Dion Dawkins contract restructure

[ColoradoBills]

7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Ed Oliver next?

 

Ed has nothing to restructure this season.  The next 2 years they can get a lot of cap out of his salary.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29044/ed-oliver

Edited September 3 by ColoradoBills

[twoandfourteen]

5 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

You are just delightful, please do enjoy your unfounded anger with the Buffalo Bills, lol…, 

 

I’m a realist.

 

I’m not “angry”.

 

I’m just concerned that we are wasting the best years of the best player any of us will ever see in our lifetimes. With the way that kid plays, he realistically has 3, maybe 4 seasons left as “Superman”. 

 

Allen is the type of talent that should be on his way to a dynasty — multiple Super Bowl appearances and at least one ring by now. 

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

It's like we havent been reigning AFC East champs and werent just 1 or 2 plays away from winning the AFC Championship.

 

"JAGs"... ok...

 

Anyone with even an ounce of reason would take one look at the state of the AFC East for the past eight seasons and would never tout that as an accomplishment. 

 

Winning that clown car division is probably the easiest road in all of professional sports. 

[Royale with Cheese]

13 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Ed has nothing to restructure this season.  The next 2 years they can get a lot of cap out of his salary.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29044/ed-oliver

 

So you're saying we should extend him another 3 years?

[JaCrispy]

44 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Sorry to break it to you, but Oliver’s contract was restructured months ago. Restructuring and dead cap hits don’t really impact whether a player is kept or not anymore though. Guaranteed money does.

But doesn’t it mean we will have more dead cap down the line- making it likelier that the team would keep him longer?

[Don Otreply]

12 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

I’m a realist.

 

I’m not “angry”.

 

I’m just concerned that we are wasting the best years of the best player any of us will ever see in our lifetimes. With the way that kid plays, he realistically has 3, maybe 4 seasons left as “Superman”. 

 

Allen is the type of talent that should be on his way to a dynasty — multiple Super Bowl appearances and at least one ring by now. 

 

Anyone with even an ounce of reason would take one look at the state of the AFC East for the past eight seasons and would never tout that as an accomplishment. 

 

Winning that clown car division is probably the easiest road in all of professional sports. 

You’re aren’t a realist in the slightest, I’ll bet you said repeatedly last preseason how bad the team was going to be, didn’t you, turns out your “realist” self was just plain wrong, 

 

Try to enjoy the season with your friends  🍻 🌭 🌭 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

 

Haha on Poyer. 

 

The good Dr is misreading Spotrac however, Knox’s contract allows for him to be released with a $7.4M dead cap NEXT offseason. His salary this season is already fully guaranteed so he’s not a release candidate until 2026. 

 

We were talking about next year 

 

See ngbills post that starts "Names to look out for in 2026 if this year does not go well."

 

All good!

[twoandfourteen]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

You’re aren’t a realist in the slightest, I’ll bet you said repeatedly last preseason how bad the team was going to be, didn’t you, turns out your “realist” self was just plain wrong, 

 

Try to enjoy the season with your friends  🍻 🌭 🌭 

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

Nope. Last preseason I said that this roster still lacked a legitimate blue-chip, elite player to ride shotgun with the All-Universe QB and that Allen (along with another joke of an AFC East) would cover the failings of McDermott and Beane while carrying the team to another playoff exit. Turns out I was absolutely correct. 

 

Mahomes has Kelce.

Jackson has Henry.

Burrow has Chase.

 

Allen had no one last year and he still doesn’t have anyone. 

 

Beane has failed to build around this QB and continues to flush Allen’s career down the toilet. 

[Don Otreply]

1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

Nope. Last preseason I said that this roster still lacked a legitimate blue-chip, elite player to ride shotgun with the All-Universe QB and that Allen (along with another joke of an AFC East) would cover the failings of McDermott and Beane while carrying the team to another playoff exit. Turns out I was absolutely correct. 

 

Mahomes has Kelce.

Jackson has Henry.

Burrow has Chase.

 

Allen had no one last year and he still doesn’t have anyone. 

 

Beane has failed to build around this QB and continues to flush Allen’s career down the toilet. 

lol,

[ColoradoBills]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

So you're saying we should extend him another 3 years?

 

Just saying Beane can't restructure to get extra cap this year.

[BarleyNY]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We were talking about next year 

 

See ngbills post that starts "Names to look out for in 2026 if this year does not go well."

 

All good!

 

Oops. Sorry. Carry on. 

[BillsFanForever19]

Funny, I made a post about this a few days back and was ridiculed for insinuating we could be Over the Cap as was suggested by Spotrac and that a restructure was coming....

 

With all the moves today by teams to free money, it appears they had a leeway period that ended today. Spotrac had us as very over the cap before this move. After it, they have us at being 1.5m under. Over the Cap lists us as 6.3m over the cap still which must mean they haven't figured in the Dion restructure yet. So they'll have us a few thousand higher than Spotrac.

 

Wouldn't surprise me if we did another cost saving move bc 1.5-2m under isn't much of an in season spending pool.

 

Either way, this wasn't a move to clear space for "PePpErS?". This was just to get us out from the hole we were under.

