Winning the toss and deferring

[JMM]

I understand why McDermott likes to do this. Hopeful of making an early statement and double dipping at the end of the half and start of 3rd. BUT, this year's D is so bad, so putrid, it's simply a poor decision now. They tend to allow a long td drive. Gives the other team and their crowd hope, puts immediate pressure on the O and just gives a bad vibe to start the games. At this point if we win the toss I think we should take the ball!

[Aussie Joe]

I see the opposite argument made a lot …

 

Anyone got any stats on how often the team starting with the ball wins the game ? I suspect it’s close to 50/50..

[JMM]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

I see the opposite argument made a lot …

 

Anyone got any stats on how often the team starting with the ball wins the game ? I suspect it’s close to 50/50..

I agree in general with deferring,  just that right now with our D so lousy I think it's not a good decision 

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, JMM said:

I understand why McDermott likes to do this. Hopeful of making an early statement and double dipping at the end of the half and start of 3rd. BUT, this year's D is so bad, so putrid, it's simply a poor decision now. They tend to allow a long td drive. Gives the other team and their crowd hope, puts immediate pressure on the O and just gives a bad vibe to start the games. At this point if we win the toss I think we should take the ball!

 

I mean they got a TO on the first play but Rousseau inexplicably lines up offside.

[machine gun kelly]

Most teams defer now.  This is a silly argument.  I’m frustrated too, but not stating dumb stuff.  Nothing against the op as I get he’s frustrated.

[Gilberto]

I think the opportunity to "steal" a possession after halftime is worth it. I could easily see the inverse happening too, which would give the Bills opponent hope, which is a quick 3 and out by the Bills offense. 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean they got a TO on the first play but Rousseau inexplicably lines up offside.

That i still haven't scene a replay on it.

[JMM]

2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Most teams defer now.  This is a silly argument.  I’m frustrated too, but not stating dumb stuff.  Nothing against the op as I get he’s frustrated.

Explain why it's dumb and silly. How is giving up a lead with poor defense repeatedly to start a game not something to consider when making that decision at this time?

[BillsShredder83]

15 minutes ago, JMM said:

I understand why McDermott likes to do this. Hopeful of making an early statement and double dipping at the end of the half and start of 3rd. BUT, this year's D is so bad, so putrid, it's simply a poor decision now. They tend to allow a long td drive. Gives the other team and their crowd hope, puts immediate pressure on the O and just gives a bad vibe to start the games. At this point if we win the toss I think we should take the ball!

Id much rather try to play ahead.  Our defense is bad bad, but we do have solid pass rush this year, and making a team more 1 dimensional early makes that job easier.  we set the tone.

[Low Positive]

To your point, the Falcons won the toss, took the ball, and scored a TD. 

[Big Turk]

31 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

That i still haven't scene a replay on it.

 

I saw the flag go out immediately at the snap and I was like either illegal shift/formation or Offside...

[Low Positive]

35 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

That i still haven't scene a replay on it.

 

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I saw the flag go out immediately at the snap and I was like either illegal shift/formation or Offside...

This is right as the snap is occurring, LoS in the 31:

[billsfan89]

I am always for deferring. No matter the scenario you always want the ball to start the second half. If you are down you can start your comeback, if you are tied that extra possible possession can make a difference, if you are winning you want the chance to build your lead. 

[GunnerBill]

We lost the toss yesterday.

[ALLinALLEN]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

 

This is right as the snap is occurring, LoS in the 31:

The fact he is literally untouched and a non factor in the play and it’s called back bcuz of this makes it that much more infuriating. 

[SoCal Deek]

He’s Offside. What’s the problem? (Other than that Groot is generally a non factor on the D Line.)

[DrDawkinstein]

The Falcons won the toss and elected to receive so not sure what this thread is about. In general, it's correct to defer.

[Low Positive]

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

He’s Offside. What’s the problem? (Other than that Groot is generally a non factor on the D Line.)

Never said there was a problem with the call. People said they hadn't seen it so I posted it. 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Low Positive said:

Never said there was a problem with the call. People said they hadn't seen it so I posted it. 

You’ll notice I didn’t say that you did. And thanks for posting the photo. 

[bubba2018]

the bills defense played better in the second half, might as well take the ball