For all you McDermott haters, who would you want?

[Billsatlastin2018]

8 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

They are 4-1.   2-1 in the division.  They were not going undefeated.  They were splitting with a division rival.  Defenses wasn't that bad with 2 practice squad DTs and the offense was unusually sloppy. Why the negativity?

Because that was a sloppy, mistake filled, idiot penalty, piss poor DIVISIONAL loss! If you’re going to drop one with this atrocious D (before it gets help in Week 7), you had to stumble, bumble and fumble through 6-0.

 

Now, you’re finally up against a semi quality opponent AWAY, instead of an inferior Patsies team- at HOME!

[GolfandBills]

I can’t see it happening under McDermott 

[KentuckyBillsFan]

Absolutely not. The divisional round/occasional AFCG is the ceiling with him and Beane.

 

The coaching and roster aren't good enough to win a SB. Pegula either will never realize this or will when Josh is out of his prime.

[corta765]

6 minutes ago, JP51 said:

yeah, i think that is the concern... there are two factions... we are 4-1 stop complaining we will be fine... and I want to win it all and what I am seeing is more of the same we have seen the past several years... in fact the defense has likely regressed... how are you going to win it all like that... I get both sides... but I am more in your camp which is the... we needed badly to improve on the defensive side of the ball...we have not... we have elected to go WR by C+/B- committee and the cracks are starting to show... eliminate the down field threat and the short stuff is much harder... as is the running game...  we have a serviceable core.... but they do not strike fear into the hearts of anyone....  Tearing it down is not what I think we should do... (from a guy who was upset with Polian and waited 25 years to get a competent GM in here....) our best hope is that Beane finally recognizes his short comings and makes FO changes and the McD hires a strong and Competent Dco and lets them do their thing... just my opinion... 

 

Exactly. The amount of resources devoted to the D to help Josh and then see this as the same issue if not worse as apparently they cannot tackle anymore when the head coach himself is a defensive guy is so frustrating. The Bills points allowed in playoff losses is an average of 30.8 since 2019.  Chiefs are 25.5 and Ravens are 20.6 since 2019. At some point is the guy who we keep dumping everything into his side of the ball actually going to have them show up and for real? It feels like that meme that says it didn't work before but maybe this time is different. I just don't think it is different anymore this is what you get and yea maybe Josh pulls an Aaron Rodgers 2010 run to get the ring, but he otherwise is being let down and being held to in an insane standard that his competition in KC/BAL aren't because they get that help. Hell its why a narrative exists on Lamar come post season because their defense generally is decent come the post season but the offense has too many days like we did last night.

[BarleyNY]

14 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Disagree.

 

Allen has been great in many games where McD's Defense ultimately cost them the game. 

 

What else could Allen possibly do in the postseason?

 

 

I guess I wasn’t clear. I do not mean that Allen should be expected to do more to get us to a championship. It would be more a matter of getting lucky with who we play, opponent’s injuries, etc. Again, it’s unlikely but within the realm of possibility.

[Billsfanatic8989]

3 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

You are probably right in that McDermott and Beane aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Sadly, I am starting to think Allen will be joining Marino and Ewing as great players who organizations didn't give them enough help to win a championship.

It would be a shame. The Bills are never going to get a QB like this again. In fact, very few teams will. The clock is ticking. 

[dorquemada]

I'm looking forward to his presser today, and expect to hear "It's hard to win in the NFL"

[billsfanfrom83]

No he will not I wonder how many coaches would've got #17 atleast one ring by now 

[BernieBill]

No, the Bills will likely not win a Super Bowl with McDermott as head coach ... he was gifted a superstar QB and the superstar QB is the reason the team makes the playoffs and is perceived as a contender.  If McDermott never had the luck of coaching a generational QB talent, he would have been dismissed long ago.  In the playoffs, McDermott's defense is the problem time and again.  Which other defensive-minded head coach gets to keep his first head coaching job when he can't build a championship-level defense over the course of a full decade?  None.  Only Sean McDermott.  And why?  Josh Allen.  This year will likely end the same way all the other years end ... some heartbreaking playoff loss in which the other team scores around 40.  Can't wait.

[DeltaDigital]

2 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

I'm looking forward to his presser today, and expect to hear "It's hard to win in the NFL"

same ***** every time. what he needs to say is, "wow. I got outclassed, out prepared, out coached in every single facet of being a head football coach and I have to do better. the lack of focus is on me"

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Yes I actually think the Bills will win a SuperBowl with McDermott. Just like Dungy was carried to a SuperBowl win, so will McDermott.  Both are decent men that shrink in the moment and were outclassed by their contemporaries - Belichick and Reid.  Allen is just as talented as Manning was and he was able to overcome Dungy.  If Beane can keep a competent O-line in front of Allen for the next 3-4 years they will win one.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

No

 

[Billsfanatic8989]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Yes I actually think the Bills will win a SuperBowl with McDermott. Just like Dungy was carried to a SuperBowl win, so will McDermott.  Both are decent men that shrink in the moment and were outclassed by their contemporaries - Belichick and Reid.  Allen is just as talented as Manning was and he was able to overcome Dungy.  If Beane can keep a competent O-line in front of Allen for the next 3-4 years they will win one.  

