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On 8/29/2025 at 11:27 AM, Logic said:


Parsons IS an amazing asset.

This "he can't stop the run" thing is silly. You're right, he can't. I remember the Bills game where they ran right at him.

You're not paying him to stop the run. You're paying him to bring down the opposing quarterback.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that the Cowboys defense will be better against the run this year. .....And much worse at bringing down the opposing quarterback.

If it's me, and my defense stinks but I have one or two really good defenders, I'm retaining those guys and then building around them. Swapping out the pieces that aren't so good. Upgrading over the players that need to be upgraded over. What I'm NOT doing is saying "meh, defense stinks anyway, might as well get rid of our one blue chip defensive player".

To each their own. I think the "highest paid non-QB" top 10 players list speaks for itself. Get a quarterback, protect that quarterback and give him a weapon, bring down the opposing quarterback. Those are the priorities.

Stopping the run on 1st and 2nd down is lovely. But if it's 3rd and 8 and the QB has all day to throw because you shipped away a blue chip EDGE, what good did the run stopping do ya?

Understand your thought process.  
 

I don’t like the way defense is played in general these days. Depending on one great edge rusher seems a bit too hit or miss.  Parsons had 12 sacks per year.  That’s nice, but not monumental.  In 1995 when the Bills had Bryce Paup he had 15 sacks and Bruce had more than that.  Bringing constant pressure from your defense like 1985 Bears is never done anymore.  It’s 3rd and 20 and maybe teams rush 4 and set up a picket fence at the sticks. Stupid IMO. Rush 6 and make the QB be perfect.  You don’t need guys making $47 mill to do that.  
 

Something about Parsons doesn’t sit well w me.  Demarcus Lawrence didn’t like him much either, and he was the leader of their D for years.  Don’t want those me guys on my team. 

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Can't locate my comment a while back about Parsons having his back looked at. Didn't think it was that bad to disrupt extension negotiations though. We need a banged up bills type to explain how bad that is.

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3 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

Thought I saw on th scroll yesterday that Jerry extended a CB for big dollars.  Would not doubt that he pushed that extension through because of the Parsons situation.

DaRon Bland, 4 years $92M. Makes the Benford deal look even sweeter.

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Posted
2 hours ago, McBean said:

Hot Take:

 

Dallas will be better long term without him.

 

*ducks*

100% agree. But i would have wanted a better return. I would have waited longer if i was jerruh.

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17 hours ago, McBean said:

Hot Take:

 

Dallas will be better long term without him.

 

*ducks*


Agree and said the same thing when the trade was announced.  
 

$47m for a non QB is insanity.

 

Now add a one dimensional player who can be neutralized when your team has a lead or close game and you can run right at him and it gets comically bad contract.

 

In 2023 Dallas had:  #1 offense in the NFL, NFL passing leader, top end weapons, the #5 defense in the NFL, the NFL leader in INT at CB, and Micah Parsons.  Yet they got beat embarrassingly by good teams when they just ran right at them like we did that year.  
 

And that 2023 season ended with a beat down in the Playoffs where that #5 defense with the league leader in interceptions and Micah Parsons gave up 48 points to the Packers including 3 passing TDs (so much for the pass rush) and 3 rushing TDS to Aaron Jones (because Packers just got to run a lot with a lead and Dallas couldn’t stop it).

 

Micah is NOT a $47m a year difference maker, not even close.  He’s not nearly as good as the guy making $7m less per year in Myles Garrett, not even close.  
 

And now he has back issues, which was known before the trade by the way lol.  Packers need to win the SB this year or this trade will blow up in their face because now they lack the cap flexibility and first round draft picks to build a better roster moving forward is this one isn’t good enough to get it done this year.  

If Packers win the SB this year, 100% worth it.  But I don’t think they will and  this is gonna go down as a mistake for them IMHO.

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Dallas won this trade. Said it when it happened and it'll pan out. 

