McDermott statement in presser is telling concerning our offense

[HamptonBillsfan]

12 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

NE was mainly turnovers.  They moved the ball very well.  Atl and Miami felt different.  They wanted to attack outside out of spread looks.  By doing so they nurfed their run game and became one dimensional.  I dont understand how you come out of KC and decided not to keep that going.   

The problem was the team came out flat as a pancake with no energy and sadly that falls on the HC. He’s watching the offense go 3 and out against a team that is poor defensively four times and looks lost. Can he even try to get in the face of O-lineman that are being dominated by Miami’s D~line. He’s furiously screaming at halfhearted efforts by LBs and secondary players to wrap up ball carriers. This should a given for a team with championship aspirations. Julian is it on your on the on your you know that what do they call that thing that portal oh *****

[Buffalo Ballin]

We had a prime Stefon Diggs.

Then we had an unknown Gabe Davis where the NFL didn't know how to game plan against.

Also, we had sugar high Josh forcing passes to them.

 

Of course, we were humming at that time.

 

All blame leads to McD and Beane.

 

[BillsVet]

29 minutes ago, Luka said:

McDaniel alluded to it coming out of the locker room in the 2nd half. Miami played the run and dared us to beat them downfield and we could not do it. We were unprepared for it. This is what happens when you play a team with nothing to lose. If we beat them deep well that would be the expected outcome no harm, no foul on McDaniel's part, they are 2-7. But if it works (like it did) well then he looks like a genius and the Bills drag their sorry asses back to Buffalo with their tails between their legs. 

 

Not much different than Baltimore last season.  Stop the run, and Buffalo can't beat you downfield with those WRs.  Forced the trade for Cooper and then the offense started working again.  Amazing how adding a WR alleviated issues.  

 

26 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

"What we have hear is failure to communicate, some men you can not reach"

 

What's your dirt doing in Boss Kane's ditch...Sean?  

[Sierra Foothills]

1 minute ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Julian is it on your on the on your you know that what do they call that thing that portal oh *****

 

Voice to text?

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

The best our offense has looked this year is when we played with tempo. I’m assuming everyone on the team feels that way you can visually see the change in body language. It was what we did against Baltimore, it’s the only thing that worked yesterday, it was here and there trying to get caught back up and it was effective at times before the end of halves. Even the run has been better with tempo. I’d say kill the long, slow monotonous drives and start playing with some urgency. It’s absolutely when Josh plays his best. You have to live with the risk of a mistake but it gives us back the sharpness 

[GunnerBill]

33 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

The Bills didnt attack using their run game at all.  The pass splits out of shotgun are incredibly low.  Why be one dimensional by formation on first and second down?  Pass from under center.  Regular drop back. It doesn't have to be play-action because by formation the defense is preparing for a run.  The run game or threat of it is real.  Out of shotgun it goes away.  

 

Josh is not a big fan of passing under centre. He prefers to be in shotgun. That isn't unusual Peyton Manning was the same. 

[dorquemada]

16 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

The front office really needs a smack in the back of the head. So many absolutely wasted picks on defense over the years and only a single attempt to bring in a playmaker on the outside. And that attempt has been a massive bust save for about 1 game and a couple plays here and there. Why rely on trading for a guy? Why not have your scouts do their job and have the GM address the glaring hole on this team? I see teams across the NFL that have not 1 but 2 (!) high level receivers on their rosters and all we can muster is a couple slot guys and a deep threat that's never won a foot race in his life? 

 

At this point it really is a joke. 

 

It's boogie bashams all the way down

[HamptonBillsfan]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Voice to text?

 

Thanks, I’m still waking up. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

33 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Who is fighting it is my question.  Is it Josh not liking to pass from under center?  If so gotta get used to it right now.  His numbers and metrics are very good when he does. 

I suspect last game it was Brady. This is me guessing— but I think they thought they could beat Miami’s corners with our receivers and so it was a good game to try to get our receivers going.
 

