GoBills808 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 3 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m sure it is, to you. We can disagree. John Harbaugh’s ring does not make him a better coach than McD imo. of course it doesn't, and i suppose McDermott's no ring makes him a better coach than Harbaugh lol Quote
Augie Posted September 22 Posted September 22 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: of course it doesn't, and i suppose McDermott's no ring makes him a better coach than Harbaugh lol Of course not. I’m just pointing out how the whole ring counting thing can be misused. Quote
FireChans Posted September 22 Posted September 22 25 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m sure it is, to you. We can disagree. John Harbaugh’s ring does not make him a better coach than McD imo. I don’t think this is an honest take. If folks were clamoring for McD’s head this year and he had already won a Super Bowl in 2020, I think that’d be your first piece of evidence to support him, and rightfully so. 1 Quote
Augie Posted September 22 Posted September 22 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: I don’t think this is an honest take. If folks were clamoring for McD’s head this year and he had already won a Super Bowl in 2020, I think that’d be your first piece of evidence to support him, and rightfully so. Read what I wrote again. That was an honest take. Don’t try to convolute things. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted September 22 Posted September 22 12 minutes ago, Augie said: Read what I wrote again. That was an honest take. Don’t try to convolute things. I read what you said. its “history” because its not our guy, imo. if it was our guy, it’d be proof positive he’s great, imo. imo, that’s not an honest take. Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 22 Posted September 22 6 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Winning a few games isn’t enough anymore. A good HC coach need to elevate the play of his roster as well as Lombardis. All of the league’s top ten winningest coaches ought to be replaced. 1. Nick Sirianni – Philadelphia Eagles Regular Season Win Percentage: .709 Why He Should Be Fired: Inherited a Howie Roseman-built juggernaut and rode the “tush push” and good coordinators to NFC glory in 2022 and NFL glory in 2024. Sirianni is just along for the ride. 2. Jim Harbaugh – San Diego Chargers Regular Season Win Percentage: .679 Why He Should Be Fired: A coaching throwback. Pushes a 1960s run-first philosophy when his most talented offensive player is his QB. Militaristic, combative, rigid, not a player’s coach. Doesn’t adapt to the strengths and shortcomings of his roster; makes them adapt to him. Was a good college coach but his techniques don’t transfer to the pros; he could beat Ohio State but can’t beat Mahomes. 3. Matt Lefluer – Green Bay Packers Regular Season Win Percentage: .655 Why He Should Be Fired: Can’t win games that matter. Last season the Packers went 0–6 against top NFC teams, including two losses each to the Lions, Vikings, and Eagles. Likewise, has a losing record in the playoffs. 4. Andy Reid – Kansas City Chiefs Regular Season Win Percentage: .646 Why He Should Be Fired: Took 21 years to win his first Lombardi. If he were any good, it would have happened sooner. Only started winning trophies when Mahomes and Spags showed up. His clock management is a national joke and his walrus-like visage and sideline demeanor inspire more memes than confidence. 5. Sean McDermott – Buffalo Bills Regular Season Win Percentage: .646 Why He Should Be Fired: Never mind that he rebuilt a laughingstock franchise, developed Josh Allen, and made the playoffs six of seven years. The combination of 13 seconds and zero Lombardis, despite having a generational talent under center, ought to send him packing. 6. Kevin O’Connell – Minnesota Vikings Regular Season Win Percentage: .636 Why He Should Be Fired: No passion, can’t build a defensive coaching staff, poor clock management, poor 4th down calls, early playoff exits, a tendency to lose primetime games and games against division rivals… the list goes on and on. A nice guy coaching to be fired. 7. Mike Tomlin – Pittsburgh Steelers Regular Season Win Percentage: .617 Why He Should Be Fired: Hasn’t won a playoff game since 2016. His loyalty to Matt Canada was borderline criminal. Steelers fans are rightly tired of wild-card exits and offensive impotence. 8. John Harbaugh – Baltimore Ravens Regular Season Win Percentage: .616 Why He Should Be Fired: Improbable fourth-quarter collapses are his trademark. Most recently, blew a 15-point lead to the Bills late in the 4th despite having the better roster. One ring in 17 seasons speaks of luck, not skill. Lamar Jackson’s prime is being wasted on Harbaugh’s stubborn loyalty to underperforming coordinators. 