2026 Cap

[corta765]

I was trying to understand what we can and cannot do with the cap in 2026 but I honestly do not fully get it. Knox & Samuel look like we can cut and gain 16.5, but the rest of the guys I cannot figure out where the space can be created (I Know it exists somehow).

 

Is there anyone who is a capologist who can explain what our most likely moves are?

[strive_for_five_guy]

You had me at cut Samuel and gain money

[Kirby Jackson]

I am no capologist but was messing around on there last night. I expect Milano, Knox, Taron, Jones and Samuel to all be gone. A couple of them will carry a post-June 1 designation. 
 

edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too

Edited 1 hour ago by Kirby Jackson

[Low Positive]

Who cares? The Pats have 60 million in cap space before they release or restructure anyone. We're screwed. 

[aristocrat]

Restructure Josh gives us 20 mil. Post June 1 cuts help. I got to 38 mil pretty easily 

[thenorthremembers]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I am no capologist but was messing around on there last night. I expect Milano, Knox, Taron, Jones and Samuel to all be gone. A couple of them will carry a post-June 1 designation. 

 

They cant cut or trade Milano or Jones because next year is a void year.  They will be paying them to sit at home or play somewhere else.   They owe them what they owe them regardless.   Knox, Taron, Samuel, Rapp will all be cut or traded.   Another one to watch for is Oliver.  Trading or cutting him will save the team 15 million.   Those 5 moves will get them near 50 million in space. 

4 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Who cares? The Pats have 60 million in cap space before they release or restructure anyone. We're screwed. 

 

Lets wait and see what the Patriots look like when they play a 1st place schedule.  I wouldnt throw next year away just yet. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I think we have projected 7.9 right now.

 

We can roll some 2025 into 2026 as well.

 

Knox saves 10ish 

Milano is on the books regardless for 11 🤮

 

Samuel saves a little over 6.

Johnson just under 2.

 

Josh restructure

Ed

Dawkins 

Brown

 

Some of the new contracts from this summer, but you want to pick and choose who we kick the can down the road on. 

 

 

 

[corta765]

6 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Who cares? The Pats have 60 million in cap space before they release or restructure anyone. We're screwed. 

Yea that is a loser attitude to the max. I am not thrilled with the current situation, but with a new GM I would be very excited what we can do and even with Beane if he has to stay I want to see how they fix this.

[Big Turk]

11 minutes ago, corta765 said:

I was trying to understand what we can and cannot do with the cap in 2026 but I honestly do not fully get it. Knox & Samuel look like we can cut and gain 16.5, but the rest of the guys I cannot figure out where the space can be created (I Know it exists somehow).

 

Is there anyone who is a capologist who can explain what our most likely moves are?

 

You can go to either Spotrac or OverTheCap and play around with things in there that will allow you to manage things and cut players, etc...

[ngbills]

These extensions are starting to look bad - Milano, Knox, Bernard, Benford, Rousseau, Oliver, Johnson and even Shakir. The Cook deal is one of the best and they resisted doing it. Imagine this a O right now without Cook. They knew going into the season what the plan was and still treated Cook like an interchangeable piece. The cap mngt, free agents, trade deadlines make me wonder what beane is doing. 

Edited 2 hours ago by ngbills

[corta765]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

You can go to either Spotrac or OverTheCap and play around with things in there that will allow you to manage things and cut players, etc...

I only show 2025, no 2026 on Spotrac. I will try OverTheCap

[jahnyc]

We will have a lot of holes to fill after this season with expiring contracts and cuts that will need to be made, particularly on defense at DE, DT and linebacker.

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

They cant cut or trade Milano or Jones because next year is a void year.  They will be paying them to sit at home or play somewhere else.   They owe them what they owe them regardless.   Knox, Taron, Samuel, Rapp will all be cut or traded.   Another one to watch for is Oliver.  Trading or cutting him will save the team 15 million.   Those 5 moves will get them near 50 million in space. 

 

Lets wait and see what the Patriots look like when they play a 1st place schedule.  I wouldnt throw next year away just yet. 

I forgot about Rapp. If they designate Jones and Milano as post June 1 that opens up about $7M. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

 

I am with you on retooling for next year. The Bills have a chance to reshape this roster with significant turnover but without significant drop off. Hawes will fill the Knox role. Taron has lost a step and Cam/Hancock can fill in adequately. Milano never plays. Bernard can move into that slot and get a bigger body in the middle. Jones is a rotational guy in an area where, if healthy, they have a lot of bodies. Rapp and Samuel are easily replaced.

[dorquemada]

The issue being that Beane continues to give over market contracts to C+/B- players that we're then saddled with for years.  His drafts are bad for 2 reasons.  He's hyperfixated on D, and the players he drafts on D aren't making an impact.  Make it make sense

[dollars 2 donuts]

12 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Who cares? The Pats have 60 million in cap space before they release or restructure anyone. We're screwed. 

 

 

This is something I tried to mention before to anyone who would listen.

 

I was told it was no biggie and that the cap is a myth.

 

Even if true, isn't it an even bigger myth when you have $60 million?

 

 

[Billz4ever]

9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

They cant cut or trade Milano or Jones because next year is a void year.  They will be paying them to sit at home or play somewhere else.   They owe them what they owe them regardless.   Knox, Taron, Samuel, Rapp will all be cut or traded.   Another one to watch for is Oliver.  Trading or cutting him will save the team 15 million.   Those 5 moves will get them near 50 million in space. 

 

Lets wait and see what the Patriots look like when they play a 1st place schedule.  I wouldnt throw next year away just yet. 

 

I love Ed. He plays great when he's in there, but he's basically the Kincaid of the defense. Just can't seem to stay on the field.

Edited 2 hours ago by Billz4ever

[Low Positive]

7 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Yea that is a loser attitude to the max. I am not thrilled with the current situation, but with a new GM I would be very excited what we can do and even with Beane if he has to stay I want to see how they fix this.

To the max? As if! Things are just like grody right now in B-lo and totally bitchin' in Bean Town. Gag me with a spoon!

[TheyCallMeAndy]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I forgot about Rapp. If they designate Jones and Milano as post June 1 that opens up about $7M. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

 

I am with you on retooling for next year. The Bills have a chance to reshape this roster with significant turnover but without significant drop off. Hawes will fill the Knox role. Taron has lost a step and Cam/Hancock can fill in adequately. Milano never plays. Bernard can move into that slot and get a bigger body in the middle. Jones is a rotational guy in an area where, if healthy, they have a lot of bodies. Rapp and Samuel are easily replaced.

I love every part of this

[Big Turk]

It looks like they could free up about 23 million next year by designating Samuel and Knox as post June-1st cuts and also cutting Rapp who is in the last year of his deal next year, but since they are already almost 4 million over the cap next year, we would only have about $19 million to work with.

 

Assuming there would be some other restructures and/or moves involved. 

 

Have 5 void years hitting next year as well eating up cap space if we don't move to re-work those in Milano, Jones, Bosa, Epenesa, and McGovern. Would expect McGovern, Epenesa and Bosa to look to be extended... that would help lower those cap hits of roughly $15-16 million combined.  Milano and Jones are likely not returning and we are going to have to eat the cap hits of about $15 million total on them.

 

So we have some levers to pull but we will have to work around some things.

Edited 1 hour ago by Big Turk

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

I love Ed. He plays great when he's in there, but he's basically the Kincaid of the defense. Just can't seem to stay on the field.

 

I love what he brings to the defense.  The problem with Ed is he isnt consistently great.   He's had a few dominant years here and there.   To your point he hasnt played a full season in 4 years.   I'd love to have him here but not at 20 million dollars a year.