For all you McDermott haters, who would you want? (Now a poll)

[Buffalo Boy]

4 hours ago, bmur66 said:

Do coaches ever just resign? Sometimes they should.

Marrone, Mularkey

[GerstAusGosheim]

14 hours ago, Success said:

And you can't wait until Josh is 32 or 33. Now is really the time.

 

Cam Newton hit the wall hard at 32 and literally could not play QB anymore. We may have a very small window left and Sean is wasting it. I really hope I eat these words in February. 

[transient]

Looking at the "wish list", Sean McVay and Les Snead put a team together around Goff, made the bold move to trade him, then went all out and won a SB the first year he had Stafford. It would be really fun to see what a Bills team with the current core and some select additions would look like with a tandem like that at the helm. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

15 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

even then it isn't tbh

 

last season exemplified 'more than the usual' kind of luck

What was lucky last year?  The dropped 2 pointer to tie the game against Baltimore? 
 

Chiefs got the 1 seed on the back of insane early season officiating and we lost benford cuz he got hurt on an onside kick against Baltimore then reinjured and got terrible spots against the chiefs all night in the afc championship 

wouldn’t really call that a lucky playoff run overall 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[The Frankish Reich]

Leslie Frazier's defense is looking pretty good right about now.

[Albany,n.y.]

Sean McDermott

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

What was lucky last year?  The dropped 2 pointer to tie the game against Baltimore? 

 

A historically mistake-free offense. 0.1 fumbles lost per game, 2.82% sack percentage, 0.3 INTs per game. Those numbers were never going to be sustainable. This year we're at 0.4 fumbles lost per game, 5.00% sack percentage, 0.4 INTs per game. These are all still good metrics, top 12 at worst, but they have reverted to the mean as expected. And unfortunately our offense is not built to overcome mistakes as we saw on Sunday night. There was once a time where I felt that 3rd and longs were almost automatic conversions. Now it feels like we have to stay ahead of the sticks to have a chance of sustaining drives.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

26 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

A historically mistake-free offense. 0.1 fumbles lost per game, 2.82% sack percentage, 0.3 INTs per game. Those numbers were never going to be sustainable. This year we're at 0.4 fumbles lost per game, 5.00% sack percentage, 0.4 INTs per game. These are all still good metrics, top 12 at worst, but they have reverted to the mean as expected. And unfortunately our offense is not built to overcome mistakes as we saw on Sunday night. There was once a time where I felt that 3rd and longs were almost automatic conversions. Now it feels like we have to stay ahead of the sticks to have a chance of sustaining drives.

Oh you’re talking about regular season mostly? I was thinking luck in the playoffs. Usually on a teams Super Bowl run you can point to one or more fluky ‘how did that happen’ plays or a huge blown call to their benefit or their opponent losing a key player.   I think that’s what people mean when they’re talking about getting lucky in the playoffs usually.  That 2 point drop probably would qualify but it woulda just tied the game so I’m not sure how to count it haha 

 

beating the chiefs +1 in turnover differential has been pretty standard and that’s what happened in the playoff game last year.  I don’t think we’ve lost the turnover differential against them since the regular season game in 2020.  I think we got a bit unlucky against them so I was pretty surprised by your post originally.  The stage was set for a play like that two years ago when the chiefs fumbled through the end zone but we couldn’t punch it in after to win the game.  
 

yea over a big sample size historically low turnover numbers is worth noting, but in any individual game turning the ball over 0 times in a playoff situation doesn’t seem super luck based to me personally 

Edited 3 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, Gregg said:

Bring back Kay Stephenson

 

I think the Colts are currently the #1 seed. Not that it matters with 12 games left.

 

Yeah, I think they are too, and so are the Jags now as well.  But when I say in the driver seat its because I don't truly value them today as a real threat to the 1 seed over the course of the season compared to the 2 most likely preseason threats of KC and Balt.  Time can obviously prove them to be of course, but I just don't think either team is a strong 4-1 and still think Bills are in the drivers seat between the quality of our team, the reigning MVP, and our remaining schedule.

