Good Night / Bad Night - Pre-season game 1

[GunnerBill]

It's pre-season football which means by no popular acclaim whatsoever it's time for the annual tradition like no other..... it's Gunner's Good Night / Bad Night as the New York Football Giants left Orchard Park victorious. By the way... did you know a new stadium is being built? Yea, right across the street apparently. Oh and there was some football happening too. Here is how it went down!

 

Good Night for...

 

Joe Andreessen - This time last year Buffalo Joe just felt like a nice story. Even coming into the spring I thought there was a chance it was a one year deal and he would be off the roster in 2025. But far from that he got the start here alongside Matt Milano in the absence of Terrel Bernard who has been nursing a hamstring injury through camp. Andreessen was typically active including a nice tackle for loss in the second quarter and was calling the defense. He looks pretty settled in as the backup MLB at this stage and the fairy tale looks like continuing into a second year. 

 

Mitch Trubisky - Their stat lines ended up being similar as Mike White rebounded to lead touchdown drives the last two times he took to the field. However, the eye test told you pretty clearly who looked more comfortable running the offense and who threw the more accurate balls. Add to that Trubsiky's mobility allows you to create more ways of generating offense in the worst case scenario where your backup has to play meaningful football. His grip on the backup job just tightened. 

 

Deone Walker - The 4th round rookie was not my favourite pick of the past draft and this was not a perfect debut. My concerns over his pad level and ability to bend remain and I think he gave up leverage a couple of times trying to play the run. But flashed in pass defense, getting a hand on one ball and being a constant disruptive force in the middle of the defensive line. I am not sure he is going to be a high snap count guy as a rookie but I can absolutely see him being used as an impactful situational player because he flashes those traits that are hard to buy at that size.  

 

Tyrell Shavers - Ultimately I still think Shavers' route to a spot on the 53 is narrow. But he has separated throughout camp into a category almost of his own where he is behind the top five guys but clearly ahead of the other receivers. His chances might depend on who wins the returner job, because if Laviska Shenault wins it then there is no chance they keep Shavers as a WR7. But if Shenault does not then them keeping a 6th receiver would appear to tilt towards Shavers making it after two years on the practice squad. I still suspect he is cut (and they try to sneak him onto the PS again) but this might be the toughest cut to make. 

 

Te'Cory Couch - Couch was a player that flashed last pre-season too but this was a really impressive display with two pass breakups, a big tackle in the run game when the Giants were backed up and another excellent coverage rep. I don't see a route to the 53 here for him but if he keeps making plays when he gets his opportunity then the chances of him earning a spot on an active roster elsewhere increases significantly. 

 

 

Bad Night for...

 

3rd down defense - The Giants were 9 for 19 on third down for 43% - which is exactly where the Bills were in 2024 percentage wise and that was good for 29th in the NFL. At times in the first half it felt even worse than that number suggests. This is a sustained issue now under Bobby Babich's coordinating and he better be feeling the heat to get it fixed. The Bills do not seem able to dictate in any way to the offense on 3rd down. Even when it is 3rd and long. 

 

Zach Davidson - Okay Jackson Hawes, Davidson's competition for TE3, had a bad drop as well but he has ways to make this team without being a big time receiving threat. Davidson doesn't and he had two brutal drops today. You could see his frustration on the field. That felt like a man who knew he was letting his chance pass him by. 

 

Landon Jackson - Let me start with this - Landon Jackson is never going to be a big time quick twitch, bendy edge rusher. That is not how he is going to win. But he looked very stiff and upright today and really struggled when his blockers got the first punch in within a rep. You'd want to see a little more fluidity through the hips and a little better use of the hands. The story at Arkansas was his inconsistency... the Bills have time to bring him along slowly... but it was an inauspicious beginning. 

 

Michael Hoecht - Ugh that was rough. Hoecht will miss the first six weeks of the regular season through a doping ban so you would have wanted to see him go full gas in pre-season. And to an extent he did, but in a really reckless way. He ran himself out of multiple plays, struggled to generate pressure on the Quarterback and left wide open escape lanes for dump offs, screens and QB run plays. The Bills are committed for three years so as soon as he is healthy he will be back in the fold, but he has some work to do. Guys who lose gap discipline and freelance in their rush plan don't tend to end up in Coach McDermott's good books. 

