BillsPride12 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: The second Cowboy team was stoppable and still lament way that first half went. We had them on the ropes but Kelly and the offense couldn't cash in a TD before the half ended so we had to settle on the FG and make it a 7 point lead when it could have been 11. Therefore Thurman's fumble that lead to the Cowboys next TD in the 2nd half may not have been as "devastating". Yet it is what it is, I am proud they made it but sure hurts they lost all 4 but that was then and this is now. I hope KC doesn't make 4 in row so can claim our Bills did something that likely never happen again. It's funny because I was pretty young during the Super Bowl runs and my memories/perception was always the Bills getting smoked by the Cowboys in both of those games but when you look back at the 2nd Cowboys game the upset was there for the taking. I watched the Cowboys documentary on Netflix and didn't really remember or maybe was never aware that there was already alot of turmoil and dysfunction within that Cowboys team at that time and the Bills should have been there for the taking in that one. Quote
US Egg Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I look back fondly on the players of those SB teams, along with Bill Polian. 2 Quote
Returntoglory Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: The Bills being the only team to have ever done it.....is it a point of pride for a Bills fan? Is it an important record even though the Bills lost all 4? The Chiefs have a chance to tie that record if they were to make it again this season. Besides the obvious...if KC makes a 4th in a row, it means the Bills didn't make it this year......but aside from that.....having that record be shared with another team make you mad? Relieved? Indifferent? It's never been a point of pride for me. Losing is not an option! Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) I personally don't care about that record. I think the run of 7 straight championship game appearances by KC is what is truly impressive. They've earned it. The issue I have with KC is just that McDermott traded Mahomes to them. I recognized the Chiefs as a rival of the Bills at the time. The Bills/Chiefs matchups since Reid had arrived had become key, season altering losses for the Bills significantly dashing the Bills wild card hopes. Talent wise there wasn't much discrepency thru those Marrone/Rex years. But then a new guy(McD) comes in and trying to be clever he hand delivers a franchise QB to his old pal coach who had spent most of the prior 20 years learning every way to lose in the playoffs. Reid was one more Alex Smith playoff exit from "it's time for a change" in KC. McDermott changed all that. Reid really should thank him during his HoF speech. Edited 6 hours ago by BADOLBILZ 1 Quote
Puckman5 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: The Bills being the only team to have ever done it.....is it a point of pride for a Bills fan? Is it an important record even though the Bills lost all 4? The Chiefs have a chance to tie that record if they were to make it again this season. Besides the obvious...if KC makes a 4th in a row, it means the Bills didn't make it this year......but aside from that.....having that record be shared with another team make you mad? Relieved? Indifferent? it's like bringing home the hottest woman you could possibly imagine, only to find out she's got junk bigger than yours taped half way up her backside. There's no relief in anything either of us described. Just a ton of excitement followed by tragedy and horror. 4 Quote
US Egg Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: But then a new guy(McD) comes in and trying to be clever he hand delivers a franchise QB to his old pal coach who had spent most of the prior 20 years learning every way to lose in the playoffs. Reid was one more Alex Smith playoff exit from "it's time for a change" in KC. McDermott changed all that. Reid really should thank him during his HoF speech. It was a “buddy” move. 1 Quote
Zerovoltz Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Well look at that…0.0volts trolling away. Where was this crap when the Chiefs were 0-2? Ooops…I forgot he is just here to talk football, not a troll. Yeah right. I joined this board a long time ago with the 100 pct intent to troll. And I did for while. And I had a lot of fun having some good back and forth here as Mahomes took off, and Allen was drafted and was slowly developed. I had some epic exchanges with a poster here who I think is Transplant Bills Fan...but in my mind I just recall him as Transplant Pants because his avatar is/was a picture of Bills Zubaz pants. I enjoyed watching Allen and it was cool to see him become what he is. I admitted...many times here how wrong I was about him. I've been a big fan watching him play over the years. Kind of weird but the Bills are my second favorite team at this point. You can believe what you want.....about this post or other posts I've made here over the years....but this one isn't intended to rile anyone or piss anyone off even though I know some will take that way...that's fine. A chiefs fan asking a question like this about what some consider some painful memories...I get it. But...I wanted to ask because I thought about it and it occured to me I wouldn't know myself, how I'd feel about it if my team had that record. A lot of mixed and interesting posts about it so far. Every time the Chiefs have lost, I come in here right away to congratulate you guys and take some bitter medicine. And like it has been for a long time now, If KC can't be the team to win the SB...I am rooting for the Bills to do it. 