Well, our receivers still stink, Miami’s corners outplayed them, and the bills just needed to go back to their bread and butter of heavy personnel and running. (They actually did later and it worked, but then we had the pick and fumble).

[BCAS Baritone]

2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The best our offense has looked this year is when we played with tempo. I’m assuming everyone on the team feels that way you can visually see the change in body language. It was what we did against Baltimore, it’s the only thing that worked yesterday, it was here and there trying to get caught back up and it was effective at times before the end of halves. Even the run has been better with tempo. I’d say kill the long, slow monotonous drives and start playing with some urgency. It’s absolutely when Josh plays his best. You have to live with the risk of a mistake but it gives us back the sharpness 

Playing with tempo requires you to put your best 11 on the field and keep them on the field for the whole drive.  You can't have mass substitutions on every play, because then the defense must have the opportunity to make their own subs.  But not allowing the offense to sub takes one of the joysticks away from the OC, and we can't have that.

 

Plus our best 11 is 13 personnel, which with Kincaid out has to be 12 or 22 personnel.  It's stone age but it can work.  I remember an AFL playoff game, Raiders-Chiefs, and the Chiefs ran out of the straight T formation the entire game and threw only 2 passes.  The weather was fine that day, so it's not like that was the excuse - they just decided to pound the rock and it worked.  Might not work week in and week out, but against a banged up defense like the Dolphins had it should have been dominant.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Not much different than Baltimore last season.  Stop the run, and Buffalo can't beat you downfield with those WRs.  Forced the trade for Cooper and then the offense started working again.  Amazing how adding a WR alleviated issues.  

 

 

What's your dirt doing in Boss Kane's ditch...Sean?  

 

Cooper had 16 catches in 7 games for us.

 

The 2 games he missed with us, we scored 30.  He got hurt in the Seahawks game in the 3rd, one catch for 3 yards.

Our offense picked up was not because of Amari Cooper.

[bmur66]

Josh Allen needs a head coach with a brilliant offensive mind. He needs to use his arm and score points. None of this complimentary BS with the defense. This is like running 87 octane fuel in a Ferrari.

[Disgusted ills fan]

57 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

We have Marty Schottenheimer and Ted Thompson running the show.

 

Sean McDermott is the Marvin Lewis of Marty Schottenheimers.  I am so done with McClappy and his late-night drive-thru manager at a Taco Bell-type glasses that he thinks make him look smarter.  Should've ditched him after 13 seconds and Beane after the Kaiir Elam pick.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I really don't care what McDermott says in his pressers. I don't care what Brady says in his. 

 

It doesn't take much to know that this offense is broken. Just watch the games. Now, I know somebody is going to quote me with their "Well, ACTUALLY" type comment and throw some snazzy metrics/analytics the "prove" this offense is just dandy. And I will preemptively say to them..."WATCH THE GAME"

 

Everything the Bills do on offense, even on "good" days looks so hard for them to do. It relies too much on Josh running around and "hoping" he can turn chicken 💩 into chicken salad. There are no "bread and butter" type played that they know can grab them a few extra yards. There are no easy throws designed to get Allen in a rhythm. And it's almost like Brady looks at what works and what players do well and says, nope, that's too easy. 

 

Far too often on third down for example, let's get Cook out of the game. Let's not let Josh roll out to his right where he can make plays choosing  to run or throw. Nope. You get Ty Johnson and stand tall in the pocket. And if Shakir can't get open over the middle, we punt. It's the "Make a Wish-nowsky" offense.

 

We have James Cook. We have Shakir short. We have Kincaid when healthy. Then we handicap Allen by removing Cook and any threat of a run on third downs. We remove Kincaid due to load management. And we ask Allen to put on the cape and make something happen. 

