BillsFanForever19 Posted Friday at 02:33 AM Posted Friday at 02:33 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: How many pages if Cook requests a trade? He didn't skip any mandatory OTA's, didn't skip any of Training Camp - no holdout period. He's talked about wanting to stay here. It baffles me that people still talk about something like this or hold ill will towards him bc of a couple tweets that simply said "I want to be paid". Edited Friday at 04:51 AM by BillsFanForever19 2 3 Quote
DCofNC Posted Friday at 02:47 AM Posted Friday at 02:47 AM 3 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: I have a real bad vibe about it. I mean Washington a team on the cusp turning their stuff around with a good young QB b. I would have thought McLaren would have waited years for this. It's not like he's underpaid drastically. I mean the 15 mil is low, but I don't know. Maybe he could have worked out an extension or a year or two to get some more guaranteed cash. I don't like the vibe and the feeling of wanting a trade. I've always respected the player though. He’s been there, thick and thin. He’s 30 and they need him, no better time to throw down and demand to be paid. He’s an injury away from never seeing another big pay day. I support him 100% on this. The team is in a tough spot, they need him, they should pay him, but for how long at 30 years old? 2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: How many pages if Cook requests a trade? Did Ertz ever find a team? 1 Quote
BillsVet Posted Friday at 04:08 AM Posted Friday at 04:08 AM It’s not a hard decision if he’s available in trade. McLaurin would be a great addition. Most important thing though is it hinders their cap space to add more defense next off-season and we know Beane doesn’t apologize for using much of that at DL. Besides, their WR group of multiple 3’s will be made better by Josh Allen. Don’t need a McLaurin or Metcalf…they have quantity and that’s how teams do it in this league. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Friday at 04:53 AM Posted Friday at 04:53 AM 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: If we didn't trade for Metcalf there's no way they're trading for an older guy who wants a similar contract. I think once he writes a goodbye letter to fans the Commanders will come to an agreement. That logic tracks. But maybe they didn't want to give up picks this year given all they had to do and roster spots they had to fill. Especially a high pick this year. I tend to agree with you. But maybe adding a player like McLaurin while still being able to get Sanders and Jackson and pay for him with picks next year (and/or player(s)) might be more intriguing. Quote
BobbyC81 Posted Friday at 05:12 AM Posted Friday at 05:12 AM This would be like deja vu of Diggs, getting a prima donna WR who wants to be traded. Has anybody heard sny negative locker room stuff about McLaurin? You can’t 5 straight 100 yd seasons. I would give up next year’s first. Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 08:02 AM Posted Friday at 08:02 AM I think McLaurin is an excellent player. But he turns 30 before week 2. I don't know that I see a team willing to give up both the draft capital Washington would want and the contract that McLaurin would want to a speed receiver entering his 4th decade. If he was a year or two younger, sure. 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted Friday at 08:56 AM Posted Friday at 08:56 AM 3 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: This would be like deja vu of Diggs, getting a prima donna WR who wants to be traded. Has anybody heard sny negative locker room stuff about McLaurin? You can’t 5 straight 100 yd seasons. I would give up next year’s first. you think it’s like Diggs? I see a guy who’s played for horrible teams, never had a problem and simply wants to be paid for his production when they’re more than capable to pay him. Daniels on a rookie deal for 4 more years if they’re don’t extend him seems like the right time to pay a top guy on your team for another 3 years? 1 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Friday at 10:18 AM Posted Friday at 10:18 AM 10 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: I have a real bad vibe about it. I mean Washington a team on the cusp turning their stuff around with a good young QB b. I would have thought McLaren would have waited years for this. It's not like he's underpaid drastically. I mean the 15 mil is low, but I don't know. Maybe he could have worked out an extension or a year or two to get some more guaranteed cash. I don't like the vibe and the feeling of wanting a trade. I've always respected the player though. What do you mean you’d have thought McLauren “would’ve waited years for this”? This is the last year of his contract. Of course he wants an extension now. This is the time players usually get one. I understand the Commanders not wanting to give a big contract to a WR pushing 30, but it’s time to do an extension if they want to keep him past this year. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted Friday at 10:49 AM Posted Friday at 10:49 AM I am sure Beane is looking into this. Can he make it work salary cap wise? Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 10:52 AM Posted Friday at 10:52 AM 8 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He didn't skip any mandatory OTA's, didn't skip any of Training Camp - no holdout period. He's talked about wanting to stay here. It baffles me that people still talk about something like this or hold ill will towards him bc of a couple tweets that simply said "I want to be paid". Yep. Literally all he did was say he wanted to get paid at the top of the market for a running back after a year where he led the league (jointly) with 16 touchdowns. His behaviour has been immaculate. I thought he'd hold out of mini camp and would have supported him in doing so, but he even turned up for that. He has done nothing at all to generate the hate he gets from some. 1 6 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Friday at 11:01 AM Posted Friday at 11:01 AM 34 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: What do you mean you’d have thought McLauren “would’ve waited years for this”? This is the last year of his contract. Of course he wants an extension now. This is the time players usually get one. I understand the Commanders not wanting to give a big contract to a WR pushing 30, but it’s time to do an extension if they want to keep him past this year. And the Commanders are the team that I can most justify giving him what he wants. He is already theirs, so there is no trade compensation to factor in, they know more than anyone about his physical condition and are best placed to take a view on how much of his peak remains, they know he fits in their offense and they have four more years of cost controlled quarterback play. 2 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted Friday at 11:07 AM Posted Friday at 11:07 AM 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And the Commanders are the team that I can most justify giving him what he wants. He is already theirs, so there is no trade compensation to factor in, they know more than anyone about his physical condition and are best placed to take a view on how much of his peak remains, they know he fits in their offense and they have four more years of cost controlled quarterback play. That’s why this situation will work itself out. It just makes too much sense for them. I bet they have the contract worked out before their first preseason game. 1 1 Quote
