Dillenger4 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Tre white getting burned already. Oh, how things don't change 1 3 Quote
Logic Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said: On the other hand Bishop got the start ahead of Hamlin so that's counter to the "make the young guys earn it" approach. To be fair, Bishop also isn't a rookie. Despite his injuries, they saw him play a fair bit last year. And the last time the Bills took the field in an NFL game, Bishop was one of the starters at safety. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Thanks to all ya’ll for posting updates, we owe you! 8 8 1 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted July 23 Posted July 23 47 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: This might be where Keon gets his niche this year. He's having a rough camp start but we've seen him with the ball in his hands and in college he was part of the screen game so he can read holes This brings me back to the pre- Josh era One bad practice on the first day means his role should now be punt returns? man, this is a tough crowd 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 The over reaction on day 1 and the conclusions being drawn is classic TSW and popcorn worthy lol 4 3 1 Quote
Draconator Posted July 23 Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: The over reaction on day 1 and the conclusions being drawn is classic TSW and popcorn worthy lol There is no pre-season on TSW. The doubting and doom is in mid-season form already. 3 3 3 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted July 23 Posted July 23 17 minutes ago, Logic said: To be fair, Bishop also isn't a rookie. Despite his injuries, they saw him play a fair bit last year. And the last time the Bills took the field in an NFL game, Bishop was one of the starters at safety. Yes, ultimately I think they don't have a policy so much as they take it on a case-by-case basis. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: If you don’t care about what happens in camp or think it’s a waste of time to comment or speculate or whatever, I fear you’ve lost your love of the game. And I personally hope you find it. It’s just for fun and entertainment. Camp is exciting for everyone and talking about is fun. But - There is a massive difference in caring about camp and over reacting to every single tweet or play in camp, especially day 1. Every season there are a lot of people who like to "validate" their offseason hot takes (good or bad) off every little tweet, play, etc from camp, including day 1 of camp and it gets old and annoying. We literally all read the good/bad bias of everyone for 4 months - we don't need everyone to bias hunt on social media for evidence and justification of every hot take they had this offseason, especially on day 1 of camp. Guys doing well or making some miscues on day 1 of camp in shorts has literally no conclusive meaning either way. A bit early to establish darlings and whipping boys. I mean its pretty clear Keon is already beeing tee'd up as a whipping boy this camp to be over reacted to. Edited July 23 by Alphadawg7 3 1 3 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted July 23 Posted July 23 I want 1 thing and 1 thing only from this camp...No Injuries. Other than that, lose every preseason game for all I care. Just get out of camp healthy. 6 6 1 2 Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Benford again with great coverage on Coleman Dude this is soo tempting... 3 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Dunkirk Donski said: Dude this is soo tempting... There is no honor or glory in taking the easy ones. 1 1 Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted July 23 Posted July 23 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Camp is exciting for everyone and talking about is fun. But - There is a massive difference in caring about camp and over reacting to every single tweet or play in camp, especially day 1. Every season there are a lot of people who like to "validate" their offseason hot takes (good or bad) off every little tweet, play, etc from camp, including day 1 of camp and it gets old and annoying. We literally all read the good/bad bias of everyone for 4 months - we don't need everyone to bias hunt on social media for evidence and justification of every hot take they had this offseason, especially on day 1 of camp. Guys doing well or making some miscues on day 1 of camp in shorts has literally no conclusive meaning either way. A bit early to establish darlings and whipping boys. I mean its pretty clear Keon is already beeing tee'd up as a whipping boy this camp to be over reacted to. I realize there’s a little bit of irony in me complaining about complaining, but there’s like 10x as many posts complaining about over reactions than actual over reactions from day 1 of camp. i stand by what i said. I would rather read what people say who are actually watching camp, even if a minuscule of them have an agenda, than read 100 people complain about it. Just my 2 cents. 1 1 Quote
