Illegal Streaming Site Streameast Taken Down

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

You’ve given yourself the answer. Whenever anything becomes easy to steal, people have, and always will, take advantage of that. This isn’t some new occurrence. Humans have always been this way. 

 

But usually that stealing doesn't become socially acceptable. Like you used the example of rampant shoplifting that was going on in certain areas of this country. And yes that was a real problem where shoplifting became so easy that it became common. That's not the part that surprises me. What would surprise me is if after pharmacies and stores put their items behind locked cases, the majority opinion ended up being "how dare the billionaire Walgreens company stop me from taking the granola bars that I'm entitled to." And if you tried to explain that this mindset is nuts, the average response was "nobody is really hurt by this, you're just a bootlicker." Yet for some reason with illegal streaming that is exactly what happens.

 

8 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

So, I’m curious what do you think about libraries stealing customers from authors?

 

Libraries legally own those books and they aren't charging their customers to read them - that's what make them public libraries. Once you own an item you are free to share it with anybody you'd like as long as you don't directly profit off of it. The proper analogy to libraries would be you inviting friends over to your house to watch a game on a streaming package that you own. Or more aptly a TV sports bar. That isn't stealing, that's buying the rights and then sharing the content.

[WotAGuy]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

But usually that stealing doesn't become socially acceptable. Like you used the example of rampant shoplifting that was going on in certain areas of this country. And yes that was a real problem where shoplifting became so easy that it became common. That's not the part that surprises me. What would surprise me is if after pharmacies and stores put their items behind locked cases, the majority opinion ended up being "how dare the billionaire Walgreens company stop me from taking the granola bars that I'm entitled to." And if you tried to explain that this mindset is nuts, the average response was "nobody is really hurt by this, you're just a bootlicker." Yet for some reason with illegal streaming that is exactly what happens.

 

 

Libraries legally own those books and they aren't charging their customers to read them - that's what make them public libraries. Once you own an item you are free to share it with anybody you'd like as long as you don't directly profit off of it. The proper analogy to libraries would be you inviting friends over to your house to watch a game on a streaming package that you own. Or more aptly a TV sports bar. That isn't stealing, that's buying the rights and then sharing the content.

But by using the library, aren’t you depriving the author of a sale, much like watching a stream deprives the NFL of a sale of that stream?  Also, illegal streamers aren’t charging people to view their streams, much like libraries. 

Edited September 4 by WotAGuy

[Coach Tuesday]

2 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

Not really sure basing an argument on how things were "back in the day" is a strong foundation on which to build. 

 

Some folks in this thread are being dense to the point where I hope they're trolling, or they're either just wildly out of touch and disconnected from the real world, or maybe the lead levels in their blood has finally reached a critical threshold. 

 

The NFL and the media giants which are attached two it are both inherently evil organizations owned and operated by some of the actual worst human beings alive on this planet. At this point in capitalism, they would not hesitate to actually kill you if it meant they could improve their bottom line, and guess what, a lot of them are indeed actually doing that to people all over the world, albeit at different rates depending on their method. 

 

Considering the fanbase of the Bills and the community from which it grew, I really expected a lot more sympathy for the struggling working class person in this thread. It must be delightful to be living such a privileged life that you can exist in a pure ethical and moral space, knowing you're always making the right and good choice. Good for you! I'm sure the powers that be will give you a nice little pat on the head and say thank you for playing along. 

 

Laughable to see people equating pirate streams with other forms of aggravated theft or stealing from your neighbor. Given the extreme economic disparity this country is currently facing and the almost endless number of reasons why we have arrived at this point, I can't say I really respect the opinion of anyone who isn't able to grasp the perspective of the little guy who is just doing what he can to survive, and you know, maybe actually have some joy in his otherwise mundane dog ***** life, even if he has to "steal" from a billion dollar mega corporation to find those few hours of escape from this garbage earth. 

Let me get this straight - the NFL and sports media companies are INHERENTLY EVIL and anyone who doesn’t agree with that obvious point are dense trolls?

 

INHERENTLY EVIL??

 

Again we are talking about ENTERTAINMENT companies.  They aren’t even purporting to sell basic needs.  They are a universe removed from, say, an HMO.  They are evil for selling a luxury product for more money than you think it's worth?  Evil???  