 

Dane Jackson - I think he probably faced an uphill battle to make the roster in any event but Jackson was outplayed by the likes of Dorian Strong and the aforementioned Te'Cory Couch let alone the starter. Wasn't just that he was beat for the long touchdown but he didn't quite seem the same fundamentally sound guy we remember from his first spell in Buffalo. I doubt this is the final good bye as I imagine sneaking him to one of the six practice squad spots saved for vets will be relatively achievable but he did not help his cause today.

 

 

Flame away folks, there will be another of these next week!

Edited 2 hours ago by GunnerBill

[oldmanfan]

Shavers replaces Mack Hollins on this year’s team

[NickelCity]

I don't disagree with any of that TBH. I'd only add that Shenault looked like the best returner...making Shavers an even more painful cut.

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

It's pre-season football which means by no popular acclaim whatsoever it's time for the annual tradition like no other..... it's Gunner's Good Night / Bad Night as the New York Football Giants left Orchard Park victorious. By the way... did you know a new stadium is being built? Yea, right across the street apparently. Oh and there was some football happening too. Here is how it went down!

 

Good Night for...

 

Joe Andreessen - This time last year Buffalo Joe just felt like a nice story. Even coming into the spring I thought there was a chance it was a one year deal and he would be off the roster in 2025. But far from that he got the start here alongside Matt Milano in the absence of Terrel Bernard who has been nursing a hamstring injury through camp. Andreessen was typically active including a nice tackle for loss in the second quarter and was calling the defense. He looks pretty settled in as the backup MLB at this stage and the fairy tale looks like continuing into a second year. 

 

Mitch Trubisky - Their stat lines ended up being similar as Mike White rebounded to lead touchdown drives the last two times he took to the field. However, the eye test told you pretty clearly who looked more comfortable running the offense and who threw the more accurate balls. Add to that Trubsiky's mobility allows you to create more ways of generating offense in the worst case scenario where your backup has to play meaningful football. His grip on the backup job just tightened. 

 

Deone Walker - The 4th round rookie was not my favourite pick of the past draft and this was not a perfect debut. My concerns over his pad level and ability to bend remain and I think he gave up leverage a couple of times trying to play the run. But flashed in pass defense, getting a hand on one ball and being a constant disruptive force in the middle of the defensive line. I am not sure he is going to be a high snap count guy as a rookie but I can absolutely see him being used as an impactful situational player because he flashes those traits that are hard to buy at that size.  

 

Tyrell Shavers - Ultimately I still think Shavers' route to a spot on the 53 is narrow. But he has separated throughout camp into a category almost of his own where he is behind the top five guys but clearly ahead of the other receivers. His chances might depend on who wins the returner job, because if Laviska Shenault wins it then there is no chance they keep Shavers as a WR7. But if Shenault does not then them keeping a 6th receiver would appear to tilt towards Shavers making it after two years on the practice squad. I still suspect he is cut (and they try to sneak him onto the PS again) but this might be the toughest cut to make. 

 

Te'Cory Couch - Couch was a player that flashed last pre-season too but this was a really impressive display with two pass breakups, a big tackle in the run game when the Giants were backed up and another excellent coverage rep. I don't see a route to the 53 here for him but if he keeps making plays when he gets his opportunity then the chances of him earning a spot on an active roster elsewhere increases significantly. 

 

 

Bad Night for...

 

3rd down defense - The Giants were 9 for 19 on third down for 43% - which is exactly where the Bills were in 2024 percentage wise and that was good for 29th in the NFL. At times in the first half it felt even worse than that number suggests. This is a sustained issue now under Bobby Babich's coordinating and he better be feeling the heat to get it fixed. The Bills do not seem able to dictate in any way to the offense on 3rd down. Even when it is 3rd and long. 

 

Zach Davidson - Okay Jackson Hawes, Davidson's competition for TE3, had a bad drop as well but he has ways to make this team without being a big time receiving threat. Davidson doesn't and he had two brutal drops today. You could see his frustration on the field. That felt like a man who knew he was letting his chance pass him by. 

 

Landon Jackson - Let me start with this - Landon Jackson is never going to be a big time quick twitch, bendy edge rusher. That is not how he is going to win. But he looked very stuff and upright today and really struggled when his blockers got the first punch in within a rep. You'd want to see a little more fluidity through the hips and a little better use of the hands. The story at Arkansas was his inconsistency... the Bills have time to bring him along slowly... but it was an inauspicious beginning. 