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Bud you know I like and respect you as you’ve always been in my opinion respectful and honest as a Bills fan. This is trying to file up a rival base. You’re better that that my friend. So enjoy the game and we’ll probably talk again after either way. No matter the outcome, if you’re respectful, I promise I will as well. You’re a proud Chiefs fan. That’s respectfutl. Please don’t go the other way. Hey, you beat us four times in the playoffs. You’re poking a bear. C’mon. Your better than that one. 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 12 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: The Bills being the only team to have ever done it.....is it a point of pride for a Bills fan? Is it an important record even though the Bills lost all 4? The Chiefs have a chance to tie that record if they were to make it again this season. Besides the obvious...if KC makes a 4th in a row, it means the Bills didn't make it this year......but aside from that.....having that record be shared with another team make you mad? Relieved? Indifferent? It's an ambivalent thing. It was great to be good enough to make four consecutive Super Bowls, but it sucked to lose them all. There's a mixture of pride and pain. If the Chiefs equal the record, I won't care except that it means the Bills didn't make it this year. But I don't really expect the Bills to make the SB this year. What the Chiefs do or don't do - outside of Bills-Chiefs matchups - doesn't really matter to me. Quote
LabattBlue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: I joined this board a long time ago with the 100 pct intent to troll. And I did for while. And I had a lot of fun having some good back and forth here as Mahomes took off, and Allen was drafted and was slowly developed. I had some epic exchanges with a poster here who I think is Transplant Bills Fan...but in my mind I just recall him as Transplant Pants because his avatar is/was a picture of Bills Zubaz pants. I enjoyed watching Allen and it was cool to see him become what he is. I admitted...many times here how wrong I was about him. I've been a big fan watching him play over the years. Kind of weird but the Bills are my second favorite team at this point. You can believe what you want.....about this post or other posts I've made here over the years....but this one isn't intended to rile anyone or piss anyone off even though I know some will take that way...that's fine. A chiefs fan asking a question like this about what some consider some painful memories...I get it. But...I wanted to ask because I thought about it and it occured to me I wouldn't know myself, how I'd feel about it if my team had that record. A lot of mixed and interesting posts about it so far. Every time the Chiefs have lost, I come in here right away to congratulate you guys and take some bitter medicine. And like it has been for a long time now, If KC can't be the team to win the SB...I am rooting for the Bills to do it. Blah blah blah. Same BS, different year. 1 1 Quote
Johnnycage46 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 24 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Blah blah blah. Same BS, different year. The crazy thing is, he is a legit grown ass man (easy to find a lot of info on the internet), not some 20 year old who is trolling folks. I'm talking grown, family man, who goes online to try to upset people. Very, very odd behavior. Quote
GaryPinC Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I personally, see far less critiques prefaces by the good stuff than I do people just referring to him as McDummy, McClappy or any of the lazy nicknames. The pre critique glazing that you speak of I really only see done with Josh. It's like you need to write a four page essay on him just to say he made one bad read or you get crucified. I, personally, don't see that level of "respect" given to McDermott. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I just never have noticed it being a routine thing here. McDermott will always have my undying respect for turning the culture around as a classy individual and good coach. After 8 seasons though, him and this FO are treading water with Allen aging. He needs to show more continuous improvement to get us to the next level. A good many of us are saying this. Tune out the name callers and focus on the earnest discussion. We lost our last Superbowl after the players gave up when Dallas tied it up on the turnover. You could see it in their faces. Why? Because nothing much had changed from the years before. I don't want to see that mistake repeated. But there's still hope this season, so let's see. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Returntoglory said: It's never been a point of pride for me. Losing is not an option! See that's just the wrong mindset.. if you do that nobody sees in a successful in the NFL except the super bowl champion but that's not true The bills didn't lose anything They won four straight AFC championships.. four straight AFC championships is not losing anything Quote
