Von Miller Has More Sacks This Season Than Any Bills Player Thus Far...

[Bill from NYC]

14 hours ago, Ga boy said:

Agree.  Talent and scheme win SBs.  Beane gets a lot of flack for players not performing to their draft status in the 1st round, but I would guess every other GM in the National Football League has drafted similar players but earlier in the 1st round.  Plus, drafting at the end means you get leftovers.  Do we really think we can do better than Beane?

To answer your question, I think that Beane would do better without McDermott.

[nuklz2594]

nope. dude was injured and "allegedly" assaulted his lady....again

[Sierra Foothills]

16 hours ago, PonyBoy said:

Well ....

Vons had more sex than me this season than I've had since the drought.. 

 

Oh ..Sacks...nevermind 😞

 

 

[ddaryl]

17 hours ago, falgobofu said:

Hurts more to know we are still paying him to get more sacks than all of our defensive players

We are not paying Von Miller. He was cut and we took the dead cap hit but he is not getting paid by the Bills

[Mr. WEO]

he's doing nothing for that team with a small number of sacks nearly halfway through the season.  

 

 

[Goin Breakdown]

Are they cancerous? I'm asking because I do routine checks and I only have 1. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

He's too injury prone. 

[NewEra]

18 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Many years ago we had the worst offensive line in the NFL. Many fans claimed it was the "scheme." Then they hired Mouse McNally  a famed OL coach. The line either stayed the same or got worse.

 

What I learned from this is that talent is even more important than scheme. 

 

And then we signed Aaron Kromer and our OL is great.

 

i agree that talent more important than scheme in a way where if your players suck the results will be poor. I do believe a good scheme can raise the level of play of every players

[billsfan89]

18 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

Bosa almost had 2 sacks in 3 plays versus the Panthers.  Got called for tripping.  Add in Bosa's 4 forced fumbles and the fact that he has a pretty friendly contract and Bosa is a pretty good deal.

 

Bosa is also still a high end edge setter against the run. Von even in 2022 when he was closer to his prime pre-injury was not great against the run he wasn't bad at all (Von was a very good edge setter in his prime) but he wasn't controlling the edge against the run either. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, ddaryl said:

We are not paying Von Miller. He was cut and we took the dead cap hit but he is not getting paid by the Bills

 

Correct - dead money is money you already paid him.  

 

As for Von - no one was against getting rid of him.  He was injured basically his entire tenure with the team, so counting on him in 2025 would have been kind of silly.  

Edited 7 hours ago by Bleeding Bills Blue

[Bill from NYC]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I do believe a good scheme can raise the level of play of every players

Well of course, at least to some degree. My point was about the OL. During many of the Levy years and even beyond, OL talent seemed like an afterthought, and all the coaching schemes in the world were not going to make them good. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

19 hours ago, Nuncha said:

Did any of his 4 sacks come at a crucial time in a game?  Probably all in garbage time.  The dude is washed.

 

He has 4x half sacks and 2 full sacks. 

 

One of his 2 real sacks came with 30 seconds left in the game against the Chargers after they had benched Herbert .

 

He is a relentless stat padder at this point of his career. 

[T master]

21 hours ago, NoName said:

Von Miller has 4 sacks this year.  Bosa and Ed Oliver has 3 sacks a piece.  Is it possible our scheme held him back?  

No he's making money from 2 teams this season so he can have 2 times as much production because he's getting 2 paychecks .

 

Plus it usually takes a couple of seasons for a player to get back to their former selves as players when dealing with a ACL recovery .

Edited 5 hours ago by T master

[FLFan]

20 hours ago, Maine-iac said:

Bosa almost had 2 sacks in 3 plays versus the Panthers.  Got called for tripping.  Add in Bosa's 4 forced fumbles and the fact that he has a pretty friendly contract and Bosa is a pretty good deal.

The Bills are 5th in the NFL in sacks per game so far this year, in case anyone is interested in facts.  Bosa has been a great addition thus far.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

And then we signed Aaron Kromer and our OL is great.

 

i agree that talent more important than scheme in a way where if your players suck the results will be poor. I do believe a good scheme can raise the level of play of every players

 

Take Josh out of the measure and they really aren't a great O-line.  His prerelease time is of his own making, often running laterally from relentless pressure.  He is one of the hardest QBs to sack--not because of his protection.  We see this every week.

[NewEra]

34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Take Josh out of the measure and they really aren't a great O-line.  His prerelease time is of his own making, often running laterally from relentless pressure.  He is one of the hardest QBs to sack--not because of his protection.  We see this every week.

He’s also been bailing prematurely when the pocket has been clean 

[Mr. WEO]

33 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He’s also been bailing prematurely when the pocket has been clean 

couple times yes.  But we’ve seen Josh bail out an overpowered O line for years now

Edited 4 hours ago by Mr. WEO

[Don Otreply]

22 hours ago, NoName said:

Von Miller has 4 sacks this year.  Bosa and Ed Oliver has 3 sacks a piece.  Is it possible our scheme held him back?  

The scheme has held the defense back for years, lol

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

couple times yes.  But we’ve seen Josh bail out an overpowered O line for years now

“a couple”?  Much closer to a couple times per game is more like it this season.  
 

of course Josh is going to bail out the line when it gets beat.  
 

James Cook also ran for over 115 yards before contact last week.  

 

our OL is still one of the best in the league.  Kromer and his scheme have a lot to do with it.  But you should argue against that notion just argue