 

Michael Hoecht - Ugh that was rough. Hoecht will miss the first six weeks of the regular season through a doping ban so you would have wanted to see him go full gas in pre-season. And to an extent he did, but in a really reckless way. He ran himself out of multiple plays, struggled to generate pressure on the Quarterback and left wide open escape lanes for dump offs, screens and QB run plays. The Bills are committed for three years so as soon as he is healthy he will be back in the fold, but he has some work to do. Guys who lose gap discipline and freelance in their rush plan don't tend to end up in Coach McDermott's good books. 

 

Dane Jackson - I think he probably faced an uphill battle to make the roster in any event but Jackson was outplayed by the likes of Dorian Strong and the aforementioned Te'Cory Couch let alone the starter. Wasn't just that he was beat for the long touchdown but he didn't quite seem the same fundamentally sound guy we remember from his first spell in Buffalo. I doubt this is the final good bye as I imagine sneaking him to one of the six practice squad spots saved for vets will be relatively achievable but he did not help his cause today.

 

 

Flame away folks, there will be another of these next week!

Fair assessment. 

 

I also thought Shenault quietly had a solid game as a WR. His hands on the 2 point conversion were solid. 

 

I think the ST coverage units also showed very well today. Lots of energy and some good sticks. 

 

Absolutely LOVED the frenzy Bosa and Milano showed.

 

At RB, Davis didn't make anyone miss Cook less. But man, Little Gore is fun to watch with the ball in his hands. 

[NickelCity]

Oh, I should probably mention that Ty Johnson is still the man.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Fair assessment. 

 

I also thought Shenault quietly had a solid game as a WR. His hands on the 2 point conversion were solid. 

 

I think the ST coverage units also showed very well today. Lots of energy and some good sticks. 

 

Absolutely LOVED the frenzy Bosa and Milano showed.

 

At RB, Davis didn't make anyone miss Cook less. But man, Little Gore is fun to watch with the ball in his hands. 

 

Yea agree with all that. The coverage units were my last cut from the Good Night section...  but overall they were solid. 

 

I wanted to mention Milano and Bosa but great as it was to see them play active in that first quarter they are established guys. If they can both recapture their best form though... then watch out.

 

Davis was my las cut for bad night. Man he misses so many gaps. The difference between Cook's vision at the line and his is very significant indeed. Ty Johnson came in and immediately was peeling off 10 yard runs for fun. The gaps were they for Ray he just wasn't seeing them in time.

5 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

I don't disagree with any of that TBH. I'd only add that Shenault looked like the best returner...making Shavers an even more painful cut.

 

Agree Shenault looked the better of the two but not decisively so. That battle rumbles on to week two.

[FLFan]

2 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

I don't disagree with any of that TBH. I'd only add that Shenault looked like the best returner...making Shavers an even more painful cut.

Shenault did look good in the return game but the Bills cannot afford to keep him on as a returner only, and his history suggests he will never be a productive WR.

[ALLinALLEN]

I saw a Bills "Podcaster" on Twitter say arrow down on Dion Dawkins today so yes this list is 1000000x better

Edited 1 hour ago by ALLinALLEN

[SoCal Deek]

I, myself put in a solid effort out there today. It was toasty but I toughed it through to the ‘bitter’ end. 

[NickelCity]

11 minutes ago, FLFan said:

Shenault did look good in the return game but the Bills cannot afford to keep him on as a returner only, and his history suggests he will never be a productive WR.

 

Same deal with Codrington and CB. I'd love Shavers to make this team and get to see him play with Allen.

[MasterStrategist]

22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

It's pre-season football which means by no popular acclaim whatsoever it's time for the annual tradition like no other..... it's Gunner's Good Night / Bad Night as the New York Football Giants left Orchard Park victorious. By the way... did you know a new stadium is being built? Yea, right across the street apparently. Oh and there was some football happening too. Here is how it went down!

 

Good Night for...

 

Joe Andreessen - This time last year Buffalo Joe just felt like a nice story. Even coming into the spring I thought there was a chance it was a one year deal and he would be off the roster in 2025. But far from that he got the start here alongside Matt Milano in the absence of Terrel Bernard who has been nursing a hamstring injury through camp. Andreessen was typically active including a nice tackle for loss in the second quarter and was calling the defense. He looks pretty settled in as the backup MLB at this stage and the fairy tale looks like continuing into a second year. 

