Do the Bills Even Have a Hated Division Rival?

[Taro Nimbus]

If you mean divisional rival, it’s the Dolphins for sure.  Rival in general, would be the chiefs.   Bills Vs Chiefs are like the Pats vs Colts of old. 

[Success]

2 hours ago, paulmm3 said:

Patriots are by far my least favorite team for the 17 years we never made the playoffs and they won the division seemingly every year. We didn't beat them for like nine years. Bills and Patriots have never really been good at the same time though, I'm surprised Patriots isn't more people's snap answer. Of course the whole AFC East are rivals but always Patriots most hated for me.

 

Yeah - that run they had, while we were in our drought, is still pretty fresh for me.

 

Their fans keep the hate alive w/ their persistent arrogance & sense of entitlement.  Even when the Pats are bad, as they have been, that's a game that I always have great interest in.

 

[oldmanfan]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Old an, thanks for setting this youngins straight.  Maybe you’re not aware that the f#$&cking Fish beat us 20 straight times in the 70’s.  When we beat them on September 17th 1980 in Rich Stadium, we tore the goal posts down in jubilation.  F the fish.

 

Your remarks indicate you’re young.  My father still hates the Japanese for Pearl.  He’s 95.  I try and and have him talk down, but he can’t forget how he felt at 11 when those bastards invaded Pearl.  It’s true, they were the greatest generation.  Thank god my wife is Chinese as he loves her.  It’s irrational, but my point was not xenophobia, just something like that scars you.

 

I hate the Fish with every fiber of my being.  The Cheats beat a mediocre, poorly managed Bills for 20 years.  We had Saban for a short time in the 70’s, and it was Knox who led us to our first victory over those slimy bastages.

 

I will never ever not hate the Fish.  If you were in you’re 50’s or older, you’d never write these words.

I helped with those goal posts!

[That's No Moon]

Who is the Bills hated division rival?

[Pete]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Deep history: Fins

More recent history: Pats

 

Current: Chiefs

 

Hatred poisons the soul, so I try not to hate anyone but it's frustrating to keep watching the Bills beat the Chiefs in the regular season only to lose to them in the playoffs.  I don't "hate" the Chiefs per se but I don't root for them either and would be happy if they somehow missed the playoffs this season.  Other teams and fanbases deserve some of their success.  

I agree about hate poisoning the soul.  But how do you feel about Schadenfreude?  I experienced intense Shadenfreude watching the Eagles pummel the Chiefs!  Super enjoyable!

[Bruffalo]

If you're young enough to not remember the 90s Bills you can probably say that the Bills don't have a true rival in the division, but for me it will always be the Dolphins.

 

I effing hate the phins.

[bigduke6]

yep,  still despise Pats, Jets, and Fins fans.  so yes,  the division rivalries still matter.  i despise Chefs fans the most though.  yes i know not all these teams' fans are trashcans,  but theres enough of the baddies that make me dislike these teams greatly.  i respect the fans of all these teams that handle themselves in a decent way.

 

im sure the players see the Chiefs and Ravens as their rivals.    

Edited Friday at 06:07 PM by bigduke6

[T master]

I've been a Bills fan for a very long time and through out the time that I. have been a fan there have been very hated rivalry's in the Bills division . All 3 of the other teams in the Bills division have been hated at one time or another ...   

[Chandler#81]

3 hours ago, dorquemada said:

Chiefs are the big rival, but why hate them?  If their victories over us were questionable, it would be one thing.  I think it's still ok to hate the dolphins, but Im of a certain age where i watched us lose to them 10 years in a row.

I’ll stop just short of the ‘questionable’ tag, but 2 of our playoff losses to KC have resulted in significant rule changes. 13 Seconds changed playoff OT to both teams getting the ball even if 1 team scores a TD. The other was last season’s AFC Title game. The chain gang has been figuratively kicked to the curb and replaced by a chip in the ball to more accurately spot the football. 

P.S. I still -and always will Hate Miami!