9. Sean McVay – Los Angeles Rams Regular Season Win Percentage: .612 Why He Should Be Fired: Won a Super Bowl with a rented roster and Aaron Donald then went 5-12 the following season. Only as good as his roster. Adds nothing. He’s supposed to be an offensive genius but only managed to put up 3 points in his first SB appearance and didn’t exactly light it up in his second. 10. Sean Payton – Denver Broncos Regular Season Win Percentage: .610 Why He Should Be Fired: He only managed to drive a Ferrari named Brees to the SB once and produced a playoff win record only a smidge above .500 thanks in large part to bottom-10 defenses. His playoff woes continue with the Broncos with only one appearance in two years, a 31-7 loss to the Bills. The Broncos didn’t need a legacy hire—they need a coach who can win in the AFC West. Payton’s not that guy. I'd agree with # 7, 9, & 10. Actually Peyton is to much of a recent hire to be fired, but he probably never should have been re-hired Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 22 Posted September 22 1 hour ago, Augie said: I’m sure it is, to you. We can disagree. John Harbaugh’s ring does not make him a better coach than McD imo. Peterson won a SB in Philly and been fired twice since, so anything is possible. Agree though, Harbaugh is another one who's done very little lately. Fortunately for him, Tomlin, and even McD to a lesser degree, they have owners that aren't impulsive. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Is this really an "Fire McDermott" thread in disguise? 1 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 7 hours ago, FireChans said: It’s not clever at all because it’s clearly just a ChatGPT prompt. That format is classic AI I'm not sure if I should laugh or feel offended. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted September 22 Posted September 22 7 hours ago, FireChans said: It’s not clever at all because it’s clearly just a ChatGPT prompt. That format is classic AI If it were AI, I'm pretty sure it would have spelled Matt LaFleur correctly and associated the Chargers with Los Angeles, not San Diego. 1 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 My simple point is that even the most successful NFL coaches have failures, mistakes, and blemishes on their resumes. But as a guy who's lived through Kay Stephenson (.278), John Rauch (.268), Hank Bullough (.190), Jim Ringo (.130), and the late great Harvey Johnson (.096), I'm happy to continue with McD (.646). McD and Beane have gotten us close to the promised land. I hope they've learned from their shortfalls and find a way to get us over the hump. Improving an organization and leadership team that's been almost good enough seems like a more achievable task than starting over with a different team of flawed leaders. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 22 Posted September 22 32 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: My simple point is that even the most successful NFL coaches have failures, mistakes, and blemishes on their resumes. But as a guy who's lived through Kay Stephenson (.278), John Rauch (.268), Hank Bullough (.190), Jim Ringo (.130), and the late great Harvey Johnson (.096), I'm happy to continue with McD (.646). McD and Beane have gotten us close to the promised land. I hope they've learned from their shortfalls and find a way to get us over the hump. Improving an organization and leadership team that's been almost good enough seems like a more achievable task than starting over with a different team of flawed leaders. I did actually get where you were coming from cuz I know you're not that dumb lol Absolutely which is why I have always been in the pro McDermott camp because to think if we get rid of him that we can't get worse is crazy It's a highly stressful job.. like make your hair fall out go gray early divorce your wife type of stressful job Truly from top down it is an organization thing because you need support from everywhere and everyone And like plenty of the players in our organization say.. we are the most prepared team in the NFL And watching a lot of football and being around it my whole life.. I don't think that's a crazy statement Like McDermott could always get better every coach can get better.. do I think he's light years better than what he was 6 years ago? Absolutely Do I think his message has gotten stale with the team unlike most coaches who have been at places 8 plus years? No This team absolutely loves Sean McDermott and I'm very happy he's our head coach 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted September 22 Posted September 22 52 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: As a guy who's lived through Kay Stephenson (.278), John Rauch (.268), Hank Bullough (.190), Jim Ringo (.130), and the late great Harvey Johnson (.096), I'm happy to continue with McD (.646). \ 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted September 22 Posted September 22 14 hours ago, boater said: This is well crafted sarcasm making fun of McDermott haters... I think. I know Hondo and came to the same conclusion it has to be sarcasm teasing some of the guys who always look at the world as half empty as it pertains to any of the teams listed. Not just the Bills. Hey, I could be wrong. It really doesn’t matter. I laughed at the post. 