 

Mitch Trubisky - Their stat lines ended up being similar as Mike White rebounded to lead touchdown drives the last two times he took to the field. However, the eye test told you pretty clearly who looked more comfortable running the offense and who threw the more accurate balls. Add to that Trubsiky's mobility allows you to create more ways of generating offense in the worst case scenario where your backup has to play meaningful football. His grip on the backup job just tightened. 

 

Deone Walker - The 4th round rookie was not my favourite pick of the past draft and this was not a perfect debut. My concerns over his pad level and ability to bend remain and I think he gave up leverage a couple of times trying to play the run. But flashed in pass defense, getting a hand on one ball and being a constant disruptive force in the middle of the defensive line. I am not sure he is going to be a high snap count guy as a rookie but I can absolutely see him being used as an impactful situational player because he flashes those traits that are hard to buy at that size.  

 

Tyrell Shavers - Ultimately I still think Shavers' route to a spot on the 53 is narrow. But he has separated throughout camp into a category almost of his own where he is behind the top five guys but clearly ahead of the other receivers. His chances might depend on who wins the returner job, because if Laviska Shenault wins it then there is no chance they keep Shavers as a WR7. But if Shenault does not then them keeping a 6th receiver would appear to tilt towards Shavers making it after two years on the practice squad. I still suspect he is cut (and they try to sneak him onto the PS again) but this might be the toughest cut to make. 

 

Te'Cory Couch - Couch was a player that flashed last pre-season too but this was a really impressive display with two pass breakups, a big tackle in the run game when the Giants were backed up and another excellent coverage rep. I don't see a route to the 53 here for him but if he keeps making plays when he gets his opportunity then the chances of him earning a spot on an active roster elsewhere increases significantly. 

 

 

Bad Night for...

 

3rd down defense - The Giants were 9 for 19 on third down for 43% - which is exactly where the Bills were in 2024 percentage wise and that was good for 29th in the NFL. At times in the first half it felt even worse than that number suggests. This is a sustained issue now under Bobby Babich's coordinating and he better be feeling the heat to get it fixed. The Bills do not seem able to dictate in any way to the offense on 3rd down. Even when it is 3rd and long. 

 

Zach Davidson - Okay Jackson Hawes, Davidson's competition for TE3, had a bad drop as well but he has ways to make this team without being a big time receiving threat. Davidson doesn't and he had two brutal drops today. You could see his frustration on the field. That felt like a man who knew he was letting his chance pass him by. 

 

Landon Jackson - Let me start with this - Landon Jackson is never going to be a big time quick twitch, bendy edge rusher. That is not how he is going to win. But he looked very stiff and upright today and really struggled when his blockers got the first punch in within a rep. You'd want to see a little more fluidity through the hips and a little better use of the hands. The story at Arkansas was his inconsistency... the Bills have time to bring him along slowly... but it was an inauspicious beginning. 

 

Michael Hoecht - Ugh that was rough. Hoecht will miss the first six weeks of the regular season through a doping ban so you would have wanted to see him go full gas in pre-season. And to an extent he did, but in a really reckless way. He ran himself out of multiple plays, struggled to generate pressure on the Quarterback and left wide open escape lanes for dump offs, screens and QB run plays. The Bills are committed for three years so as soon as he is healthy he will be back in the fold, but he has some work to do. Guys who lose gap discipline and freelance in their rush plan don't tend to end up in Coach McDermott's good books. 

 

Dane Jackson - I think he probably faced an uphill battle to make the roster in any event but Jackson was outplayed by the likes of Dorian Strong and the aforementioned Te'Cory Couch let alone the starter. Wasn't just that he was beat for the long touchdown but he didn't quite seem the same fundamentally sound guy we remember from his first spell in Buffalo. I doubt this is the final good bye as I imagine sneaking him to one of the six practice squad spots saved for vets will be relatively achievable but he did not help his cause today.

 

 

Flame away folks, there will be another of these next week!

Overall fair assessment.

 

I look at positional groups and feel very good about our interior DL.   Edge, it will take off if Bosa stays healthy all year.  Secondary, Im not concerned, yet- but the backups didnt fair well in aggregate.

 

I liked, in no order:

1. Tj Sanders

2. Matt Milano

3. Bosa

4. Benford

5. Walker

6. Buffalo Joe

7. Mitch and Mike

8.  Josh Palmer

9.  Backup Ol, less the bad snap

 

I thought Tre and Dane looked a step slow, maybe playing too soft to start.  Dane made a play, on the 2nd deep ball.  