[jlgarsh]

Bruce Arians

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think we got a bit unlucky against them so I was pretty surprised by your post originally 

 

There were 4 fumbles by Buffalo and 1 fumble by KC. We recovered all 5. We've never been unlucky against the Chiefs. We've been badly out coached.

[HappyDays]

6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yeah, I think they are too, and so are the Jags now as well.  But when I say in the driver seat its because I don't truly value them today as a real threat to the 1 seed over the course of the season compared to the 2 most likely preseason threats of KC and Balt.  Time can obviously prove them to be of course, but I just don't think either team is a strong 4-1 and still think Bills are in the drivers seat between the quality of our team, the reigning MVP, and our remaining schedule.

 

Jacksonville I agree is not as good as their record and is not a threat for the #1 seed. Every time I watch their offense it feels like they are barely hanging on and something is always about to go wrong. On Indy though I don't agree. They have the best average point differential in the league at +14.8 per game. I don't think they're a powerhouse because Daniel Jones is still the QB but they are a legit threat to the #1 seed. They have a baby soft schedule and I can easily see them ending up 13-4. Tennessee stole the #1 seed a few years back under similar circumstances.

[Nihilarian]

Haters gonna hate!

 

 

It was McD that swallowed the whistle on that flagrant non-call of pass interference. The no-call occurred late in the game on a third-down incompletion intended for Bills wide receiver Khalil Shakir.

 

The missed call: Many observers believed that Patriots cornerback Christian Gonzalez made clear contact with Shakir before the ball arrived, which should have resulted in a pass interference penalty.

 

The outcome: No flag was thrown on the play. This forced the Bills to settle for a field goal try, which was missed, instead of getting a first down inside the red zone.

 

Damn him and his best pal Shawn Hochuli.

[HappyDays]

One thing that's been on my mind and this feels like the best thread to post it, is I have a growing uncertainty about Joe Brady. I've praised him for knowing what his players do well and leaning into those strengths, and I stand by that. I think that is his best trait as an OC. However I don't think he excels at understanding where the opponent is vulnerable and game planning around those weaknesses. It kind of feels like every week we just come in playing our brand of offense regardless of the defensive personnel or play calls. There's a thin line between maintaining your identity and being stubborn. I think Brady has crossed that line too much this year.

 

Pats game is a perfect example. I'm stealing this informatiom from Joe Marino's all-22 analysis. Leading up to the game Joe said the Pats have weak coverage LBs, and that one of our priorities should have been to get them into their base personnel and throw the ball into it. In his all-22 analysis he revealed that we got them into base personnel on 14 plays. But we only passed on 2 of those plays. Both passes were 20 yard completions to Kincaid. The 12 runs averaged 2.8 YPC... That represents a massive missed opportunity. We got the looks we wanted but didn't take advantage on nearly enough of them because our identity is that we run out of heavy personnel and that's that. Stubbornness hurt the offense on Sunday night.

 

Brady is a pretty simple OC and that just isn't a great match with below average pass catching talent. He doesn't do a great job of putting defenders in conflict and scheming his players open, and our players aren't talented enough to work open all on their own. So it's a bad marriage and the only possible solution this season is to add better pass catching talent because Brady obviously isn't going anywhere.

[Southern McButterpants]

Good lord, could you imagine Sean McVay coaching JA17? We'd be 5 time reigning SB Champs 😄 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Jacksonville I agree is not as good as their record and is not a threat for the #1 seed. Every time I watch their offense it feels like they are barely hanging on and something is always about to go wrong. On Indy though I don't agree. They have the best average point differential in the league at +14.8 per game. I don't think they're a powerhouse because Daniel Jones is still the QB but they are a legit threat to the #1 seed. They have a baby soft schedule and I can easily see them ending up 13-4. Tennessee stole the #1 seed a few years back under similar circumstances.

 

Thats fair, although I still dont buy them as I feel like DJ is gonna even out that team a bit, but its fair about the schedule and the Titans a couple years back

[Gunsgoodtime]

I would bring back Marv Levy at this point.  Anybody please