Bills PR team working overtime for Sean

[Dan Darragh]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/with-next-win-sean-mcdemott-will-be-sixth-coach-with-100-in-first-nine-seasons

 

Dumbest article ever, trying to cement Sean's place in the "pantheon" of great coaches.

 

What the person who wrote this doesn't know (why would they?) is that the NFL season was only 12 games until 1960 (Paul Brown's era) and was only 14 games from 1961-1977.  The 17th game was only added in 2021, which the PR team apparently knew.   And until the Superbowl era (1967) there were no playoffs, just a championship game between the two conference winners.  So Paul Brown would have coached no more than 13 games in any season.  In Sean's era, it would be 20 games assuming he went to a Superbowl, which he would have done if he was properly one of the 6 greatest coaches ever.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

12 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/with-next-win-sean-mcdemott-will-be-sixth-coach-with-100-in-first-nine-seasons

 

Dumbest article ever, trying to cement Sean's place in the "pantheon" of great coaches.

 

What the person who wrote this doesn't know (why would they?) is that the NFL season was only 12 games until 1960 (Paul Brown's era) and was only 14 games from 1961-1977.  The 17th game was only added in 2021, which the PR team apparently knew.   And until the Superbowl era (1967) there were no playoffs, just a championship game between the two conference winners.  So Paul Brown would have coached no more than 13 games in any season.  In Sean's era, it would be 20 games assuming he went to a Superbowl, which he would have done if he was properly one of the 6 greatest coaches ever.

 

 

If it's such a nothing stat - than why isn't there more coaches in the modern era who can make the claim?

 

I get having issues with McDermott as a coach. But complaining that Mike Florio is reporting on a stat that puts him in rare air is kind of ridiculous. As is the idea that the Bills PR team is "working overtime" for this article. I highly doubt this is information that needed to be fed to Florio. This is the kind of stuff he reports on the daily.

[GunnerBill]

47 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/with-next-win-sean-mcdemott-will-be-sixth-coach-with-100-in-first-nine-seasons

 

Dumbest article ever, trying to cement Sean's place in the "pantheon" of great coaches.

 

 

 

If it was trying to do that it would indeed be a dumb article. But it isn't.

[davefan66]

3 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/with-next-win-sean-mcdemott-will-be-sixth-coach-with-100-in-first-nine-seasons

 

Dumbest article ever, trying to cement Sean's place in the "pantheon" of great coaches.

 

What the person who wrote this doesn't know (why would they?) is that the NFL season was only 12 games until 1960 (Paul Brown's era) and was only 14 games from 1961-1977.  The 17th game was only added in 2021, which the PR team apparently knew.   And until the Superbowl era (1967) there were no playoffs, just a championship game between the two conference winners.  So Paul Brown would have coached no more than 13 games in any season.  In Sean's era, it would be 20 games assuming he went to a Superbowl, which he would have done if he was properly one of the 6 greatest coaches ever.

 

 

 

How lucky are we that we can complain about a coach getting 100 wins this quick?

 

[Scott7975]

What a stupid thing to complain about. 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/with-next-win-sean-mcdemott-will-be-sixth-coach-with-100-in-first-nine-seasons

 

Dumbest article ever, trying to cement Sean's place in the "pantheon" of great coaches.

 

What the person who wrote this doesn't know (why would they?) is that the NFL season was only 12 games until 1960 (Paul Brown's era) and was only 14 games from 1961-1977.  The 17th game was only added in 2021, which the PR team apparently knew.   And until the Superbowl era (1967) there were no playoffs, just a championship game between the two conference winners.  So Paul Brown would have coached no more than 13 games in any season.  In Sean's era, it would be 20 games assuming he went to a Superbowl, which he would have done if he was properly one of the 6 greatest coaches ever.

 

Did you even read the article?  Florio never never said that.  He even acknowledged that he benefited from a 17 game regular season schedule and the playoffs are what matters the most for McDermott.    