 

INHERENTLY EVIL!

 

And btw how much money do you personally spend to help prop up these INHERENTLY EVIL entities?  Aren’t you complicit in the evil if you know what you’re supporting?  

Edited September 4 by Coach Tuesday

[benderbender]

As a Netflix subscriber from 2008 to the 3rd rate increase of the pandemic, I believe in voting with your wallet and conscience. 

 

The painful truth is if there was a cheap and easy option to enjoy the NFL legally, no one would bother expending any effort otherwise. 

[Coach Tuesday]

8 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

But by using the library, aren’t you depriving the author of a sale, much like watching a stream deprives the NFL of a sale of that stream?  Also, illegal streamers aren’t charging people to view their streams, much like libraries. 

I can tell you with certainty that IP companies spend tens of millions of dollars on digital encryption and security, plus tens of millions more on updating their content more frequently because of theft.  These costs get passed on.  Just because they don’t immediately (or ever) lower their prices in response to enforcement steps doesn’t mean there are no real financial costs associated with free unlimited distribution of copyrighted IP.

[stuvian]

looks for link about blank cassettes threatening album sales

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

One gets shut down another one comes through the cracks. As long as there's internet there'll be piracy of some form.

 

Especially when it comes to streaming sports.

 

As much as that makes some unhappy, Through The Eyes of the piracies,

 

where there's a will there's a way...

 

On to the 2025 NFL season!!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[ganesh]

16 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

But by using the library, aren’t you depriving the author of a sale, much like watching a stream deprives the NFL of a sale of that stream?  Also, illegal streamers aren’t charging people to view their streams, much like libraries. 

Good analogy

[WotAGuy]

7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I can tell you with certainty that IP companies spend tens of millions of dollars on digital encryption and security, plus tens of millions more on updating their content more frequently because of theft.  These costs get passed on.  Just because they don’t immediately (or ever) lower their prices in response to enforcement steps doesn’t mean there are no real financial costs associated with free unlimited distribution of copyrighted IP.

And I can tell you with certainty I have no idea what that has to do with what you quoted me on. 🤣

[Mr. WEO]

2 laughs: it took a "yearlong investigation" to prove these guys were streaming illegally, using fake domains?

 

"Egyptian Law Enforcement"??  lol has anyone else been to Cairo?  Steameasy must have stopped paying Egyptian cops to not enter their hacker grottos.

[Coach Tuesday]

2 hours ago, ganesh said:

corporate greed is at an all time high 

Um based on WHAT?  The pre-New Deal era in the U.S. was know for some pretty depraved corporate behavior.  The East India Company of Britain subjugated entire populations.  Ever hear about the Banana Massacre?  Chiquita is still selling its wares today!

[White Linen]

11 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Again, whatever folks need to tell themselves to justify STEALING, good for them.  If you don't think that consumers are footing the bill for enhanced security measures, subscription bleed, etc., you're totally delusional IMO.  Just because you can't see all of the measures taken w/r/t digital content (as opposed to the fiberglass locking shelves at CVS, etc.), doesn't mean that expensive measures aren't being implemented.  And those of us who pay full freight are paying for them.  (Again, I know that a prevailing world view now is that if you pay full price you're a sucker.  Times have changed.)

 

I firmly agree with you morally.  Stealing is stealing and if you believe, as it appears we both do, it's wrong.  

 

Where I disagree with you is, that the paying customers are charged more because of it as a provable.  I believe wether that cost existed or not, they're setting prices based on analytical data where the consumer still says yes.  Just from the business I'm in and research I've read.

[T.E.]

2 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

Laughable to see people equating pirate streams with other forms of aggravated theft or stealing from your neighbor. Given the extreme economic disparity this country is currently facing and the almost endless number of reasons why we have arrived at this point, I can't say I really respect the opinion of anyone who isn't able to grasp the perspective of the little guy who is just doing what he can to survive, and you know, maybe actually have some joy in his otherwise mundane dog ***** life, even if he has to "steal" from a billion dollar mega corporation to find those few hours of escape from this garbage earth. 

I'm getting pretty tired of this increasingly popular opinion that's it perfectly fine to steal products and services from others as long as the victim of the theft is the more successful of the two parties. That's a bad precedent to set, as there are always people poorer than you.