 

Im most interested to see Rapp/Bishop together, along with Mad Max who will eventually take CB2 this season.

 

We looked like a team trying to get healthy, fighting through some reps.  What I'd like to see more of is 1st down pressure packages.  We let Gmen get ahead of sticks and alot of those 3rd downs were converted ❤️ to go

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Didn't watch the game but by all descriptions so far Jackson is AJE 2.0.

 

Any other GM in the league and this board would go nuts if they signed one let alone two PED guys. If the rookies can do anything hope they both get cut before they come off suspension. 

[oldmanfan]

I think Shavers makes it because he’ll have an important role as gunner on special teams.  They can have Davis or one of the young DBs return kicks.  I’m also thinking Samuels gets an injury settlement.  

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Any other GM in the league and this board would go nuts if they signed one let alone two PED guys. If the rookies can do anything hope they both get cut before they come off suspension. 

 

Hoecht isn't getting cut, he's on a 3 year deal and the team knew about the suspension before they signed him.

 

Ogunjobi I wonder about though. The team didn't know about his suspension until after signing him and it's just a 1 year deal so easier to get out of. They kept 4 DTs last year and 5 DTs in 2023. Oliver, Jones, Walker, Sanders, Carter, Ogunjobi makes 6 so there has to be an odd man out there. Ogunjobi has barely been mentioned in training camp reports and today there was a noticeable decline in interior pass rush when he replaced Sanders. So what is his path to the roster? Either we surprise cut or trade Carter, or there is an injury in the room before Ogunjobi's suspension is up. If neither of those things happen I think we might just cut him after his suspension ends and he'll have no one to blame but himself.

[BuffaloBillyG]

20 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Didn't watch the game but by all descriptions so far Jackson is AJE 2.0.

 

Any other GM in the league and this board would go nuts if they signed one let alone two PED guys. If the rookies can do anything hope they both get cut before they come off suspension. 

Jackson would have to VASTLY improve before being on AJE'S level. And I'm not a huge AJE fan.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Jackson would have to VASTLY improve before being on AJE'S level. And I'm not a huge AJE fan.

Yikes

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

It's pre-season football which means by no popular acclaim whatsoever it's time for the annual tradition like no other..... it's Gunner's Good Night / Bad Night as the New York Football Giants left Orchard Park victorious. By the way... did you know a new stadium is being built? Yea, right across the street apparently. Oh and there was some football happening too. Here is how it went down!

 

Good Night for...

 

Joe Andreessen - This time last year Buffalo Joe just felt like a nice story. Even coming into the spring I thought there was a chance it was a one year deal and he would be off the roster in 2025. But far from that he got the start here alongside Matt Milano in the absence of Terrel Bernard who has been nursing a hamstring injury through camp. Andreessen was typically active including a nice tackle for loss in the second quarter and was calling the defense. He looks pretty settled in as the backup MLB at this stage and the fairy tale looks like continuing into a second year. 

 

Mitch Trubisky - Their stat lines ended up being similar as Mike White rebounded to lead touchdown drives the last two times he took to the field. However, the eye test told you pretty clearly who looked more comfortable running the offense and who threw the more accurate balls. Add to that Trubsiky's mobility allows you to create more ways of generating offense in the worst case scenario where your backup has to play meaningful football. His grip on the backup job just tightened. 

 

Deone Walker - The 4th round rookie was not my favourite pick of the past draft and this was not a perfect debut. My concerns over his pad level and ability to bend remain and I think he gave up leverage a couple of times trying to play the run. But flashed in pass defense, getting a hand on one ball and being a constant disruptive force in the middle of the defensive line. I am not sure he is going to be a high snap count guy as a rookie but I can absolutely see him being used as an impactful situational player because he flashes those traits that are hard to buy at that size.  

 

Tyrell Shavers - Ultimately I still think Shavers' route to a spot on the 53 is narrow. But he has separated throughout camp into a category almost of his own where he is behind the top five guys but clearly ahead of the other receivers. His chances might depend on who wins the returner job, because if Laviska Shenault wins it then there is no chance they keep Shavers as a WR7. But if Shenault does not then them keeping a 6th receiver would appear to tilt towards Shavers making it after two years on the practice squad. I still suspect he is cut (and they try to sneak him onto the PS again) but this might be the toughest cut to make. 

