The 2025 Current State of the Buffalo Bills is All on General Manager Brandon Beane

[TheFunPolice]

We have Josh Allen and we struggle to throw the ball or do not want to throw the ball. 

 

I think McDermott is actually fine with Josh being Josh, but is trying to keep him healthy and fresh for the playoffs, which I understand and it makes sense. 

 

It happened even in the opener. We played McDermott ball until we had to have Josh put the cape on. 

 

I think it makes a lot of sense, and McDermott is trying to avoid a repeat of Cam Newton. Some people forget just how superhuman he seemed in his prime. He was an absolute superstar. 

 

Then, basically overnight he couldn't do anything anymore because of injury. It feels like he hasn't played in forever and he's only 36. 

 

So, all that being said, this is why I am OK with McDermott, although I wouldn't hate to see a change. I would much rather have him than many of the other names mentioned here.

 

I would absolutely move on from Beane if things don't go the way we want this season. It's a way to shake things up and send a message that the goal is not being met. I actually think McDermott has shown the ability to adapt and learn, and I think he would do even better with a GM who gives him better players. 

 

 

[Gregg]

4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

We have Josh Allen and we struggle to throw the ball or do not want to throw the ball. 

 

I think McDermott is actually fine with Josh being Josh, but is trying to keep him healthy and fresh for the playoffs, which I understand and it makes sense. 

 

It happened even in the opener. We played McDermott ball until we had to have Josh put the cape on. 

 

I think it makes a lot of sense, and McDermott is trying to avoid a repeat of Cam Newton. Some people forget just how superhuman he seemed in his prime. He was an absolute superstar. 

 

Then, basically overnight he couldn't do anything anymore because of injury. It feels like he hasn't played in forever and he's only 36. 

 

So, all that being said, this is why I am OK with McDermott, although I wouldn't hate to see a change. I would much rather have him than many of the other names mentioned here.

 

I would absolutely move on from Beane if things don't go the way we want this season. It's a way to shake things up and send a message that the goal is not being met. I actually think McDermott has shown the ability to adapt and learn, and I think he would do even better with a GM who gives him better players. 

 

 

 

A new GM would mean McDermott's job is on the line. A new GM may work with McDermott initially but if things go south then the new GM will definitely want to bring in his own HC. We see this scenario play out in sports all the time.

[Toledo Bill]

25 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

A new GM would mean McDermott's job is on the line. A new GM may work with McDermott initially but if things go south then the new GM will definitely want to bring in his own HC. We see this scenario play out in sports all the time.

Unique situation though, with McD and Beane reporting separately to Pegula.

[Gregg]

18 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

Unique situation though, with McD and Beane reporting separately to Pegula.

 

A new GM isn't tied to McDermott. I am sure during the interview process the new GM will let Terry know that he wants the power to bring in his own HC if he and McDermott aren't working well together otherwise, he won't accept the job.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

The current state is 5-2, and even after a bye week they're still insanely banged up.  Injuries make a difference and its hard to build a team when everyones in the trainers room.  

• Oliver has basically missed the entire season now
• 1st round pick hairston just got his first game action in week 8 after starting the year on IR
• 2nd round pick TJ sanders is currently on IR
• DQ has missed time
• Carter is on IR too which kinda sucks when you factor in that like everyone at that position is hurt
• Strong looked like a useful late round player - also on IR
• Rapp has played through an injury all season likely as they got poyer back up to speed and shifted hancock to a pure safety role
• Every linebacker on the roster has missed time this year 
• Offensive side of the ball, kincaids been banged up, now palmer, samuel

[Mat68]

1 hour ago, Goin Breakdown said:

This does not paint the whole

picture of the season. You have to also ask would you take low positive josh and a passing attack that hardly goes beyond the LOS, Milano missing most of the season. Bernard and Benford not playing to their contracts, Oliver done for the season while most of our DT are injured, Samuel and Palmer missing a ton of time while KC and Buffalo are currently going in different directions. Yes 5-2 is nice to look at but there's a full picture that needs to be looked at before we can say "I'd take that". 
- none of this is to argue as we all see things differently and I respect your opinion. I'm just saying that I'd need more. 

I have little issue or complaint with the offense.  In a pick your poison proposition Im fine with a conservative passing attack paired with an efficient run game.  When the run game is the focus of the defense I fully believe Allen can and will be as explosive as ever.  Sure a few things fall the right way this past Sunday Buffalo wins 42-6 Cook rushes for a few less yards and the offense sits the 4th quarters.  Allen has 2 throws and 2 decisions he wants back.  In a game that is pretty standard for every qb.  Seems more glaring with only 19 attempts thats a quarter of the decisions.  
 

I think moving past Milano, Rapp and White are all positives.  Walker, Harriston and Hancock look good.  A healthy Shaq Thompson may be the biggest pleasant surprise.  Keep him at mike with Benard at the will.  Milano strictly on the passing downs.

 

I don't want to peak before Halloween.  They are figuring things out on defense. I think the passing game is very close. Getting this thing tightened up for a run is what has happened for the last 3 years.  What the Patriots used to do.  What the Chiefs have done.  I have no doubt it doesn't happen again. 

[Billz4ever]

47 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

A new GM isn't tied to McDermott. I am sure during the interview process the new GM will let Terry know that he wants the power to bring in his own HC if he and McDermott aren't working well together otherwise, he won't accept the job.

 

Yeah, doubt a new GM is going to agree to have to keep a HC that he potentially doesn't see eye-to-eye with and have his own performance at least partially judged by that HC's performance.  If Beane goes, I can't really see McD still being here.  Which is crazy to think about since if that time does come, we're potentially going to have both a new HC and GM again.  That's another house cleaning.