 

However, let's give them one loss a year for the last five years.  He'd still accomplish this feat if he went 12-5 this year.  Two things can be true at once.  He's a very good regular season coach and has created a winning culture for this team since he got here in 2017.  He specializes in defense and this defense has let us down five years straight in the playoff losses against Mahomes (4x) and Burrow (1x).  This is just another thread in the endless McDermott conundrum talk and none of it matters because Pegula isn't firing McDermott any time soon.

Edited 6 hours ago by Doc Brown

[Sierra Foothills]

Even though the original post includes playoff wins, it got me to thinking which NFL HC got to 100 wins in the fewest regular season games:

 

Don Shula 137 Colts/Dolphins

George Seifert 141 49ers

Joe Gibbs 146 Redskins

Tony Dungy 148 Buccaneers/Colts

John Madden 150 Raiders

Vince Lombardi 151 Packers

Mike Holmgren 154 Packers/Seahawks

Mike Tomlin 157 Steelers

Bill Cowher 158 Steelers

Paul Brown 160 Browns

 

If McDermott wins tomorrow he'll have 93 wins in 140 games. Unless the Bills run the table he won't reach 100 wins this season. At his current regular season winning percentage (.661) he'll need 10 or 11 more games to reach 100 which would put him at 150-151 games.

 

If McDermott doesn't win the 2026 Super Bowl he'll be the only one in the top 10 without a Super Bowl win as a head coach.

 

Finally, Andy Reid is the only HC with over 100 wins with 2 different teams... and Reid finally won a Super Bowl in his 21st season as a head coach.

 

[Dan Darragh]

4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

I highly doubt this is information that needed to be fed to Florio. This is the kind of stuff he reports on the daily.

Right, I bet Mike just sits there wondering "How does Sean stack up against the greatest coaches of all time?"

A cynic (who, me???) might ask if McD is even the greatest Sean coaching in the league right now.

 

 

Consider that he plays 4 games a year against the Fish and the Jets, who are a combined 109-172 during Sean's tenure.  And if you add in the post-Brady Patriots, it's even more skewed.

Edited 5 hours ago by Dan Darragh

[GunnerBill]

43 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Right, I bet Mike just sits there wondering "How does Sean stack up against the greatest coaches of all time?"

A cynic (who, me???) might ask if McD is even the greatest Sean coaching in the league right now.

 

 

Consider that he plays 4 games a year against the Fish and the Jets, who are a combined 109-172 during Sean's tenure.  And if you add in the post-Brady Patriots, it's even more skewed.

 

It isn't skewed. Because all Head Coaches who are coaches for a long time play against bad teams plenty. Tampa were mainly incompetent during Payton's run with the Saints for example. 

 

The article isn't doing what you claim it is and the rest is just digs at McDermott because you don't like him.

[Dan Darragh]

40 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

the rest is just digs at McDermott because you don't like him.

Actually, I'm not a "fire McD" guy but any Bills fan with a pulse would have to confess some disappointment with him.  It's not the "zero Superbowls" thing, it's that with a "defense-minded coach" we've had way too many games where we couldn't get a stop on third down, especially with all the draft capital we've invested on defense.  

 

And I may have said this once or twice (or maybe 15 times) - I think his biggest failure is NOT 13 seconds, but his failure to be accountable for 13 seconds.  It was clearly a coaching meltdown in several aspects, yet he's never owned it or told us why it won't ever happen again.

 

So I think he's a guy who's got a damaged public persona, and some geek with a new HP calculator found a way to put him on the same list as Paul Brown.  It sounds pretty lame to me.

 

Still, I don't buy the "fire McD" approach, partly because so many new coaches fail and partly because I'm a Sabres fan too and I've seen what happens when Terry gets to hire folks.

Edited 4 hours ago by Dan Darragh

[Matt_In_NH]

It must suck to walk around trying to find the most negative way to look at everything. 