frostbitmic Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Those teams were amazing during AFC Championship games but that was 30 years ago, so I really don't GAF what the Chiefs may or may not do, we did it first. When you make it to 5 straight I'll golf clap applaud your team. Quote
Returntoglory Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: See that's just the wrong mindset.. if you do that nobody sees in a successful in the NFL except the super bowl champion but that's not true The bills didn't lose anything They won four straight AFC championships.. four straight AFC championships is not losing anything What's the ultimate goal of playing in a professional sport? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: What's the ultimate goal of playing in a professional sport? That doesn't mean everything is a failure and you're a loser if you don't win the championship .. Jim Kelly and biscuit Thurman and Bruce certainly not losers They did win four straight AFC championships.. That's like saying a pennant in baseball is not important.. of course it is an accomplishment The bills were champions of the American football conference four straight times .. they were not Losers of the AFC they were champions of the AFC Edited 5 hours ago by Buffalo716 Quote
Returntoglory Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That doesn't mean everything is a failure and you're a loser if you don't win the championship .. Jim Kelly and biscuit Thurman and Bruce certainly not losers They did win four straight AFC championships.. That's like saying a pennant in baseball is not important.. of course it is an accomplishment I never called anyone a loser. I'm just stating a fact. The only time anyone remembers the runner-up in a SuperBowl is when you miss " Wide right" or lose 4 straight. We're on the same course with the present regime. We have a young, MVP, generational QB that may never sniff a SuperBowl. Poor game management with our OC. Substandard D schemes based on mediocre talent in key positions and a GM that apparently feels Josh is just fine with average WR's. This is a multi-billion dollar business where winning is all that counts, in the end, for the fan base. I've been watching this rerun for 52 years! But Ok, sure. At the SuperBowl trophy ceremony, i suppose there could be another stage for the runner-up and present them with a participation trophy 🤔 Edited 5 hours ago by Returntoglory Spelling Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: I never called anyone a loser. I'm just stating a fact. The only time anyone remembers the runner-up in a SuperBowl is when you miss " Wide right" or lose 4 straight. We're on the same course with the present regime. We have a young, MVP, generational QB that may never sniff a SuperBowl. Poor game management with our OC. Substandard D schemes based on mediocre talent in key positions and a GM that apparently feels Josh is just fine with average WR's. This is a multi-billion dollar business where winning is all that counts, in the end, for the fan base. I've been watching this rerun for 52 years! But Ok, sure. At the SuperBowl trophy ceremony, i suppose there could be another stage for the runner-up and present them with a participation trophy 🤔 the bills did win 4 championships in the American football conference Dude 31 teams don't win the super bowl and only two win their conference that is absolutely something to hang your hat on Every Buffalo Bills player should be proud about winning those AFC championships.. despite not bringing home the super bowl that does not make winning the AFC championship any less accomplishment Edited 5 hours ago by Buffalo716 Quote
muppy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago when I saw this thread one thought came to mind. I taped on VHS tapes all of those games. They have not been replayed since. that's a long Long LONG time ago. 1 Quote
Returntoglory Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: the bills did win 4 championships in the American football conference Dude 31 teams don't win the super bowl and only two win their conference that is absolutely something to hang your hat on Every Buffalo Bills player should be proud about winning those AFC championships.. despite not bringing home the super bowl that does not make winning the AFC championship any less accomplishment Oh yeah, let’s hang the “Almost Champions” banners and throw a parade for second place. Maybe hand out participation rings while we’re at it. Winning the AFC is nice and all, but history doesn’t carve your name in stone for almost. The goal isn’t to get there — it’s to win there. Four trips, zero finishes. That’s not a legacy, that’s a lesson. Quote
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