[Goin Breakdown]

20 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I have little issue or complaint with the offense.  In a pick your poison proposition Im fine with a conservative passing attack paired with an efficient run game.  When the run game is the focus of the defense I fully believe Allen can and will be as explosive as ever.  Sure a few things fall the right way this past Sunday Buffalo wins 42-6 Cook rushes for a few less yards and the offense sits the 4th quarters.  Allen has 2 throws and 2 decisions he wants back.  In a game that is pretty standard for every qb.  Seems more glaring with only 19 attempts thats a quarter of the decisions.  
 

I think moving past Milano, Rapp and White are all positives.  Walker, Harriston and Hancock look good.  A healthy Shaq Thompson may be the biggest pleasant surprise.  Keep him at mike with Benard at the will.  Milano strictly on the passing downs.

 

I don't want to peak before Halloween.  They are figuring things out on defense. I think the passing game is very close. Getting this thing tightened up for a run is what has happened for the last 3 years.  What the Patriots used to do.  What the Chiefs have done.  I have no doubt it doesn't happen again. 

You're right about the passing attempts. I think that's part of the disconnect that Josh seems to be having with the WR or the offense in general. There doesn't seems to be attempts that get him in the grove. Believe me I live the run game as it is but if the defense starts clicking and the run game is elite, can you imagine during a Josh Allen led season, that he becomes the reason we can't get over the hump. It's like when our offense is humming, our defense fails and when the defense is humming our offense dips. It seems we can't have both sides of the ball consistent and complimentary. 

[Gregg]

9 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

 

Yeah, doubt a new GM is going to agree to have to keep a HC that he potentially doesn't see eye-to-eye with and have his own performance at least partially judged by that HC's performance.  If Beane goes, I can't really see McD still being here.  Which is crazy to think about since if that time does come, we're potentially going to have both a new HC and GM again.  That's another house cleaning.

 

The one good thing is the Bills job is a very attractive one with the franchise QB who is one of the best in the league already in place. There would be a lot of interest in this job.

[dancing_joker]

53 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

The current state is 5-2, and even after a bye week they're still insanely banged up.  Injuries make a difference and its hard to build a team when everyones in the trainers room.  

• Oliver has basically missed the entire season now
• 1st round pick hairston just got his first game action in week 8 after starting the year on IR
• 2nd round pick TJ sanders is currently on IR
• DQ has missed time
• Carter is on IR too which kinda sucks when you factor in that like everyone at that position is hurt
• Strong looked like a useful late round player - also on IR
• Rapp has played through an injury all season likely as they got poyer back up to speed and shifted hancock to a pure safety role
• Every linebacker on the roster has missed time this year 
• Offensive side of the ball, kincaids been banged up, now palmer, samuel

How many years am I going to have to listen to 1/2 or 3/4s of the defense banged up? When will people realize it’s McDermott’s scheme and Beane finding guys that fit the scheme that is the root cause? This “woe is me…my defense is hurt” excuse will always be a thing until they’re both gone. 

[JP51]

On 10/20/2025 at 1:35 PM, ngbills said:

Stubbornness. We are paying Palmer, Samuel, Moore over $20M this season. Imagine a legit WR in stead of 3 average guys. You cant tell me legit #1, Shakir, Coleman, Shavers, Random guy would not be better than Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel or Moore (we never dress both it seems), Shavers

This is incredibly indicting of Beane... 20m for 22 receptions 350 yrds and 1 TD thru 7 games...  maybe we should look to the draft... oh wait... 

[appoo]

If they were healthy, they're a single deep threat away from being perhaps the best team in the League. That's not actually a bad thing

[gomper]

4 hours ago, JP51 said:

This is incredibly indicting of Beane... 20m for 22 receptions 350 yrds and 1 TD thru 7 games...  maybe we should look to the draft... oh wait... 

Beane has done what no DC has ever done, he's neutered Josh. A horizontal passing game has to be incredibly frustrating. 

[DaVinci]

Bean is on the move, working out 4 washed D lineman

[Mikie2times]

6 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

The current state is 5-2, and even after a bye week they're still insanely banged up.  Injuries make a difference and its hard to build a team when everyones in the trainers room.  

• Oliver has basically missed the entire season now
• 1st round pick hairston just got his first game action in week 8 after starting the year on IR
• 2nd round pick TJ sanders is currently on IR
• DQ has missed time
• Carter is on IR too which kinda sucks when you factor in that like everyone at that position is hurt
• Strong looked like a useful late round player - also on IR
• Rapp has played through an injury all season likely as they got poyer back up to speed and shifted hancock to a pure safety role
• Every linebacker on the roster has missed time this year 
• Offensive side of the ball, kincaids been banged up, now palmer, samuel

I went ahead and crossed off anybody who has never played in the NFL or has played and has sucked for at least 1 year+

 

 

[billsfan89]

Historically poor drafting since 2019? Dude get a grip

[stuvian]

If we back into the playoffs as a wildcard while watching the Pats get a first round bye, it will be interesting to see how Terry responds. That will have to bother him on some level. Mike Vrabel with a good QB is a dangerous man. His turning around the Pats in two years will cause uncomfortable questions to be asked

[todd]

Reading this thread makes me laugh. The amount of pansies complaining about the gm and coach of a perennial playoff team that is 5-2 is laughable. Get a grip. Enjoy the ride. The team will get there, if not this year then next. Whiners gonna whine. Learn not to be miserable. 

[gomper]

19 minutes ago, stuvian said:

If we back into the playoffs as a wildcard while watching the Pats get a first round bye, it will be interesting to see how Terry responds. That will have to bother him on some level. Mike Vrabel with a good QB is a dangerous man. His turning around the Pats in two years will cause uncomfortable questions to be asked

Agreed.  Vrabel is such a better coach than McDermott.  Sad to watch this unfold.