How Good was Diggs Really?

[Kaenon]

 

With Allen: 

5,319 total rec. yards

80.6 rec ypg 

0.56 TD per game 

 

Without Allen: 

4,623 total rec. yards 

59 rec ypg

0.42  TD per game

 

🤔

Edited 2 hours ago by Kaenon
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[Breakout Squad]

He was good until he wasn’t. 

[QCity]

He was cryptically good.

[Buffalo Ballin]

He was elite. Arguably, Top 3 NFL WR during his time with us.

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

He was elite. Arguably, Top 3 NFL WR during his time with us.

 

This.  I would say top 5, but he had a case for top 3 for his first 2 1/2 seasons here.  

[RoscoeParrish]

Elite

 

part of the reason Allen became elite

 

worth every second of his time here until the end

[GoBills808]

Very good wideout 

Not elite until he got here and fading quickly afterwards

[Special K]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

He was elite. Arguably, Top 3 NFL WR during his time with us.

 

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

This.  I would say top 5, but he had a case for top 3 for his first 2 1/2 seasons here.  

 

1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Elite

 

part of the reason Allen became elite

 

worth every second of his time here until the end

 

I think what the OP is trying to say is that Allen was responsible for making him look elite, as his numbers with Allen are much better than without.

 

IMO, the Offense actually got better last year without Diggs, and Allen had an MVP season.....I think the case can be made for this theory.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I just feel such great relief with him not being here anymore.

[PrimeTime101]

I don't hate Diggs. I hated his drama. 

 

Outside that.. He came to Buffalo.. Immediately hooked up with JA and Balled.

 

But just like his last team.. Drama boy ruined his rep. 

[Alphadawg7]

32 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

 

 

I think what the OP is trying to say is that Allen was responsible for making him look elite, as his numbers with Allen are much better than without.

 

IMO, the Offense actually got better last year without Diggs, and Allen had an MVP season.....I think the case can be made for this theory.

 

No worries, I get it, I know what the OP was asking.  My response is that IMHO the game tape on Diggs says and shows how talented he was.  Talent and fit are very different things, and while Diggs had immense talent (still some of the best feet and routes I have ever seen), his personality clashed with the vibe of this locker room and wore down the relationship.  And it was magnified by Brady's offense going away "featuring" a target which also allowed Josh to play less reckless and minimize mistakes by getting rid of those forced error turnovers.  

 

As far as the MVP goes, not having Diggs (or Davis) helped his case for the MVP because Burrow and Lamar had better stats, but Allen had a better record while working with less weapons around him.  

[ganesh]

26 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I don't hate Diggs. I hated his drama. 

 

Outside that.. He came to Buffalo.. Immediately hooked up with JA and Balled.

 

But just like his last team.. Drama boy ruined his rep. 

He disappeared in the Playoffs...If he would have dominated in the playoffs we would have won the SB a couple of times during his tenure. 

[Nephilim17]

He was a top-five regular-season wide receiver. Give the man his due. The numbers don't lie.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

How good was Randy Moss?

Well he had one season over 1300 yards with Brady, and 5 season over 1300 yards with Duante Culpepper. 

 

So I guess the real question is who is really the GOAT? Looks like Culpepper is much better than Brady and Allen. 

15 minutes ago, ganesh said:

He disappeared in the Playoffs...If he would have dominated in the playoffs we would have won the SB a couple of times during his tenure. 

Wow I didnt know Diggs played defense too? Who was he covering with 13 seconds left to play? 

[RoscoeParrish]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

 

 

 

I think what the OP is trying to say is that Allen was responsible for making him look elite, as his numbers with Allen are much better than without.

 

IMO, the Offense actually got better last year without Diggs, and Allen had an MVP season.....I think the case can be made for this theory.

Is there a wide receiver whose numbers don’t get better with a great QB?

 

Allen had an MVP type season because he individually played incredible despite his weapons, with the loss of Diggs, being much worse.

 

Diggs was putting up 1000 yard seasons with Case Keenum at QB. He was a great player.

Edited 20 minutes ago by RoscoeParrish

[GoBills808]

17 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

How good was Randy Moss?

Well he had one season over 1300 yards with Brady, and 5 season over 1300 yards with Duante Culpepper. 

 

So I guess the real question is who is really the GOAT? Looks like Culpepper is much better than Brady and Allen. 

Wow I didnt know Diggs played defense too? Who was he covering with 13 seconds left to play? 

Randy Moss actually was the goat tho

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, Kaenon said:

 

With Allen: 

5,319 total rec. yards

80.6 rec ypg 

0.56 TD per game 

 

Without Allen: 

4,623 total rec. yards 

59 rec ypg

0.42  TD per game

 

🤔

 

Stop. I know his exit was bad. And that Bills fans dislike him bc of it. But he was great before his last year with the team. And he was great with us for the first half of that season. Even in Houston last season, he was on pace for a 1125 yard season had he not gone down after 7.5 games.

 

Of course his numbers with Josh were better than with Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum, and Kirk Cousins. Josh is a much better Quarterback than all of them. And it took a couple years before he became who he became in Minnesota and he missed over half the year last season.

 

Again, I get he's not well liked and for good reason. But discounting how great he was with us for 3 and a half years and how great he was before late 2023 is ridiculous. He was quite possibly the best WR to ever lineup for the Bills and the smoothest route runner I've probably ever seen.

Edited 9 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19

[Nihilarian]

He was elite against some teams...until the playoffs the last few years in Buffalo. He would disappear in big games as in his last game in 2023 against the Chiefs. Diggs had 8 targets for 3 receptions for 21 yards and a fumble. The Chiefs had their best CB on him for the first half of that game and then moved him to cover Shakir in the second half. 

 

Shakir had 9 targets for 7 receptions for 44 yards, 1 TD. That one touchdown by Shakir in the second half was the ONLY touchdown of the entire season allowed by KC CB L'Jarius Sneed.

 

Diggs was good until he wasn't...and a drama queen. 

 

He will probably look good at the beginning of the season for NE and then drop off as the season goes on. 

Edited 2 minutes ago by Nihilarian

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Is there a wide receiver whose numbers don’t get better with a great QB?

 

Allen had an MVP type season because he individually played incredible despite his weapons, with the loss of Diggs, being much worse.

 

Diggs was putting up 1000 yard seasons with Case Keenum at QB. He was a great player.

Hopkins was doing 1500 w Tom Savage and Brian Hoyer

[Neo]

35 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

How good was Randy Moss?

Well he had one season over 1300 yards with Brady, and 5 season over 1300 yards with Duante Culpepper. 

 

So I guess the real question is who is really the GOAT? Looks like Culpepper is much better than Brady and Allen. 

Wow I didnt know Diggs played defense too? Who was he covering with 13 seconds left to play? 

 

 

Diggs:   3 receptions, 7 yards, 5 yard long.   Maybe he did play defense that game.