[HappyDays]

54 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Also, illegal streamers aren’t charging people to view their streams, much like libraries. 

 

No but they are making money hand over fist in advertising revenue, for content they didn't create and don't own the rights to.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/breaking-news/article/streameast-the-largest-illegal-sports-streaming-service-reportedly-shut-down-after-year-long-investigation-154917542.html

 

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Two men were arrested in Egypt as part of the operation. Authorities reportedly seized laptops and smartphones that allegedly helped operate the site. The raid also uncovered a shell company, in which it's believed $6.2 million in ad revenue was laundered. Roughly $200,000 in cryptocurrency was also uncovered. It's believed multiple real estate properties in Egypt were purchased with the illicit funds, per The Athletic.

 

 

[KellysHandWarmer]

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

But by using the library, aren’t you depriving the author of a sale, much like watching a stream deprives the NFL of a sale of that stream?  Also, illegal streamers aren’t charging people to view their streams, much like libraries. 

as an author — absolutely NOT. Libraries are some of authors' biggest buyers. If every library around the country bought a copy of my new book, it would be an instant bestseller!

[Dick_Cheney]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

And the same logic could apply to shoplifting. The Walton family owns the Broncos and also owns Walmart. You could say that stealing candy bars from Walmart isn't a big deal, and you could say since the owners are billionaires that means it's totally an okay thing to do. But 99% of the population would disagree with that. Even shoplifters themselves know on some level that what they're doing is wrong. What's weird is that everyone agrees shoplifting from billionaires is wrong and shouldn't be encouraged, but streaming content illegally has absolutely zero social taboos at all. Quite the opposite, people brag about it and act personally offended when legal authorities shut it down. Like what did you really expect to happen?

 

 

For what it's worth I don't think people that stream content illegally are evil. Nor do I think shoplifters are. Absolutely there are some people in such desperate financiial situations that they have no other choice and while I don't condone the behavior I don't really begrudge them either. What gets me is that there are plenty of people who do have a choice, who could afford that one month of Netflix to watch a single game (or just choose not to watch it) but actively decide that they deserve that content for free. It's as if tens of millions of Americans all at once decided they were going to start walking out of Walmart with toiletries shoved in their pockets, and then got enraged when the stores instituted security measures to stop the endemic.

 

And yes at a macro level I do believe that such widespread illegal activity absolutely affects the overall price of these services. Because if it happened in the opposite direction of course prices would be affected. Imagine if all of a sudden Hershey lost 20% of their annual sales because 20% of their customers decided to just start stealing their candy bars. You don't think that would affect the price?

It actually is okay to steal from billionaires and it mosr definitely should be encouraged. 

 

The fact that you are saying that billionaires and working class and poverty class people should operate within the same ruleset is pretty bleak. The fact that you begrudge the people who somehow you “know” can afford things but “steals” anyway says more about you than them. 

 

At the macro level, you are wrong that shoplifting/theft impacts the price of things. It may impact the final bottom line for the retailer, but they are already charging as much as they can to give as little in return as possible. Any shoplifting impact is negligible and used as a scapegoat to increase prices because unfortunately people believe the “argument” you believe you are making. 

 

It doesnt make sense to imagine a Hershey’s theft/price inflation scenario so that’s not really worth examining. Not to mention the cocoa trade is one of the most problematic and exploitive trades on the literal planet. The assumption that billionaires and corporations are operating on the same moral and ethical plane as the rest of the world is absurd on its face. 

 

The common man should be doing everything he can to take back any shred of power and agency from these groups at every opportunity possible. So yeah. Steal that chocolate bar. Download the new Superman movie. Shoplift food and clothes for your family. 

 

 

[US Egg]

2 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:

It actually is okay to steal from billionaires and it mosr definitely should be encouraged. 

 

The fact that you are saying that billionaires and working class and poverty class people should operate within the same ruleset is pretty bleak. The fact that you begrudge the people who somehow you “know” can afford things but “steals” anyway says more about you than them. 

 

At the macro level, you are wrong that shoplifting/theft impacts the price of things. It may impact the final bottom line for the retailer, but they are already charging as much as they can to give as little in return as possible. Any shoplifting impact is negligible and used as a scapegoat to increase prices because unfortunately people believe the “argument” you believe you are making. 

