Mister Defense Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/9/2025 at 2:44 AM, GunnerBill said: Ty didn't. I am not sure Bernard did either. Groot, Shakir and Benford, sure. And also, when you are in a group of players, running backs, that have become the most underpaid in the league, makes little sense to give another discount. I think Beane gets it, cannot let this hang over the Bills in this very promising season, especially considering it is one of the most vital players in the entire roster, and Josh Allen's best friend on the field. He helped lead the Bills to the most balanced scoring offense in the history of the NFL. I keep missing the mark, but a deal today or tomorrow, and likely already done, or cannot imagine Cook out there, risking everything he has worked so hard for in his life. 1 Quote
Xerx Posted August 12 Posted August 12 I think they've come to an agreement to add some money to this season, sort of what they did with Poyer Otherwise, would already be leaks of an extension Quote
PoundingDog Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 minute ago, Xerx said: I think they've come to an agreement to add some money to this season, sort of what they did with Poyer Why wouldn't that be leaked (vs extension)? That should be a victory for the agent right? Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 12 Posted August 12 It’d be pretty sweet if they kept a team friendly extension under wraps and it debuted on Hard Knocks and everyone found out at once. Not practical but it’d be great TV 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 12 minutes ago, Xerx said: I think they've come to an agreement to add some money to this season, sort of what they did with Poyer Otherwise, would already be leaks of an extension Any additional money would be based on him getting out there an practicing and playing. Im not giving extra money for him to sit out the pre season. I just don't think he is realistic in his demands or we would have seen some movement already Quote
Mat68 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: It’d be pretty sweet if they kept a team friendly extension under wraps and it debuted on Hard Knocks and everyone found out at once. Not practical but it’d be great TV I expect Cook to be prominent in the episode. Any announcement would be for PR. Imo Hard knocks was Cooks only leverage. Ending his hold in after 1 episode and before the second doesnt make any sense to me unless a deal was reached. Quote
HardyBoy Posted August 12 Posted August 12 I think this deserves it's own thread down the line, but the NFL should have lost a collusion case around limiting guaranteed contracts...yes the RB market is severely lower than that of WR...also the timing of Cook's hold out happened after a lot of the reporting around how the league and nflpa prevented the document detailing the specifics of the case and the questionable ruling by the arbitrator came out. Just saying... 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/8/2025 at 7:15 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Recently went down a 90s songs podcast rabbit hole. Really interesting/sad story behind the Gin Blossoms and Doug Hopkins who wrote their hits, but left the band (alcoholism) before they hit it big, and then drank himself to death at 32 with the regret. (For anyone interested, podcast is "60 Songs the Explain the 90s". Host can be annoying sometimes, but there are some really interesting episodes. I highly recommend the Third Eye Blind/Semi Charmed Life episode to start) They really had some bangers. 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted August 12 Posted August 12 I might be a hater, but I don’t think the Bills offensive output would be that different with a combo of Ty Johnson and Ray Davis. It would definitely take a step back, but I’m not sure it would actually result in a different team record. 2 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: I might be a hater, but I don’t think the Bills offensive output would be that different with a combo of Ty Johnson and Ray Davis. It would definitely take a step back, but I’m not sure it would actually result in a different team record. Hopefully we will never find out. because, yes. Yes it will make a difference. This is the NFL. Studs like Cook make things look easy. Ray Davis isn't the man and Ty (I love TY) but he's not that guy either. Defenses could gameplan vs Davis/Ty easier than when we have Cook. Without a doubt. 1 2 Quote
jethro_tull Posted August 12 Posted August 12 His agent is a dique. BB said he has never worked a deal with him. Quote
Xerx Posted August 12 Posted August 12 43 minutes ago, PoundingDog said: Why wouldn't that be leaked (vs extension)? That should be a victory for the agent right? Depends on perspective I guess Could be wrong but I think most would say not getting a long term deal and settling for that is a loss 35 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Any additional money would be based on him getting out there an practicing and playing. Im not giving extra money for him to sit out the pre season. I just don't think he is realistic in his demands or we would have seen some movement already he's on the field today 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 35 minutes ago, Xerx said: Depends on perspective I guess Could be wrong but I think most would say not getting a long term deal and settling for that is a loss he's on the field today I guess we will see then Quote
Brand J Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Any additional money would be based on him getting out there an practicing and playing. Im not giving extra money for him to sit out the pre season. I just don't think he is realistic in his demands or we would have seen some movement already If some reports are true, that he’d sign in the $10M-$13M range, then perhaps it’s the Bills who aren’t being fair. 2 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 12 Posted August 12 35 minutes ago, Brand J said: If some reports are true, that he’d sign in the $10M-$13M range, then perhaps it’s the Bills who aren’t being fair. I doubt it,but it's possible. Quote
Ga boy Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, Dillenger4 said: Hopefully we will never find out. because, yes. Yes it will make a difference. This is the NFL. Studs like Cook make things look easy. Ray Davis isn't the man and Ty (I love TY) but he's not that guy either. Defenses could gameplan vs Davis/Ty easier than when we have Cook. Without a doubt. Cook is only guy who can take it to the house at any time. He’ll get 13.5 and 30 guaranteed, and incentives. He gonna run like a stallion this year. Go Bills!! 2 1 Quote
PoundingDog Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Maybe there is a deal. But ... the reporters asked Cook to speak after the practice and he declined. If a deal is done, I'd think Cook is likely to speak something - it is not like he has to pass a physical, that kind of hurdles. People skills are important, for a HC and GM, even in such a ruthless business where everything is driven by bottom line (win, loss, are you better than the next guy?). Cook and his presentative went the route of "Hold in", if they are smart, they should have an exit plan, with or without a deal. Likewise, Beane and McDermott should have possible paths planned and try to steer it clear of a "dead-end." Best path is a deal both party are comfortable. Short of that, you need to find a respected way for Cook to go, not feeling humiliated - I do not believe Cook is some very stubborn head being unrealistic. Cook has made over $4 million dollars on his rookie contract so far and his 2025 proven performance escalator is bumping his 2025 base salary to over $5.2 million. So we know he's not going to mess up with that money. But he is going to be 26 near the end of sept. So he is looking for his biggest payday the next contract. At this point, it looks more like the guaranteed money in the next contract will be in the $15 - 20 million range. In contrast, the 2025 franchise tag is about $13.5 million (expect 2026 to be up more). So really, however, you look at it, if Beane is offering par market rate, the 2 sides will be "close" by NFL contract standards. The fact they have not come to an agreement so far leads me to believe either Beane wants a "home discount" or Cook's side believe there are "white knight teams" out there willing to over pay, or even worse both of those are true. Quote
The Jokeman Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, jethro_tull said: His agent is a dique. BB said he has never worked a deal with him. Really? cuz https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/agents/_/agent/matt-leist shows he's the same agent as our rookie WR Kaden Prather. Quote
Dillenger4 Posted August 12 Posted August 12 13 minutes ago, Ga boy said: Cook is only guy who can take it to the house at any time. He’ll get 13.5 and 30 guaranteed, and incentives. He gonna run like a stallion this year. Go Bills!! Ya man! 13 sounds high but who knows. Either way - he is a stud and we NEED him. 1 Quote
boater Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Where is the Cook deal? I keep hitting F5 looking for the $11M and I'm not seeing it. Quote
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