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Part of the reason I want the Bills to get a Super Bowl so badly is to silence the McDermott haters. That said, he needs to win at least one with Allen. If he doesnt during any one of the following years and Allen asks for him to be replaced, Id go with Allen. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted September 22 Posted September 22 6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: If it were AI, I'm pretty sure it would have spelled Matt LaFleur correctly and associated the Chargers with Los Angeles, not San Diego. Oh yeah, AI definitely is never flawed or get things wrong lol Quote
Sweats Posted September 22 Posted September 22 16 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Winning a few games isn’t enough anymore. A good HC coach need to elevate the play of his roster as well as Lombardis. All of the league’s top ten winningest coaches ought to be replaced. 1. Nick Sirianni – Philadelphia Eagles Regular Season Win Percentage: .709 Why He Should Be Fired: Inherited a Howie Roseman-built juggernaut and rode the “tush push” and good coordinators to NFC glory in 2022 and NFL glory in 2024. Sirianni is just along for the ride. 2. Jim Harbaugh – San Diego Chargers Regular Season Win Percentage: .679 Why He Should Be Fired: A coaching throwback. Pushes a 1960s run-first philosophy when his most talented offensive player is his QB. Militaristic, combative, rigid, not a player’s coach. Doesn’t adapt to the strengths and shortcomings of his roster; makes them adapt to him. Was a good college coach but his techniques don’t transfer to the pros; he could beat Ohio State but can’t beat Mahomes. 3. Matt Lefluer – Green Bay Packers Regular Season Win Percentage: .655 Why He Should Be Fired: Can’t win games that matter. Last season the Packers went 0–6 against top NFC teams, including two losses each to the Lions, Vikings, and Eagles. Likewise, has a losing record in the playoffs. 4. Andy Reid – Kansas City Chiefs Regular Season Win Percentage: .646 Why He Should Be Fired: Took 21 years to win his first Lombardi. If he were any good, it would have happened sooner. Only started winning trophies when Mahomes and Spags showed up. His clock management is a national joke and his walrus-like visage and sideline demeanor inspire more memes than confidence. 5. Sean McDermott – Buffalo Bills Regular Season Win Percentage: .646 Why He Should Be Fired: Never mind that he rebuilt a laughingstock franchise, developed Josh Allen, and made the playoffs six of seven years. The combination of 13 seconds and zero Lombardis, despite having a generational talent under center, ought to send him packing. 6. Kevin O’Connell – Minnesota Vikings Regular Season Win Percentage: .636 Why He Should Be Fired: No passion, can’t build a defensive coaching staff, poor clock management, poor 4th down calls, early playoff exits, a tendency to lose primetime games and games against division rivals… the list goes on and on. A nice guy coaching to be fired. 7. Mike Tomlin – Pittsburgh Steelers Regular Season Win Percentage: .617 Why He Should Be Fired: Hasn’t won a playoff game since 2016. His loyalty to Matt Canada was borderline criminal. Steelers fans are rightly tired of wild-card exits and offensive impotence. 8. John Harbaugh – Baltimore Ravens Regular Season Win Percentage: .616 Why He Should Be Fired: Improbable fourth-quarter collapses are his trademark. Most recently, blew a 15-point lead to the Bills late in the 4th despite having the better roster. One ring in 17 seasons speaks of luck, not skill. Lamar Jackson’s prime is being wasted on Harbaugh’s stubborn loyalty to underperforming coordinators. 9. Sean McVay – Los Angeles Rams Regular Season Win Percentage: .612 Why He Should Be Fired: Won a Super Bowl with a rented roster and Aaron Donald then went 5-12 the following season. Only as good as his roster. Adds nothing. He’s supposed to be an offensive genius but only managed to put up 3 points in his first SB appearance and didn’t exactly light it up in his second. 10. Sean Payton – Denver Broncos Regular Season Win Percentage: .610 Why He Should Be Fired: He only managed to drive a Ferrari named Brees to the SB once and produced a playoff win record only a smidge above .500 thanks in large part to bottom-10 defenses. His playoff woes continue with the Broncos with only one appearance in two years, a 31-7 loss to the Bills. The Broncos didn’t need a legacy hire—they need a coach who can win in the AFC West. Payton’s not that guy. ..........fire everybody Quote
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