Paup 1995MVP Posted July 23 Posted July 23 15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Camp is exciting for everyone and talking about is fun. But - There is a massive difference in caring about camp and over reacting to every single tweet or play in camp, especially day 1. Every season there are a lot of people who like to "validate" their offseason hot takes (good or bad) off every little tweet, play, etc from camp, including day 1 of camp and it gets old and annoying. We literally all read the good/bad bias of everyone for 4 months - we don't need everyone to bias hunt on social media for evidence and justification of every hot take they had this offseason, especially on day 1 of camp. Guys doing well or making some miscues on day 1 of camp in shorts has literally no conclusive meaning either way. A bit early to establish darlings and whipping boys. I mean its pretty clear Keon is already beeing tee'd up as a whipping boy this camp to be over reacted to. Keon may just not be ready to have a starting role on an NFL team. I say this thinking back to Eric Moulds career. He did not blossom until year 3 with Doug Flutie. And then was a big time beast for the rest of his career as a Bill. That being said lets hope Keon can get it going. Separation seems to be a problem for the young man. And his hands don't seem great either when it comes to catching contested balls. Not good when separation is a problem. Our starters at WR could very well be Moore, Palmer and Shakir. Not a bad triumvirate if I do say so. 1 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Dear Lord if White can't even keep up with Coleman then they better start letting Max run with the starters Iron sharpens iron. Reminds me a lot of the epic Ed Wang vs Aaron Maybin camp battle. It was like a heavy weight bout, just trading blows. Every rep contested. It turned out that they were both awful, but you gotta love competition! 30 minutes ago, Draconator said: There is no pre-season on TSW. The doubting and doom is in mid-season form already. We are in mid-season form 24/7/365. No days off! 1 1 1 1 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 23 Posted July 23 44 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: One bad practice on the first day means his role should now be punt returns? man, this is a tough crowd Dude I've been in the "give Keon time" camp. It's way too early to pull the plug. But I'm also hearing Palmer and Moore looking *very* good through spring practices. If they're the better option at the outside right now they should have the job and let Keon develop 3 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Dude I've been in the "give Keon time" camp. It's way too early to pull the plug. But I'm also hearing Palmer and Moore looking *very* good through spring practices. If they're the better option at the outside right now they should have the job and let Keon develop I feel like Keon will never, ever be a decent volume WR. He will be a big chunk yardage guy once or twice a game. I'm guessing this year, 45 catches. 7 TD's. 600 yards. 3 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Keon may just not be ready to have a starting role on an NFL team. I say this thinking back to Eric Moulds career. He did not blossom until year 3 with Doug Flutie. And then was a big time beast for the rest of his career as a Bill. That being said lets hope Keon can get it going. Separation seems to be a problem for the young man. And his hands don't seem great either when it comes to catching contested balls. Not good when separation is a problem. Our starters at WR could very well be Moore, Palmer and Shakir. Not a bad triumvirate if I do say so. While its way too early to know anything today, the thing I love about this staff is that nothing is given. Everything is earned even with like high draft picks like Elam (who sat behind Benford despite the 1st round pick) or Bishop (who was a backup despite the high pick and expectations). So yeah I agree with you that if Keon struggles throughout camp and preseason to establish his right to and readiness to start now, then yeah, this is certainly a combo we could see a lot of regarding Palmer, Moore, and Shakir (assuming Moore can establish himself once the pads go on, easy to look good in shorts when you are fast). One thing I will add, is that this is not the time of camp where a player like Keon shines, but it is a time where a player like Moore shines. Fast guys always excel in shorts and physical guys not as much before pads go on. So people need to take it with a grain of salt right now when Moore does something in shorts and Keon isn't doing as much when things are less physical. Edited July 23 by Alphadawg7 5 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 23 Posted July 23 27 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Keon may just not be ready to have a starting role on an NFL team. I say this thinking back to Eric Moulds career. He did not blossom until year 3 with Doug Flutie. And then was a big time beast for the rest of his career as a Bill. That being said lets hope Keon can get it going. Separation seems to be a problem for the young man. And his hands don't seem great either when it comes to catching contested balls. Not good when separation is a problem. Our starters at WR could very well be Moore, Palmer and Shakir. Not a bad triumvirate if I do say so. Keon will be the Hollins role from last year. He's not good enough to be a 1 or a 2 but he can be a fantastic 4. Palmer and Moore are 1 and 2. And the radio guys were right when they said Beane didn't do enough at WR thus he added Moore. 1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Hard Knocks trailer dropped - got a couple nice Keon highlights from this offseason in it for those overly concerned about anything from day 1 today lol Trailer got me amped for not just camp and the show - but the season! LFG 1 12 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Calm your self Ethan, it’s one play on the first day of TC, Cmon man. Of course it is. We all like Tre but I think we all want to see Hairston be a plug and play starter. Need to wash off the stick of Elam. White as CB#3 or #4 is not a bad thing. 1 1 Quote
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