Coldfronts Posted Friday at 11:32 AM Posted Friday at 11:32 AM he is too old to pay that kind of bank, see von deal 1 Quote
DJB Posted Friday at 11:33 AM Posted Friday at 11:33 AM (edited) 6 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: This would be like deja vu of Diggs, getting a prima donna WR who wants to be traded. Has anybody heard sny negative locker room stuff about McLaurin? You can’t 5 straight 100 yd seasons. I would give up next year’s first. Team Captain and for all intents and purposes is reportedly a good dude. Hes been chronically underpaid most of his career and put up great numbers with bad QB play. He’s not a diva and would make an excellent acquisition The issue I have with Bills is not the $ he deserves but again we would be acquiring an older #1 WR like we did with Diggs and only get a couple years out of him. I want to draft or acquire for a young #1 WR to grow with Josh for years to come Edited Friday at 11:35 AM by DJB 2 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted Friday at 11:39 AM Posted Friday at 11:39 AM 5 minutes ago, Coldfronts said: he is too old to pay that kind of bank, see von deal I mean, McLaurin is 30 and you’re probably looking at him for 4 years. Von was 33 when they signed him with a long injury history. There are comparisons but the Von signing isn’t one of them. The Diggs trade is WAY more applicable here. 6 minutes ago, DJB said: Team Captain and for all intents and purposes is reportedly a good dude. Hes been chronically underpaid most of his career and put up great numbers with bad QB play. He’s not a diva and would make an excellent acquisition The issue I have with Bills is not the $ he deserves but again we would be acquiring an older #1 WR like we did with Diggs and only get a couple years out of him. I want to draft or acquire for a young #1 WR to grow with Josh for years to come FWIW, he was a 2-time captain at Ohio State. He was the leader of that offense in a lot of ways. He was highly, highly respected. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted Friday at 11:46 AM Posted Friday at 11:46 AM 10 minutes ago, DJB said: I want to draft or acquire for a young #1 WR to grow with Josh for years to come I guess where I differ from some here is that I don’t really care about a guy “growing with Josh for years to come.” Josh probably has 7 or 8 good years left. If you could give him the 1st 1/2 of that window with a bonafide, number 1 WR, I’d do it yesterday. I don’t need a guy that might become good in 2028. The Bills are favorites in all 17 games this year. Do anything, and everything, to win now. Tomorrow isn’t promised. We need to stop thinking about it in the context of the Bills. Now is the time. 3 9 Quote
Gregg Posted Friday at 11:53 AM Posted Friday at 11:53 AM 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I guess where I differ from some here is that I don’t really care about a guy “growing with Josh for years to come.” Josh probably has 7 or 8 good years left. If you could give him the 1st 1/2 of that window with a bonafide, number 1 WR, I’d do it yesterday. I don’t need a guy that might become good in 2028. The Bills are favorites in all 17 games this year. Do anything, and everything, to win now. Tomorrow isn’t promised. We need to stop thinking about it in the context of the Bills. Now is the time. Feel the same the way. I am not saying the future isn't important because it is. But the Bills are a win now team. McLaurin would make this offense so much more dangerous. Aside from him making plays he would help open things up for other WR's. Also think of how much more dangerous Cook would become to opposing defenses if the Bills had another elite player on offense. 3 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Friday at 12:05 PM Posted Friday at 12:05 PM 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: And the Commanders are the team that I can most justify giving him what he wants. He is already theirs, so there is no trade compensation to factor in, they know more than anyone about his physical condition and are best placed to take a view on how much of his peak remains, they know he fits in their offense and they have four more years of cost controlled quarterback play. I agree. This might be a case of McLauren’s agent ramping up rhetoric at the end of negotiations to move the needle a bit more. I’ve heard thru the grapevine that Washington won’t move him so that would track. 1 Quote
chris heff Posted Friday at 12:21 PM Posted Friday at 12:21 PM 9 hours ago, DCofNC said: He’s been there, thick and thin. He’s 30 and they need him, no better time to throw down and demand to be paid. He’s an injury away from never seeing another big pay day. I support him 100% on this. The team is in a tough spot, they need him, they should pay him, but for how long at 30 years old? Did Ertz ever find a team? I’ve been camped out in Pegula’s Bushes in Boca since yesterday. Thought I saw Ertz, may have been an Amazon delivery guy, but could have been Ertz. 4 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Friday at 01:07 PM Posted Friday at 01:07 PM 1 hour ago, Gregg said: I am sure Beane is looking into this. Can he make it work salary cap wise? Technically, yes. Realistically, no. The cap impact would result in some real roster pain. Next offseason would be a nightmare so it just wouldn’t be feasible. We really couldn’t make it work from a trade perspective either (not that Washington is trading him to anyone). Without McLauren their WR corps is awful so they'd pretty much be throwing away this season if they traded him and didn’t get a quality replacement back. That’s not happening with us - or any other team I can think of. 2 Quote
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