 

It doesnt make sense to imagine a Hershey’s theft/price inflation scenario so that’s not really worth examining. Not to mention the cocoa trade is one of the most problematic and exploitive trades on the literal planet. The assumption that billionaires and corporations are operating on the same moral and ethical plane as the rest of the world is absurd on its face. 

 

The common man should be doing everything he can to take back any shred of power and agency from these groups at every opportunity possible. So yeah. Steal that chocolate bar. Download the new Superman movie. Shoplift food and clothes for your family. 

You like those “Purge” movies? 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

They are evil for selling a luxury product for more money than you think it's worth?  Evil???  

 

It's worth noting that Sunday Ticket at its most expensive is $522. That's for returning users who add Red Zone. Over a year that averages out to $43.50 per month. That's like two DoorDash orders. I understand there is a very very small percentage of the population to where budgeting an extra $43.50 per month would genuinely be impossible and there are no other realistic budget cuts they could make in their life. I'm not trying to belittle those people. But let's be honest, most of the people in this discussion are not in that tiny minority. Most of them just see an easy way to get out of paying for the service so they take it, because they don't want to inconvenience themselves by making small sacrifices somewhere else in their budget.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

But usually that stealing doesn't become socially acceptable. Like you used the example of rampant shoplifting that was going on in certain areas of this country. And yes that was a real problem where shoplifting became so easy that it became common. That's not the part that surprises me. What would surprise me is if after pharmacies and stores put their items behind locked cases, the majority opinion ended up being "how dare the billionaire Walgreens company stop me from taking the granola bars that I'm entitled to." And if you tried to explain that this mindset is nuts, the average response was "nobody is really hurt by this, you're just a bootlicker." Yet for some reason with illegal streaming that is exactly what happens.

 

 

Libraries legally own those books and they aren't charging their customers to read them - that's what make them public libraries. Once you own an item you are free to share it with anybody you'd like as long as you don't directly profit off of it. The proper analogy to libraries would be you inviting friends over to your house to watch a game on a streaming package that you own. Or more aptly a TV sports bar. That isn't stealing, that's buying the rights and then sharing the content.

There is literal technology in the works to try and scan and estimate the people in front of your TV to pick movie rental prices and ppvs.

 

Airlines just initiated "dynamic pricing". You know when you click "accept cookies"? If you've been shopping for hotels in Tampa Bay. Looking at fun things to do in Tampa, and then go to buy a flight there... guess what happens? Rental cars too.

 

Supermarkets are already doing this too. Not charging a fair price based on their cost and expenses, but trying to estimate where you live, how much you make, how much you buy of X, and push you each one of us to our limits. 

 

These are the people I'm supposed to shed a tear about? Nah. Theyre the ones cranking the heat - cherry red - on a pressure cooker theyre standing directly next to. They'll get what's coming to them soon enough. The only people ill feel bad for are the victims, of corporate & political greed.

 

Pirates streams are rated G compared to the Boston Tea Party... which wasn't just 'chop open and dumb some leaves'. Boston tea party had people covered in molten tar, then feathered, during an era with 1700's medicine. 

 

I won't be funding the bunkers and security theyre going to need when civilization does, the things its always done, no matter the time or geography. Some can tolerate more than others, but if you look around our society, its pretty evident, society is redlining hard.

 

Hell, the damn Grateful Dead was on PPV just last month 🤯🤯🤯🤯

 

I WILL PIRATE THINGS I DONT HAVE ANY DESIRE TO WATCH!!! Im dragging an extra TV into my living room to firestick with, for every conscientious objecter I come across in here 🤣🤣 If it means im streaming scantily dressed Tom Brady canning tomatoes on PPV, then so be it. Won't even be my 2nd weirdest nut of the month, and today is the 3rd

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, benderbender said:

The painful truth is if there was a cheap and easy option to enjoy the NFL legally, no one would bother expending any effort otherwise. 

 

I would actually like to know what kind of cost people would see as fair? If $522 is too expensive, how much lower do you think it would have to be for the large majority of illegal streamers to start paying for it? I'm genuinely curious.

 

My take is that almost no price drop would be enough to reduce the number of illegal streamers. Because once you've decided that you're entitled to the content for free, there's no reason to pay any amount of money for it as long as you have that free access.