 

 

Edited September 4 by BillsFanForever19

[BarleyNY]

3 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

But doesn’t it mean we will have more dead cap down the line- making it likelier that the team would keep him longer?

I think some GMs worry about the optics of cutting a player with a lot of dead cap. But as long as the total dead cap across the roster is in line with what was planned for, then there’s no problem. You don’t want dead cap from future guarantees because that means you signed a player to a bad contract. But kicking cap down the road is a good way to outspend other teams. 

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

Nope. Last preseason I said that this roster still lacked a legitimate blue-chip, elite player to ride shotgun with the All-Universe QB and that Allen (along with another joke of an AFC East) would cover the failings of McDermott and Beane while carrying the team to another playoff exit. Turns out I was absolutely correct. 

 

Mahomes has Kelce.

Jackson has Henry.

Burrow has Chase.

 

Allen had no one last year and he still doesn’t have anyone. 

 

Beane has failed to build around this QB and continues to flush Allen’s career down the toilet. 

The fact you try to bring Kelce in this who is washed lol

 

And using your argument 13 teams have a playoff exit and 31 don't win it... so 31 coaches and GMS are failures according to you lol

 

You weren't right on anything

Edited September 4 by Buffalo716

[twoandfourteen]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The fact you try to bring Kelce in this who is washed lol

 

And using your argument 13 teams have a playoff exit and 31 don't win it... so 31 coaches and GMS are failures according to you lol

 

You weren't right on anything

 

So you’re just going to ignore the past seven seasons where Kelce built his Hall of Fame career with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid? All those rings and SB appearances don’t count. Got it. 

 

"Critical thinking” — give it a try sometime. 

 

I don’t care about those other teams. I care about this team that is wasting the best years of arguably one of the best ever football players in NFL history. 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

31 minutes ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

So you’re just going to ignore the past seven seasons where Kelce built his Hall of Fame career with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid? All those rings and SB appearances don’t count. Got it. 

 

"Critical thinking” — give it a try sometime. 

 

I don’t care about those other teams. I care about this team that is wasting the best years of arguably one of the best ever football players in NFL history. 

 

 

I don't even think you're a bills fan lol and we have played the Chiefs severely handicapped every single year 

 

Not even with long-term injuries.. that we had 9 weeks to prepare for which there's no excuses for... Von Miller getting hurt week 8 irrelevant 

 

The last 2 years we have played the Chiefs completely handicapped on the defensive side of the ball with fresh injuries which in a game of inches in the playoffs where the talent margin is so slim is the difference 

 

Last year alone we had 11 players going into the game on injury report ... Lots of them key contributors... We ended up playing without our best safety and best cornerback and dinged up guys 

 

When we saw the Chiefs without two players in their secondary Gabe Davis looked like Jerry Rice... He literally was unstoppable and so was Josh Allen... Our injuries did not make their receivers look like Jerry Rice 

 

2 years ago we got them without our starting middle linebacker and Captain. 

 Christian Benford again.. Taylor rapp a contributing safety, and a couple other guys... With again a bunch of contributors banged up 

 

And we lost by three again 

 

If we have Terrell Bernard and Christian Benford we win that game.. if we had rapp and Benford last year we win 

 

We barely lost as is that's it we need to be healthy

 

The talent margin is so slim you need to be healthy and lucky.. we've had none .. AKA refs spotting piss poor Josh Allen QB sneaks 

 

Tyler bass missing a field goal to tie 

 

Zero breaks

Edited September 4 by Buffalo716

[Richard Noggin]

5 hours ago, RochesterLifer said:

Short of the Super Bowl (which most of us are hoping for), it is mathematically impossible to get "much better." Step out of Utica and into reality.

 

Says the guy from Rochester, I love it. More I-90 turf wars! Herkimer can get WRECKED

Edited September 4 by Richard Noggin

[RochesterLifer]

2 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Says the guy from Rochester, I love it. More I-90 turf wars! Herkimer can get WRECKED

Not so much about Utica. It was, admittedly, a cheap shot. I just get fed up with the haters trashing the team.

[Richard Noggin]

6 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

Not so much about Utica. It was, admittedly, a cheap shot. I just get fed up with the haters trashing the team.

 

I mean, Batavia. Am I right?

[MJS]

8 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Then why does this team feel like it’s not much better than last years?

Because you haven't seen them play yet and because the Bills have been a top 3 to 5 team for years now and any improvements are going to be marginal because they are already really good every year.

5 hours ago, twoandfourteen said:

I’m a realist.

I've noticed that every person who claims to be a realist is, in fact, a pessimist.

[uticaclub]

34 minutes ago, MJS said:

Because you haven't seen them play yet and because the Bills have been a top 3 to 5 team for years now and any improvements are going to be marginal because they are already really good every year.

I've noticed that every person who claims to be a realist is, in fact, a pessimist.

If we were a top 3 team over 5 years you think we would have made one Super Bowl. 

1 hour ago, RochesterLifer said:

Not so much about Utica. It was, admittedly, a cheap shot. I just get fed up with the haters trashing the team.

Trashing the team vs pointing out the obvious flaws are completely different.