[Dan Darragh]

1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

It must suck to walk around trying to find the most negative way to look at everything. 

Try living where I live for a while.

[Matt_In_NH]

Just now, Dan Darragh said:

Try living where I live for a while.

No idea what that means but you can choose how to look at things no matter the situation. 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Actually, I'm not a "fire McD" guy but any Bills fan with a pulse would have to confess some disappointment with him.  It's not the "zero Superbowls" thing, it's that with a "defense-minded coach" we've had way too many games where we couldn't get a stop on third down, especially with all the draft capital we've invested on defense.  

 

And I may have said this once or twice (or maybe 15 times) - I think his biggest failure is NOT 13 seconds, but his failure to be accountable for 13 seconds.  It was clearly a coaching meltdown in several aspects, yet he's never owned it or told us why it won't ever happen again.

 

So I think he's a guy who's got a damaged public persona, and some geek with a new HP calculator found a way to put him on the same list as Paul Brown.  It sounds pretty lame to me.

 

Still, I don't buy the "fire McD" approach, partly because so many new coaches fail and partly because I'm a Sabres fan too and I've seen what happens when Terry gets to hire folks.

 

There are some legitimate criticisms to make of McDermott. Some of which you allude to in your first para. But your contention in the OP is still completely wrong. Nobody is trying to cement him in a pantheon of great coaches.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Did you even read the article?  Florio never never said that.  He even acknowledged that he benefited from a 17 game regular season schedule and the playoffs are what matters the most for McDermott.    

 

However, let's give them one loss a year for the last five years.  He'd still accomplish this feat if he went 12-5 this year.  Two things can be true at once.  He's a very good regular season coach and has created a winning culture for this team since he got here in 2017.  He specializes in defense and this defense has let us down five years straight in the playoff losses against Mahomes (4x) and Burrow (1x).  This is just another thread in the endless McDermott conundrum talk and none of it matters because Pegula isn't firing McDermott any time soon.

Fans are in for a big let down if the Bills don’t make it to the SB and McDermott is still here next year. I am taking a “wait and see” approach. It’s not only if they lose, but how they lose. Regardless, I am a realist. The Pegulas and Josh Allen love McDermott. That’s why I think we are stuck with him for a while. It would take something truly catastrophic for him to lose his job. 

Edited 4 hours ago by ChronicAndKnuckles

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

It must suck to walk around trying to find the most negative way to look at everything. 

Yes, the measures people will go through to discredit McDermott is almost laughable. 

[Slack_in_MA]

[Billsflyer12]

I have a hard time finding anything I personally like or respect about Sean in any way.  I would bet a lot of $ he won’t win a Super Bowl with the Bills and have shown a lot of data to why over the years.

 

Yet,

 

Even I think this is kind of a nothing burger.

 

 

[eball]

Hey look! A trash McD thread!

 

Happy Sunday! Go Bills!

 

[JDHillFan]

1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

Actually, I'm not a "fire McD" guy but any Bills fan with a pulse would have to confess some disappointment with him.  It's not the "zero Superbowls" thing, it's that with a "defense-minded coach" we've had way too many games where we couldn't get a stop on third down, especially with all the draft capital we've invested on defense.  

 

And I may have said this once or twice (or maybe 15 times) - I think his biggest failure is NOT 13 seconds, but his failure to be accountable for 13 seconds.  It was clearly a coaching meltdown in several aspects, yet he's never owned it or told us why it won't ever happen again.

 

So I think he's a guy who's got a damaged public persona, and some geek with a new HP calculator found a way to put him on the same list as Paul Brown.  It sounds pretty lame to me.

 

Still, I don't buy the "fire McD" approach, partly because so many new coaches fail and partly because I'm a Sabres fan too and I've seen what happens when Terry gets to hire folks.

I HATE the Bills PR team!! Not watching the game today in protest.