 

For it to work in GB's favor, a bunch of things need to happen: 

 

1. Parsons needs to stay healthy (already having some issues and he hasn't practiced or taken contact yet) 

2. Parsons needs to make a huge impact on defense. (if he's banged up that could limit his snaps, availability, impact, or all 3) 

3. Parsons needs to make a huge impact for multiple years. 

4. Green Bay needs to overcome LaFleur's overrated coaching and system that feasts on the cupcake of a conference that is the NFC, then folds when they play one of the 3-4 good teams in the NFC come playoff time. 

5. Jordan Love needs to be a top 5-6 QB to get the team where it needs to go and overcome LaFleur as well. 

 

Green Bay is a good team, no doubt. Last year when Love was injured they looked literally the exact same with the backup QB. They run the ball, run the ball some more, then run it some more. QB is called upon to make a few throws. Works against the bottom feeders that make up most of the NFC, but when it's show time the issue is not the defense but LaFleur's overrated system that gets exposed every time once they play another good team. 

 

I am no Lafleur fan as a HC, in case that wasn't clear. But one thing is for sure: no HC that I can remember has garnered more respect and "name" off of mediocre results than him. The guy had prime Aaron Rodgers for multiple years and ZERO to show for it. Nothing. Multiple MVP seasons from a HOF QB and not even a SB berth. 

 

The supposedly "overrated" Tomlin got his HOF level QB to 2 SBs and won 1, having to get past prime Peyton Manning, prime Tom Brady, and the Ravens defenses that got Baltimore to a SB win in that window as well. 

 

I just don't get the love for LaFleur as a HC. If he's great then Tomlin is top 5. 

 

Meanwhile, Jerry Jones now has a couple extra 1st round picks for the HC he'll hire next season when he can do the full search. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Dallas won this trade. Said it when it happened and it'll pan out. 

 

For it to work in GB's favor, a bunch of things need to happen: 

 

1. Parsons needs to stay healthy (already having some issues and he hasn't practiced or taken contact yet) 

2. Parsons needs to make a huge impact on defense. (if he's banged up that could limit his snaps, availability, impact, or all 3) 

3. Parsons needs to make a huge impact for multiple years. 

4. Green Bay needs to overcome LaFleur's overrated coaching and system that feasts on the cupcake of a conference that is the NFC, then folds when they play one of the 3-4 good teams in the NFC come playoff time. 

5. Jordan Love needs to be a top 5-6 QB to get the team where it needs to go and overcome LaFleur as well. 

 

Green Bay is a good team, no doubt. Last year when Love was injured they looked literally the exact same with the backup QB. They run the ball, run the ball some more, then run it some more. QB is called upon to make a few throws. Works against the bottom feeders that make up most of the NFC, but when it's show time the issue is not the defense but LaFleur's overrated system that gets exposed every time once they play another good team. 

 

I am no Lafleur fan as a HC, in case that wasn't clear. But one thing is for sure: no HC that I can remember has garnered more respect and "name" off of mediocre results than him. The guy had prime Aaron Rodgers for multiple years and ZERO to show for it. Nothing. Multiple MVP seasons from a HOF QB and not even a SB berth. 

 

The supposedly "overrated" Tomlin got his HOF level QB to 2 SBs and won 1, having to get past prime Peyton Manning, prime Tom Brady, and the Ravens defenses that got Baltimore to a SB win in that window as well. 

 

I just don't get the love for LaFleur as a HC. If he's great then Tomlin is top 5. 

 

Meanwhile, Jerry Jones now has a couple extra 1st round picks for the HC he'll hire next season when he can do the full search. 

 

 

 

Neither of Tomlin's SB runs had games against Manning or Brady.  

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33 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Neither of Tomlin's SB runs had games against Manning or Brady.  

 

They were in the AFC and therefore in the way, as were the Ravens of course. 

 

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2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Dallas won this trade.

TBD. If the two players they come away with in the first round are equivalent to Kaiir Elam and Tremaine Edmunds type of production - and Micah continues his first ballot Hall of Fame trajectory - then Dallas loses easily, even with the gargantuan contract Parsons received. Some of you are undervaluing just how disruptive Parsons is and Jerry could’ve had him for $10M less if he wasn’t such a boob.