[Pete]

2 hours ago, RochesterLifer said:

I lived in Boston from 2018 to 2023. They didn't take us seriously as we became a strong football team. Pats fans thought Buffalo's excitement was "cute" and expected to keep dominating. With their arrogance, they never knew what hit them. 

I was listening to Boston Sports Radio this afternoon, and they are very fearful and reverent of the Bills.  They were doing best case for Pats, game by game.  In best case scenerio 3 hosts said 11-6was the best case, but 9-8 most likely.  But even in best case scenerio,  no one even gave the Pats a chance against Bills.

 

I go to Bills at Pats games, and ive heard many Pats fans say that beating Buffalo now is their SuperBowl

[BigAl2526]

Back when Miami and New England were the number 1 most hated teams of Bills fans, in those respective time periods, the Bills weren't much more than afterthoughts of New England and Miami fans.

[That's No Moon]

14 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

If you're young enough to not remember the 90s Bills you can probably say that the Bills don't have a true rival in the division, but for me it will always be the Dolphins.

 

I effing hate the phins.

I hate the concept of Miami, but the truth is we've done very well against them for the vast majority of my lifetime.

I hate the Jets because their fanbase is obnoxious for no objective reason

I hate New England not because they beat us so many times in a row, but because they did it while they were getting caught cheating several times and seemingly the entire world was trying to minimize that cheating so as not to besmirch their legacy. To the degree that even today people talk about Tom Brady's great nutrition as the reason why he looks so young, not a single thing about how his personal trainer and business partner was banned from league facilities. Yeah, he was 100% legit, no HGH use at all. None, totally normal for a 46 year old to be a starting QB in the NFL. All that healthy eating was the key.  He wasn't behind deflating the balls either - who doesn't destroy cell phones on a regular noncoincidental basis. And the Spygate footage? Inconsequential and you didn't need to see it anyway. Besides it belonged to the league and was theirs to destroy.  Spygate 2? Total misunderstanding, not a flagrant disregard for the established rules AFTER they'd already been caught and covered for once.  Pats o-lineman arrested with a massive amount of pain medication? Nothing to see here.  Aaron Hernandez? They were as shocked as we were.  If you lose to someone a bunch of times because they are better than you, fine, and for a lot of those games they were just better than us, but the consistent level of scumbaggery combined with their arrogance was just disgusting.  The Dolphins and Jets don't owe karma a debt. New England does. A big one.

 

Other teams?

I have an absolute irrational hatred of Jacksonville.  Why?  During the drought and during the whole Toronto BS and after Ralph passed we had to constantly worry about out team being taken from us while the league did everything in its power to prop up Jacksonville as a franchise.  Tarping off seats was ok, and gaming the "club seating" rules inside the stadium to keep the games on local TV were fine for Jacksonville to do. Meanwhile every other week there was another story about the Bills moving somewhere even though our stadium was full.  I will forever hold a grudge against that pitiful excuse of a team and a fanbase. If there is ANY city in the NFL that DESERVES to lose its team it's them.  Move them to London. Tomorrow.

Edited Friday at 06:19 PM by That's No Moon

[Bruffalo]

19 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

I hate the concept of Miami, but the truth is we've done very well against them for the vast majority of my lifetime.

I hate the Jets because their fanbase is obnoxious for no objective reason

I hate New England not because they beat us so many times in a row, but because they did it while they were getting caught cheating several times and seemingly the entire world was trying to minimize that cheating so as not to besmirch their legacy. To the degree that even today people talk about Tom Brady's great nutrition as the reason why he looks so young, not a single thing about how his personal trainer and business partner was banned from league facilities. Yeah, he was 100% legit, no HGH use at all. None, totally normal for a 46 year old to be a starting QB in the NFL. All that healthy eating was the key.  He wasn't behind deflating the balls either - who doesn't destroy cell phones on a regular noncoincidental basis. And the Spygate footage? Inconsequential and you didn't need to see it anyway. Besides it belonged to the league and was theirs to destroy.  Spygate 2? Total misunderstanding, not a flagrant disregard for the established rules AFTER they'd already been caught and covered for once.  Pats o-lineman arrested with a massive amount of pain medication? Nothing to see here.  Aaron Hernandez? They were as shocked as we were.  If you lose to someone a bunch of times because they are better than you, fine, and for a lot of those games they were just better than us, but the consistent level of scumbaggery combined with their arrogance was just disgusting.  The Dolphins and Jets don't owe karma a debt. New England does. A big one.

