Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[dave mcbride]

They are a problem, and they have a cupcake schedule. Plus they are extremely well-coached. It’s also now clear that Maye is (unfortunately) the real deal. My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites. They will slaughter Atlanta, I expect.

[Psautcsk]

7 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They are a problem, and they have a cupcake schedule. Plus they are extremely well-coached. It’s also now clear that Maye is (unfortunately) the real deal. My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites. They will slaughter Atlanta, I expect.

Sad, but true.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

The one thing Maye has over Allen is a lethal deep ball. He was dropping buckets the entire day. 

[LEBills]

They are too young to really be a threat, they’ll mess up either in season or in the playoff. Should be a pain to deal with in a year or two.

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The one thing Maye has over Allen is a lethal deep ball. He was dropping buckets the entire day. 

I do t think he was saying Maye is better or even as good as Allen… because he isn’t.. IMO what Maye has that Allen doesn’t is better coaching.. I think McDaniels is an Amazing OC and Vrabel a really good HC.. 

[KingBoots8]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They are a problem, and they have a cupcake schedule. Plus they are extremely well-coached. It’s also now clear that Maye is (unfortunately) the real deal. My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites. They will slaughter Atlanta, I expect.

 

Once Vrabel got hired it was the changing of the guard at NE. While they are good, we were neck and neck with them and just came out on the wrong side. It happens, and they’re going to drop a few games they shouldn’t (like we did). I expect to win the East, but they’re going to fight us the whole way.

 

Vrabel coaches his players well. I’m not a McD hater but it would be very interesting to imagine what our team would look like under his leadership

[Goin Breakdown]

The pats are awesome horaaaayyyy

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, LEBills said:

They are too young to really be a threat, they’ll mess up either in season or in the playoff. Should be a pain to deal with in a year or two.

The Bills just need worry about the teams in Front of them.. I expect they end up in 1st in the East with the Pats as a wildcard.  

[boyst]

16 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They are a problem, and they have a cupcake schedule. Plus they are extremely well-coached. It’s also now clear that Maye is (unfortunately) the real deal. My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites. They will slaughter Atlanta, I expect.

That defense is a solid matchup for the patriots. They're fast and agile to counter the quick patriots. I don't think it'll be as easy as you think for them. 

[muppy]

patriots schma-triots BAH HUMBUG

 

I don't want to give them any props it makes me queasy.

 

SMH 

[Success]

Call me in denial, but I'm a "jury is still out" guy.

 

I thought the Browns might give them their 1st tough test (I don't count the Hochuli game), but the Browns O was absolutely abysmal today, and lost the TOP battle badly, as well as the turnover battle.

 

They'll have a better record this year than they will next year.   

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I do t think he was saying Maye is better or even as good as Allen… because he isn’t.. IMO what Maye has that Allen doesn’t is better coaching.. I think McDaniels is an Amazing OC and Vrabel a really good HC.. 

Allen had some top notch coaching his first few years. They molded him into an offensive machine. Maye was a lot more polished coming out of college whereas Allen had to be broken down and reconstructed. Not to take away from McDaniels who is obviously a well respected coordinator who’s been around a long time, but Daboll is no slouch either. 

[NoSaint]

20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

They are a problem, and they have a cupcake schedule. Plus they are extremely well-coached. It’s also now clear that Maye is (unfortunately) the real deal. My one hope for a loss is their game at Tampa, but the Bucs have so many injuries that I expect the Pats to be favorites. They will slaughter Atlanta, I expect.

dont do that thing where the first time a team flashes they are suddenly never going to play down to the lesser versions of themselves 

[zow2]

When i looked at that game the Browns were leading 7-3, late second Qtr maybe 5 mins left? They just intercepted Maye and returned it inside the Pats 35.  and they didn’t score again?! Not sure what happened. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Allen had some top notch coaching his first few years. They molded him into an offensive machine. Maye was a lot more polished coming out of college whereas Allen had to be broken down and reconstructed. Not to take away from McDaniels who is obviously a well respected coordinator who’s been around a long time, but Daboll is no slouch either. 

I meant this year..  it it’s obviously my biased opinion. 

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

When i looked at that game the Browns were leading 7-3, late second Qtr maybe 5 mins left? They just intercepted Maye and returned it inside the Pats 35.  and they didn’t score again?! Not sure what happened. 

The Pats D held and they actually lost 2 yards and the kicker shanked the kick. Maye marched down twice to get 2 FG.. the 3rd quarter he hit his groove and threw 3 TD passes game over..

6 minutes ago, Success said:

Call me in denial, but I'm a "jury is still out" guy.

 

I thought the Browns might give them their 1st tough test (I don't count the Hochuli game), but the Browns O was absolutely abysmal today, and lost the TOP battle badly, as well as the turnover battle.

 

They'll have a better record this year than they will next year.   

 

The turnovers were 2-2 so that was a push.. the difference the Pats 14 to 0 points off turnovers

[zow2]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

The Pats D held and they actually lost 2 yards and the kicker shanked the kick. Maye marched down twice to get 2 FG.. the 3rd quarter he hit his groove and threw 3 TD passes game over..

 

The Maye, Vrabel combo looks terrific.  Teams will absolutely start scheming harder against Maye, and if he can continue to get the better of defenses that will be impressive. I do expect them to lose a couple games that they are favored in. All teams do.

[Chaos]

Vrabel is a solid coach who never had the advantage of having an excellent QB. Hopefully he doesn't know how to capitalize on that situation. 

[Success]

Pats nation is full of themselves again, unfortunately.  The online discourse on some of the general boards is comical.

 

Man, that didn't take long - or much.  The entitlement w/ that group is really something to behold.

 

 

[Maine-iac]

McDaniels does a great job of protecting Maye.  He also has a decent defense keeping most games close.  NE is probably where Denver was last year.  Maye runs into a team that scores enough to make him throw 40 times a game against a good defense we'll get a better idea of whether he's arrived or not.

[BillsFanForever19]

Yeah, they were able to secure a good Head Coach and hit the jackpot on all 3 of their Top Draft Picks the past 3 seasons with an All Pro CB, a Franchise QB, and a future All Pro OT. On top of that, they had more money under the cap than every other team in the league and spent wisely. Securing Stefon Diggs who bounced back from his ACL without missing a step.

 

The division honestly looks like less than a 50% proposition to me, now that they have a game up on us. At the time, that loss didn't seem like the end of the world. Now we must beat them in their house and beat their record. A big ask with how they're looking lately.