Garrett Wilson massive extension

[frostbitmic]

He's the best player on their team, you keep those guys. 

 

$30M + a year Receivers will be commonplace in a couple of years.

[Sojourner]

3 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

No… no it’s not.  If you don’t have a franchise QB, the strategy is to pay NOBODY, and devote your resources toward finding that QB.

 If that means going 0-17 to do it, you do it!  Just don’t throw your cap space away on resources that aren’t going to move the needle if you don’t have the QB first

If you’re proven at not paying then who, even if it is subconsciously, is going to go there?

 

You retain the blue chip players and hope you knock it out of the park in terms of drafting a QB. Star players at that position almost never hit the market. And if they do, retaining a player of Wilson’s caliber and not jettisoning them is the exact reason one would choose to sign there. 

[QCity]

He had another year on his rookie deal, did this have to happen now? Are they projecting his numbers to go up with Fields under center?  Retaining star players is fine, but the timing here is questionable.

 

[RoscoeParrish]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Classic Jets move. He'll never be worth it with who they have throwing the ball to him (Fields or otherwise).

Hes put up 1k every year with disastrous QBs.

 

he may be one of the few who is worth is despite the QB imo. 

[HOUSE]

15 minutes ago, notwoz said:

You'd be smiling too, with that contract!

I'd be smiling about ten dollars

[MJS]

19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If you take that idea to its logical extreme, you might as well say that no investments are worth making until you have your franchise QB. That of course would be a ridiculous philosophy for a team to take. When you find your franchise QB you want the team around him to already be in good shape.

 

There's nothing to criticize the Jets for with this extension. They signed a great player to a market value deal.

For other positions, sure, but not WR with how their contracts have been skyrocketing and how dependent they are on the QB.

[RoscoeParrish]

20 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

No… no it’s not.  If you don’t have a franchise QB, the strategy is to pay NOBODY, and devote your resources toward finding that QB.

 If that means going 0-17 to do it, you do it!  Just don’t throw your cap space away on resources that aren’t going to move the needle if you don’t have the QB first

This doesn’t make much sense. 
 

First of all, there’s a salary cap floor. They do have to pay somebody.

Also, the large majority of franchise QBs aren’t found with cap space. They are found with draft picks, which makes them quite cheap. 

[MJS]

5 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Hes put up 1k every year with disastrous QBs.

 

he may be one of the few who is worth is despite the QB 

And he'll keep helping them get to 6 or 7 wins a season.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Dumb contract, but it's the Jests so...

[BillsSbSoon]

All that one’s saying that was a dumb contract, and it might be cause it could get wasted with fields, but imagine that kind of young talent with Josh right now. Nobody would be saying it’s a dumb contract

[RoscoeParrish]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

And he'll keep helping them get to 6 or 7 wins a season.

So be it?

 

Everyone can’t tank. Nor should they.

 

The Jets should try to retain their top talent to help the next highly drafted QB they bring in to help them succeed. Not pinch pennies to perpetuate the worst culture in the NFL, then pick a 20 year old to save them by himself.

Did I miss something or did the Bills not trade multiple picks AND pay a high salary to a top flight WR to help out their young QB?

 

Should the Jets let Garrett Wilson walk then trade a first or two to get the next WR? Or should they just pay the WR now and get the QB next year?

[H2o]

$153.4M over the next 6 years for Garrett Wilson. That averages out to about $25.6M per season. What would be the sentiment around here if we did that? 

[HappyDays]

19 minutes ago, MJS said:

For other positions, sure, but not WR with how their contracts have been skyrocketing and how dependent they are on the QB.

 

So if next year they draft a QB what's the plan?

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

So be it?

 

Everyone can’t tank. Nor should they.

 

The Jets should try to retain their top talent to help the next highly drafted QB they bring in to help them succeed. Not pinch pennies to perpetuate the worst culture in the NFL, then pick a 20 year old to save them by himself.

Did I miss something or did the Bills not trade multiple picks AND pay a high salary to a top flight WR to help out their young QB?

 

Should the Jets let Garrett Wilson walk then trade a first or two to get the next WR? Or should they just pay the WR now and get the QB next year?

They traded for a WR with an already existing cost controlled deal that was not close to top of the market. And then that WR became elite. He was not elite before joining the Bills. And they did pay him later, and that pretty much blew up in their faces.

 

Teams like the Bills and the Chiefs moved on from the elite, top of the market receivers and have been making it work with guys they sign and draft who aren't top of the market guys. Because the top of the market for receivers is overvalued right now.

Just now, HappyDays said:

So if next year they draft a QB what's the plan?

Destroy him and set him up for failure like they always do. It's the Jets.

[Kirby Jackson]

43 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

No… no it’s not.  If you don’t have a franchise QB, the strategy is to pay NOBODY, and devote your resources toward finding that QB.

 If that means going 0-17 to do it, you do it!  Just don’t throw your cap space away on resources that aren’t going to move the needle if you don’t have the QB first

What franchise QB is just hitting the market that you can throw money at? Darnold? That’s not how it works anymore. They don’t go to FA. You likely have to draft one. You can occasionally get lucky with a reclamation project that is cheap (see Baker Mayfield). If you draft one, the first thing you have to do is find them an elite WR. If you aren’t paying a franchise QB you have loads of cap space. You can win in the QBs rookie deal with the right high need talent around him (like the 49ers with Purdy) or the Chiefs with Mahomes. Imagine having an elite WR already? It is a no brainer and the perfect time to pay a WR.

[NewEra]

Stud.  He deserves it

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

Destroy him and set him up for failure like they always do. It's the Jets.

 

You're arguing against your own point here... Having an elite WR helps whatever QB they draft to be their future become the best version of himself. There's no sense in waiting when the WR market is only going to get more expensive.

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

OR….. we could be the Bengals and sign TWO WRs to giant contracts, then recruit from the season ticket holder fanbase to fill out the rest of the roster.  It might help with the remaining PSLs. 

 

 

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Or, you could lose people who were going to buy a PSL so they can sit on the field

[appoo]

26 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Dumb contract, but it's the Jests so...

For one of the 5 most talented WRs alive?

[MJS]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

You're arguing against your own point here... Having an elite WR helps whatever QB they draft to be their future become the best version of himself. There's no sense in waiting when the WR market is only going to get more expensive.

Not really. While they spend the next decade looking for their QB, Wilson will have an ok career and then leave and be just a footnote in the history of their franchise.