AROUND THE NFL: Oct. 26. (Please limit Bills discussion to the pertinent threads)

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

Honestly I'd reverse this argument entirely. It's the guys in trail position who are closing on the WR while the (ostensibly underthrown) pass approaches and the WR throttles down to adjust, causing the DB to contact him without playing the ball...

 

A DB can't assume by default that every ball is going to be underthrown; he has to attack where he thinks the catch point is going to be, which would be at the end of the route. If it is underthrown, he probably has a better chance to avoid contact if he's watching the WR gear down than if he's spinning around off-balance trying to find the ball.

The fact that the world's best coaches now coach it this way should be enough to settle the debate, imo.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

third 50 yard field goal of the game. wow. that's clutch. 

I went to the real field house when I was 15 and practice before my sectional game and I tried to kick field goals which I never did 

 

I couldn't even hit a 20-yard field goal which amazed me to how good these field goal kickers actually are 

 

They are athletes

[Jon in Pasadena]

Holy crap whatta catch (and throw!)

Edited 3 hours ago by Jon in Pasadena

[SCBills]

Jordan Love is getting away with some absolute nonsense out there tonight 

[Richard Noggin]

Just now, Simon said:

 

A DB can't assume by default that every ball is going to be underthrown; he has to attack where he thinks the catch point is going to be, which would be at the end of the route. If it is underthrown, he probably has a better chance to avoid contact if he's watching the WR gear down than if he's spinning around off-balance trying to find the ball.

The fact that the world's best coaches now coach it this way should be enough to settle the debate, imo.

 

Fair. So maybe there are specific offenses/QBs who tend to lean on the back-shoulder/underthrow enough that DBs need to get their heads around when the WR eyes flash and/or the arms raise...gotta be opponent-specific techniques for each game. Some savvy WRs DON'T tip off the pass's arrival clearly enough (with eyes or arms) for the DB to respond in time, while others definitely do. Some QBs (Tua) don't have the arm strength to get it deep enough if thrown too late in the route, so the DBs have to anticipate an underthrow...

[Mojo44]

Love is really good. There has been an influx of some good young quarterbacks over the past 2 to 3 years. Bit of a sea change.

[Sierra Foothills]

Great football game.

 

It's nice to have a good night cap at the end of football Sunday.

 

[muppy]

Just now, Jon in Pasadena said:

Holy crap whatta catch

that pass was  a wing and a prayer lol it fell perfectly into the hands of the receiver geez

[Sierra Foothills]

Just now, Mojo44 said:

Love is really good. There has been an influx of some good young quarterbacks over the past 2 to 3 years. Bit of a sea change.

 

Super impressed with Love tonight.

 

I think going up against Rodgers has brought out his best.

 

[zow2]

Just now, muppy said:

that pass was  a wing and a prayer lol it fell perfectly into the hands of the receiver geez

 

A couple times tonight with that.  His guys on the receiving end are making the plays. 

[Fan in Chicago]

Game on!!

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

Some savvy WRs DON'T tip off the pass's arrival clearly enough (with eyes or arms) for the DB to respond in time

 

It's very rare, but we are starting to see some veteran guys who can make their own adjustments to these evolving DB adjustments by doing exactly that.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

It's very rare, but we are starting to see some veteran guys who can make their own adjustments to these evolving DB adjustments by doing exactly that.

 

It's how much do these guys take the coaching truly Simon 

 

The defensive guys are getting coached to do exactly what I told you 

 

The offensive guys are trained to keep their hands low until the pass is coming in and then raise them 

 

But football is such a fast sport.. if you're a Larry Fitzgerald yeah you can hide your hands till the last second 

 

Zay Jones can't and there's more Zay Jones's than Larry Fitzgerald

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[zow2]

Gotta hand it to the pack.  Down 16-7 at half they seemed cooked.

[Richard Noggin]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

It's very rare, but we are starting to see some veteran guys who can make their own adjustments to these evolving DB adjustments by doing exactly that.

 

Was it Davonte Adams who was recently highlighted in-game for just this trait? Late eyes/hands? Such a cool nuance. 

[TheFunPolice]

This is where Green Bay takes over.

 

 

[Julio Hopkins]

Parsons is so ***** good man, that was an insane sack.  

[tigerthelion]

Parsons singlehandedly ended that drive.

[Low Positive]

How is this interconference game so chippy?

[TheFunPolice]

Steelers are melting down

 

Packers are bigger, younger, faster and more talented.

 

Steelers kept it close longer than I expected, but it's over now. 4-5 plays until it's a 10 point Packer lead.