 

Other teams?

I have an absolute irrational hatred of Jacksonville.  Why?  During the drought and during the whole Toronto BS and after Ralph passed we had to constantly worry about out team being taken from us while the league did everything in its power to prop up Jacksonville as a franchise.  Tarping off seats was ok, and gaming the "club seating" rules inside the stadium to keep the games on local TV were fine for Jacksonville to do. Meanwhile every other week there was another story about the Bills moving somewhere even though our stadium was full.  I will forever hold a grudge against that pitiful excuse of a team and a fanbase. If there is ANY city in the NFL that DESERVES to lose its team it's them.  Move them to London. Tomorrow.

 

I don't count the NE rivalry during the drought because it was so one sided that I seriously doubt anyone in NE was thinking about us at all. I agree with everything you said but I don't think it's a rivalry, you need it to go both ways.

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

 

I don't count the NE rivalry during the drought because it was so one sided that I seriously doubt anyone in NE was thinking about us at all. I agree with everything you said but I don't think it's a rivalry, you need it to go both ways.

That's a tough metric if you have a really good team.  By nature you're going to win most of your games in your own division in that scenario.  We have the inverse relationship with Baltimore that we do with KC.  One we only beat in the playoffs, the other we only beat in the regular season.  Does that make Baltimore and KC rivals of ours?  I don't really think of either of them that way.

 

Recently I'd have to say Miami is our biggest rival.  They've been closest to us in our division, we've been their major impediment in the division, we've denied them the division title a couple times, we've beaten them in the playoffs. That has to really piss them off. Historically many of us don't like Miami either but on a shorter timeline it hasn't been a two-way thing.  We've pretty much owned them since 1987.

[Talley56]

Since the title says Hated Division Rival, this only comes down to the Dolphins/Patriots/Jets.  I'd say it's probably the Fins overall.  Yes, they have 20-0 in the 70s but the 90s was pretty back and forth with the Bills getting the better of it.  Both teams had legendary QBs go through the 80s and 90s at the same time and there have been 5 playoff games between the two including a championship game.

 

As far as the Pats, I might hate them more, but, as far as it being a rivalry, the two teams really haven't been good at the same time for an extended period like the Bills/Fins have.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Miami.

 

I will always, until they lower me into the ground, hate the Miami Dolphins

 

The rest? Meh.

 

[RochesterLifer]

46 minutes ago, Pete said:

I was listening to Boston Sports Radio this afternoon, and they are very fearful and reverent of the Bills.  They were doing best case for Pats, game by game.  In best case scenerio 3 hosts said 11-6was the best case, but 9-8 most likely.  But even in best case scenerio,  no one even gave the Pats a chance against Bills.

 

I go to Bills at Pats games, and ive heard many Pats fans say that beating Buffalo now is their SuperBowl

This is from 2020, when Fox Sports named Bills fans as the best in the NFL. Bills fans in the Boston area were getting their (our) picture taken in front of the billboard in Foxboro, about three miles from Gillette.

I believe this specific picture was about two hours before we played them in Gillette on Monday Night Football. We thrashed them....then, they understood. 

[That's No Moon]

2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Miami.

 

I will always, until they lower me into the ground, hate the Miami Dolphins

 

The rest? Meh.

 

I was uncomfortable with the Bills signing Bryan Cox, Jr. 

Edited Friday at 07:05 PM by That's No Moon

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, That's No Moon said:

I was uncomfortable with the Bills signing Brian Cox, Jr. 

ME TOO

 

the taint on that name

 

[That's No Moon]

Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

ME TOO

 

the taint on that name

 

The thought of him coming to a game and wearing our colors, sitting in the stands, mingling with us, etc was just revolting.