The Bills were high bidders for Waddle, tried acquiring Williams

[SCBills]

Wait…. So if we gave a 2026 1st the deal gets done?   But Beane wouldn’t budge on it being 2027. 
 

I swear, if this dude pulls some “we only had 11 first round grades” trade back nonsense after this. 
 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by SCBills

[Wayne Cubed]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That’s what I’m thinking, beane should also know that this trade would never get done so he can say he tried but it would make more sense to releas the “I tried” details from like an olave deal, at least that isn’t absurd.

 

Yea, it’s just 2 trades that were never realistic options being in division.

[Donuts and Doritos]

So our plan was to obtain trades in division. Great plan. Shocked it didn't work.

[RunTheBall]

9 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Only way that makes sense is if he’s just straight up lying to the media about the offer which I doubt he is cuz they probably have other sources 

 

the waddle offer was a really good deal that they easily could’ve taken and I’d argue probably should’ve taken tbh.   
 

if it was a ‘make a kinda weak offer just to say you did something’ it woulda been much smaller than that 

I think you misread my post.

 

I believe the offer was made. I also said I thought it was too rich of an offer, so I wasn’t making any argument that Beane was making a weak trade offer

 

I think this was a Bills PR move considering that and the Williams trade attempt info came out at the same time. That came from the Bills 

 

[transient]

Someone check the exact wording… are we sure he wasn’t offering a 1st and a 3rd for a receiver with a waddle because, even with that impediment, he would be able to separate better than Coleman?

[Buffaloflash]

14 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Waddle and Storm Duck were a package deal 

Hahaha, That's a good one!

[Wayne Cubed]

 

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Idk releasing info that your division rival was desperate for a player and you turned them down in the lead up to your game against them seems like it would give the dolphins some juice and maybe have the bills doubting themselves a bit tbh.  Don’t know what the dolphins gain by not releasing it 

2027 1st round pick doesn’t scream of desperation. A 2026 maybe does, and the Dolphins turn that down. To me if they do that, that says to Dolphins fans look we are committed to Waddle. 
 

A 2027 1st, because it’s high, is a look we tried offer.

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[Mikie2times]

The Beane PR machine. He has every BLO reporter basically banned from the facility if they write something negative. Annual 2 week Beane tour in the postseason where he talks about drafting Josh and smells his farts with Pat McAfee. Then the standard narrative shifting leak we see today. The whole big baller Beane or image of him looking slick in his shades is more PR. Paper thin skin, insecure, etc. 

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[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

2027 1st round pick doesn’t scream of desperation. A 2026 maybe does, and the Dolphins turn that down. To me if they do that, that says to Dolphins fans look we are committed to Waddle. 
 

A 2027 1st, because it’s high, is a look we tried offer.

2026 third also…I gotta disagree with you here I think that’s a strategic overpay for waddle tbh.  Miami turned it down for the optics of it which is gonna hurt them long term imo.  I don’t think they want to admit to fans they’ve gotta blow it all up 

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[Ya Digg?]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

The Beane PR machine. He has every BLO reporter basically banned from the facility if the write something negative. Annual 2 week Beane tour in the postseason where he talks about drafting Josh and smells his farts with Pat McAfee. Then the standard narrative shifting leak we see today. The whole big baller Beane or image of him looking slick in his shades is more PR. Paper thin skin, insecure, etc. 

wait I’m confused-are you describing Beane or about 95% of the people on this board? 

[mannc]

12 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

2027 1st round pick doesn’t scream of desperation. A 2026 maybe does, and the Dolphins turn that down. To me if they do that, that says to Dolphins fans look we are committed to Waddle. 
 

A 2027 1st, because it’s high, is a look we tried offer.

The Bills’ 2026 first round pick is a seriously devalued asset.  It’s worth only slightly more than a second round pick from a lesser team, and FAR less than a first from someone like Dallas.  Waddle for the Bills’ 2026 first round pick would be a steal.

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[Generic_Bills_Fan]

13 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

I think you misread my post.

 

I believe the offer was made. I also said I thought it was too rich of an offer, so I wasn’t making any argument that Beane was making a weak trade offer

 

I think this was a Bills PR move considering that and the Williams trade attempt info came out at the same time. That came from the Bills 

 

How is that even a pr ‘move’? You’re saying he made a legitimate competitive offer for a good receiver but are just complaining that a team presumably the bills told you about it? 

 

like if we were accusing him of telling the media ‘I tried to get waddle’ and his offer was actually too weak to be taken seriously im totally on board with that being a controversy/save face pr move type thing.  Not even sure what the issue is here though 

[FireChans]

39 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

If THAT was the actual sticking point - Beane sucks at his job.

I’m a notorious Beane “hater” but I think that’s kinda classic negotiating. 
 

You agree on a 2026 first and then it’s a second instead of a third.

 

I think Beane just made an offer and held it. No guarantee the 2026 first counter offer is the final deal.

14 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

2027 1st round pick doesn’t scream of desperation. A 2026 maybe does, and the Dolphins turn that down. To me if they do that, that says to Dolphins fans look we are committed to Waddle. 
 

A 2027 1st, because it’s high, is a look we tried offer.

When was the last time we stood pat at our 1st round pick instead of moving around the board because the value wasn’t right?

 

2021 probably?

[Wayne Cubed]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

When was the last time we stood pat at our 1st round pick instead of moving around the board because the value wasn’t right?

 

2021 probably?

It’s been a while that’s for sure.

[Mikie2times]

9 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

wait I’m confused-are you describing Beane or about 95% of the people on this board? 

Both, I just find it humorous that he's crafted his image into this cool, calculated, chess player. When he is simultaneously calling up PFF and complaining they graded his moves unfairly. It's not what's real, its what people think is real.   

[SCBills]

Waddle is a mid-level WR1 with elite speed. 
 

Hes also on a contract that isn’t crazy, but isn’t a rookie contract, so it’s a financial investment as well. 
 

To get a WR comparable in potential (and it’s always potential) it probably costs us more than our 1st and 3rd to move up and grab one. 
 

Of course.. if the guy is as good or better than Waddle, he’s on a rookie contract for 4 years plus the option.   And it obviously doesn’t help us this year. 
 

If a 2026 1st and 3rd gets it done, I would’ve done that.   Maybe don’t extend a Terrel Bernard and we don’t have to worry as much about the financial implications of a proven WR contract.  
 

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[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, babulator said:

Beane was trying.

 

I tried to date Claudia Schiffer. Asking people who are definitely going to say no isn't much of a strategy. Ha. 

 

But at the same time glad he made the calls. Just they were really low percentage hail marys.

4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

It’s been a while that’s for sure.

 

2025. 

[FireChans]

7 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

It’s been a while that’s for sure.

Now that I think about it, we stood pat for Max this year I think lol.

 

the point remains though. High chance we don’t have a first round grade at our pick.

[Mat68]

Buffalo had the highest offer.  No reason to outbid yourself.  As reported earlier both Jets and Miami were ultimately unwilling to trade with Buffalo.   I think thats a fair account of what happened.  Beane came off angry and frustrated.  Sounds like they were very close to a deal for Waddle and Miami backed out in the 11th hour.  While finalizing a deal for Waddle they missed out on Shaheed and Meyers.   

[Wayne Cubed]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Now that I think about it, we stood pat for Max this year I think lol.

 

the point remains though. High chance we don’t have a first round grade at our pick.

No probably not. I’m not arguing against it. This just feels like a PR move from the Bills/Beane.