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26 minutes ago, Brand J said:

TBD. If the two players they come away with in the first round are equivalent to Kaiir Elam and Tremaine Edmunds type of production - and Micah continues his first ballot Hall of Fame trajectory - then Dallas loses easily, even with the gargantuan contract Parsons received. Some of you are undervaluing just how disruptive Parsons is and Jerry could’ve had him for $10M less if he wasn’t such a boob.

 

That's a good point... You have to hit on the picks. Unless you don't. Dallas could trade them for an established player. 

 

Now they have 3. They could trade 3 #1's and get almost any player on the market. OR move around the draft, all sorts of stuff. 

 

They are set up great for the new HC. I don't take their current guy seriously, he was just in the building once Big Mike unexpectedly walked. 

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1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

That's a good point... You have to hit on the picks. Unless you don't. Dallas could trade them for an established player. 

 

Now they have 3. They could trade 3 #1's and get almost any player on the market. OR move around the draft, all sorts of stuff. 

 

They are set up great for the new HC. I don't take their current guy seriously, he was just in the building once Big Mike unexpectedly walked. 

Assuming Micah continues to be the player Green Bay traded for, it’s only a win for the Cowpokes if the two picks are at least second team All Pros at some point in their careers or perennial Pro Bowlers (starters, not alternates). If they only amount to just being good role players, then GB won and history says that’s most likely all they’ll be. But you’re right, Cowpokes could trade for a disgruntled proven All Pro. But would Jerry do it?

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2 hours ago, Brand J said:

TBD. If the two players they come away with in the first round are equivalent to Kaiir Elam and Tremaine Edmunds type of production - and Micah continues his first ballot Hall of Fame trajectory - then Dallas loses easily, even with the gargantuan contract Parsons received. Some of you are undervaluing just how disruptive Parsons is and Jerry could’ve had him for $10M less if he wasn’t such a boob.

Good offensive coaches can take Parsons out of the game.  He is one player.  And many NFL offensive tackles are pretty dam good.  Then you get a back to chip him, and he is nothing special.  
 

it’s still a team game on both sides of the ball.  
 

Parsons is not LT Ronnie Lott Ray Lewis Reggie White or Bruce.  The media hype is constant in today’s game 24/7/365.  It deify’s good players into god’s.  So we all think he is so amazing.  He gets 12 sacks per year and gets bullied against the run. 
 

Enough said. 

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45 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Good offensive coaches can take Parsons out of the game.  He is one player.  And many NFL offensive tackles are pretty dam good.  Then you get a back to chip him, and he is nothing special.  
 

it’s still a team game on both sides of the ball.  
 

Parsons is not LT Ronnie Lott Ray Lewis Reggie White or Bruce.  The media hype is constant in today’s game 24/7/365.  It deify’s good players into god’s.  So we all think he is so amazing.  He gets 12 sacks per year and gets bullied against the run. 
 

Enough said. 

Well this is a rather simplistic view of what Parsons brings to a defense. I don’t know if it’s cope or delusion. “He’s just a 12 sack a year guy and gets bullied in the run game. Nothing amazing.” 😅 You do realize he’s on path to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, right? The media doesn’t produce on the field, Parsons does. He’s the ONLY player in NFL history to get at least 12 sacks his first four years. Never mind the fact that defensive coordinators have to account for him, or gameplan for him specifically, or the amount of plays he blows up that doesn’t appear on the stat sheet, or that one of the best LTs in the game - Jordan Mailata - just said “thank god he’s out of the division.” 

What Parsons has accomplished in 4 years:

NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (2021)

2× First-team All-Pro (2021, 2022)

Second-team All-Pro (2023)

4× Pro Bowl (2021–2024)

63 TFLs

112 QB hits
9 FFs

A league leading 20% pressure rate (min 500 pass rushes)

And now the highest paid defender in football.

 

But he’s nothing special…

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