 

Bottom line is, yesterday, Brady and his offense got clowned by a defense that has been routinely torched all year, started Walmart greeters at CB and hasn't stopped the run all year. Yes, I know there isn't much to work with at the WR position. But every week I see players of the same talent level of Samuel, Moore and even Shavers make plays because they are schemed open with quick and easy routes. But Brady can't do that. 

 

I seriously think they need to pass the play calling sheet to someone new. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, bmur66 said:

Josh Allen needs a head coach with a brilliant offensive mind. He needs to use his arm and score points. None of this complimentary BS with the defense. This is like running 87 octane fuel in a Ferrari.

McDermott laments how he would prefer the "Wishbone" attack perfected by colleges such as Oklahoma in the 1970's.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

3 minutes ago, BCAS Baritone said:

Playing with tempo requires you to put your best 11 on the field and keep them on the field for the whole drive.  You can't have mass substitutions on every play, because then the defense must have the opportunity to make their own subs.  But not allowing the offense to sub takes one of the joysticks away from the OC, and we can't have that.

 

Plus our best 11 is 13 personnel, which with Kincaid out has to be 12 or 22 personnel.  It's stone age but it can work.  I remember an AFL playoff game, Raiders-Chiefs, and the Chiefs ran out of the straight T formation the entire game and threw only 2 passes.  The weather was fine that day, so it's not like that was the excuse - they just decided to pound the rock and it worked.  Might not work week in and week out, but against a banged up defense like the Dolphins had it should have been dominant.

Yesterday was rough but I’m not worried about the offense. The offense actually has earned the benefit of the doubt from me. They have been excellent for 6 now and they can course correct. The problem with this team has remained since 2018. The defense absolutely sucks. There’s no way I’ll ever think that can change again. There was a two week turnaround where I actually felt hope but then a team just said enough and showed us the flaw. We are never going to win with this scheme. There is way to much nickel, the MLB is way to small and we are setting edges from way to far away. Unless this coach gets fired or told directly you are no longer allowed near this defense, we will never win. This guy has wasted the entire prime of the best player we ever had and there seems to be no end in sight. The offense will be fine. But we have an expiration date as usual because of the coach and his defense 

[Jerome007]

53 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

It would be one thing if we were using the running game to set up the pass. 

 

But we aren't even doing that, lol. We use the run game and it either works or it doesn't. And then we pass and hope for the best...

Sad but true. Josh had killer stats with playaction in his first years, and they had no running game back then! They have now and don't max it out.

[Yobogoya!]

4 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Sad but true. Josh had killer stats with playaction in his first years, and they had no running game back then! They have now and don't max it out.

 

Yeah this boggles me mind, just like letting Josh scramble and utilize a downfield passing attack. 

 

They took all the things he was best at and then created an offense that's the complete opposite even when it works. It's criminal. 

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:

Sad but true. Josh had killer stats with playaction in his first years, and they had no running game back then! They have now and don't max it out.

 

PA with Josh is effective but he doesn't like being under center. He doesn't like turning his back to the D. And even using PA here is nothing open deep. Three times yesterday they called deep PA shots and Josh checked down to Cook. 

[PoundingDog]

They are kind of in a uncertain state. When Cook does not have a run of 5 yards, they go to pass the next play. Even I can tell from the stands. Look at Miami yesterday, McDaniel stuck on the runs even the first one was not successful and came back with a different run with a different runner. Of course he knew run defense is Bills big weakness.

 

When Josh goes to pass, it is either throw behind the LoS or going down field - more like crossing patterns to TE lately. I guess you can do the WCO stuff by throwing short on 2nd down or with play action. But it's not working. I thought we have short area quick separation guys, including Coleman. Either Brady is not calling it or Josh does not like the quick WCO type of passing game, timing patterns.

 

Even the greatest QB has weakness. Last week the Bills openly said Mahomes does not like structured plays so they hemmed him in, even when he moves, with a hemming in structure by rushing guys. Look at the result. Allen is more of a visual guy, may not "trust" someone easily by throwing a ball to an area blindly in a timing pattern (like Tua is known for).