 

Te'Cory Couch - Couch was a player that flashed last pre-season too but this was a really impressive display with two pass breakups, a big tackle in the run game when the Giants were backed up and another excellent coverage rep. I don't see a route to the 53 here for him but if he keeps making plays when he gets his opportunity then the chances of him earning a spot on an active roster elsewhere increases significantly. 

 

 

Bad Night for...

 

3rd down defense - The Giants were 9 for 19 on third down for 43% - which is exactly where the Bills were in 2024 percentage wise and that was good for 29th in the NFL. At times in the first half it felt even worse than that number suggests. This is a sustained issue now under Bobby Babich's coordinating and he better be feeling the heat to get it fixed. The Bills do not seem able to dictate in any way to the offense on 3rd down. Even when it is 3rd and long. 

 

Zach Davidson - Okay Jackson Hawes, Davidson's competition for TE3, had a bad drop as well but he has ways to make this team without being a big time receiving threat. Davidson doesn't and he had two brutal drops today. You could see his frustration on the field. That felt like a man who knew he was letting his chance pass him by. 

 

Landon Jackson - Let me start with this - Landon Jackson is never going to be a big time quick twitch, bendy edge rusher. That is not how he is going to win. But he looked very stiff and upright today and really struggled when his blockers got the first punch in within a rep. You'd want to see a little more fluidity through the hips and a little better use of the hands. The story at Arkansas was his inconsistency... the Bills have time to bring him along slowly... but it was an inauspicious beginning. 

 

Michael Hoecht - Ugh that was rough. Hoecht will miss the first six weeks of the regular season through a doping ban so you would have wanted to see him go full gas in pre-season. And to an extent he did, but in a really reckless way. He ran himself out of multiple plays, struggled to generate pressure on the Quarterback and left wide open escape lanes for dump offs, screens and QB run plays. The Bills are committed for three years so as soon as he is healthy he will be back in the fold, but he has some work to do. Guys who lose gap discipline and freelance in their rush plan don't tend to end up in Coach McDermott's good books. 

 

Dane Jackson - I think he probably faced an uphill battle to make the roster in any event but Jackson was outplayed by the likes of Dorian Strong and the aforementioned Te'Cory Couch let alone the starter. Wasn't just that he was beat for the long touchdown but he didn't quite seem the same fundamentally sound guy we remember from his first spell in Buffalo. I doubt this is the final good bye as I imagine sneaking him to one of the six practice squad spots saved for vets will be relatively achievable but he did not help his cause today.

 

 

Flame away folks, there will be another of these next week!

I hope we didn't waste a 3rd rounder.

[MikePJ76]

I am not a fan as I have stated many times of the defensive free agent class.  I am of the opinion that it was really bad and Beane blew it.

 

Today didn’t make me feel any different.  Ogunjobi, hoecht, Forrest all looked pretty pedestrian at best.  I don’t care how bosa played today because I know who he is as a player.

 

If they missed on Jackson and Hairston is on ir to start the season this defense is going to cost this team a bunch of games.  That is just to many misses in one offseason on the defensive side of the ball when they are in desperate need for difference makers.

 

Hopefully sanders, walker, Hancock and strong can help and improve each week.  

[Ethan in Cleveland]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Hoecht isn't getting cut, he's on a 3 year deal and the team knew about the suspension before they signed him.

 

Ogunjobi I wonder about though. The team didn't know about his suspension until after signing him and it's just a 1 year deal so easier to get out of. They kept 4 DTs last year and 5 DTs in 2023. Oliver, Jones, Walker, Sanders, Carter, Ogunjobi makes 6 so there has to be an odd man out there. Ogunjobi has barely been mentioned in training camp reports and today there was a noticeable decline in interior pass rush when he replaced Sanders. So what is his path to the roster? Either we surprise cut or trade Carter, or there is an injury in the room before Ogunjobi's suspension is up. If neither of those things happen I think we might just cut him after his suspension ends and he'll have no one to blame but himself.

I was forced to watch PED Murphy start as one of the worst DE in the league for three years. Im not interested in watching another PED cheat for three years. It was a mistake for to sign him. He should have pulled the deal. But you are probably correct in your assessment 

[Low Positive]

I knew people would overreact to a meaningless game, but this board is really over the top with negativity right now. I'm just happy nobody got hurt.