Dungy turned the Bucs from a joke into serious contenders. He was a very successful HC. Way better than McD imo.

[dorquemada]

What I don't get about McD is, what is his specialty?  I thought he was supposed to be some defensive guru, but he very obviously is not.  Our O changes with each OC, and now we're a dink and dunk running team, which is fashionable now I guess?  But clearly that's not his thing either.  It's very definitely not discipline, because that's completely lacking.  Special teams have never been better than average under him either.  Is it just that he can take a bad team and bootstrap them into the playoffs, but the conference is his hard ceiling?

2 minutes ago, DeltaDigital said:

same ***** every time. what he needs to say is, "wow. I got outclassed, out prepared, out coached in every single facet of being a head football coach and I have to do better. the lack of focus is on me"

 

I'll eat my had if he does that.  That's what's needed.  

[Mat68]

4 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Because that was a sloppy, mistake filled, idiot penalty, piss poor DIVISIONAL loss! If you’re going to drop one with this atrocious D (before it gets help in Week 7), you had to stumble, bumble and fumble through 6-0.

 

Now, you’re finally up against a semi quality opponent AWAY, instead of an inferior Patsies team- at HOME!

I dont think they are that quality and didnt expect them to prepare for them more or less than they did for the Saints.  Yes, it was a Sunday Night primetime game. Yes it was a whiteout.  Yes it was the first game of October.  The turnovers were going to flip at some point.  Lost a sloppy game learn from it and onto the next.  The narratives about the Patriots are just that.  Let’s see how they are after thanksgiving when the games really matter.  I think Buffalo has a chance to be the best they have been going into the playoffs.  

[RoscoeParrish]

McBeane should be blown up if we go out again in the playoffs in similar fashion to years past. 

Our weaknesses from the past few seasons remain. 
 

We have the same problems that prevented us from getting over the hump in the past and almost certainly will again.

 

What is different this time?

[harryS]

I don't get the "who would you replace him with" questions.  We'd have to wait until the offseason, sure, but then the Bills would have the pick of litter among the best OC and head coaches available.  (I would not hire a DC).  Every coach would love to coach Josh Allen.

 

Heck, we probably should've just hired Vrabel ourselves.

[colin]

well,

 

if i compare him to another coach who has made playoff splashes but never gotten to a chip game, let alone won one, i think of vrable.

 

vrable turned the culture around in tenn, like mcd did in buffalo.  tenn was a no where's ville small market team at that time just like we are.

 

vrable couldn't get over the hump, just like mcd.  vrable is now turning around a team again.

 

now a chunk of this is gonna be gm, but mcd picked our gm so i hold him accountable as the top man in our FO.  but vrable came into NE last year when it was a disaster, made some signings, made some picks, installed his system, and has them one game back of us after a big time road win.

 

if he can get the 1 seed with fricking tannyhill as qb, and come into town and beat us with a sorry azz ne team, why can't our coach/fo figure out how to get over the 13 second hump, or the constantly getting run out of the building in the playoffs hump?

 

i remember saying last year i'd take mcarthy over mcd.  people hate mcarthy (frankly, i can understand why) but he won a chip, we've been too two afc chip games.  if someone hasn't done something in the nfl i think it's reasonable to assume they cannot, and while i'm open to maybe mcarthy being washed and lucky in his chip win, mcd hasn't even done that so i don't see why i'd think he can.

[Sweats]

At the end of the day, the Bills franchise is a business, and business is doing better than ever........it all comes down to the bottom line, which is money, putting asses in the seats, selling merchandise, etc.

 

It's a formula that works and if a minority of the fans have a problem with the present coaching staff, then perhaps they would rather have the days back of Mularkey, Ryan, Jauron, etc.

We are a fanbase of a good (sometimes great) team. We have no control over the decisions that are made to field the team. We have no say in anything. We are simply spectators to a sport and team that we love and that's as far as it goes.

 

This FO brought us out of the depths of hell and there ain't no way they will ever be on the hot seat...........ever.

 

............keep spending your hard-earned money on this franchise..........Pegula and the investors thank you.

[KentuckyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

What I don't get about McD is, what is his specialty?  I thought he was supposed to be some defensive guru, but he very obviously is not.  Our O changes with each OC, and now we're a dink and dunk running team, which is fashionable now I guess?  But clearly that's not his thing either.  It's very definitely not discipline, because that's completely lacking.  Special teams have never been better than average under him either.  Is it just that he can take a bad team and bootstrap them into the playoffs, but the conference is his hard ceiling?

 

I'll eat my had if he does that.  That's what's needed.  

 

McDermott has absolutely no identity whatsoever