seems like his star is falling - as a RB, not as a returner.  

 

No WR played more than 54% of the snaps.  Brady's receiver packages are interesting.  

 

 

 

The only play I remember seeing Hairston is when he was just not able to get over in time to push Tucker out of bounds on that long TD run.

[NickelCity]

17 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

From general observation, Hancock still seems confused at times in passing situations. 

 That's fair. I should have added a potentially obvious possibility: that poyer is playing better in practice (and games) than Hancock.