Coming this Fall - The 2025 defense

[BillsFan619]

Go Bills!

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 06:34 AM by BillsFan619

[Gregg]

To me this is the most important part for the Bills chances in the winning the Super Bowl with the exception of #17. At this point we know what we will get from Allen and the offense. Although I hope the Bills and Cook can work out a deal. We can't have our second-best player on offense either holding out or not happy playing this year. If the defense can prove to be a good defense, then I like the Bills chances to win it all.

Edited Tuesday at 11:35 AM by Gregg

[dorquemada]

I've said it here before.  I'd rather see a less statistically dominant defense like we had last year than one that can make a big stop in a big moment.   Please please please let one of the 193 DL that we drafted be a keeper

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

I've said it here before.  I'd rather see a less statistically dominant defense like we had last year than one that can make a big stop in a big moment.   Please please please let one of the 193 DL that we drafted be a keeper

Last years defense wasn’t close to statistically dominant. 

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Last years defense wasn’t close to statistically dominant. 

 

There was a reason we drafted almost all defense and brought in defensive FA’s, we didn’t have the horses with sufficient depth in the past. 

[dorquemada]

5 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

There was a reason we drafted almost all defense and brought in defensive FA’s, we didn’t have the horses with sufficient depth in the past. 

 

Not for a lack of drafting D in prior years though.  That calls into question our regime's ability to recognize talent

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

Not for a lack of drafting D in prior years though.  That calls into question our regime's ability to recognize talent

 

As co-Super Bowl favorites, I would argue it hasn’t been as shabby as some people will lead you to believe. 

[FireChans]

14 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

There was a reason we drafted almost all defense and brought in defensive FA’s, we didn’t have the horses with sufficient depth in the past. 

We’ve never had the horses on the DL.

 

The last SB caliber DL in Buffalo was in 2014.

[dorquemada]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

As co-Super Bowl favorites, I would argue it hasn’t been as shabby as some people will lead you to believe. 

 

Again, our D looks good in the regular season for the most part but can't make the big play against KC when it counts.  This should not be a controversial take.  Josh Allen can't play D too.

[Augie]

6 hours ago, dorquemada said:

 

Again, our D looks good in the regular season for the most part but can't make the big play against KC when it counts.  This should not be a controversial take.  Josh Allen can't play D too.

Because we were often out of players on D come the playoffs, hence bringing guys like AJ Klein back from vacation to suit up again. We needed better depth when we got to the playoffs and the injuries piled up. 

 

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Edited Tuesday at 07:25 PM by Augie

[Chandler#81]

I’m concerned with our busted druggies. Not alllwed back til after the Bye, how are we gonna treat this? I consider Ogunjobi a washout, having only signed a 1 year deal. Hoeght, on the other hand, is a very good player and inked to a 3 year deal. But with all the other additions to the Dline whom we need to step right in and perform, where will we be at that time? Our rookie Dline players have HUGE potential at both DE & DT. If Bosa & Groot come through -meaning contributing significantly to wins through the 1st 6 weeks, who gets dumped then and why? I can’t/wont hope for an injury that would open a role, but if TJ Sanders, Solomon, Epenesa, Dwayne Carter & Landon Jackson show out early -and many of us hope/expect this, who goes to open spots.

Granted, a ‘wonderful problem’ we’ve never concerned about in the past, but this year is definitely different!

[pi2000]

They added a gimpy Bosa, 2 suspended players, and a bunch of rookies.

 

I'm expecting the defense to perform similar to last season, maybe even take a step back against the pass with the loss of Douglas and addition of White/Hairston. 

 

Run defense and 3rd down will continue to be an issue until these rookies mature.

[HOUSE]

Hopefully we will enjoy the 4th quarter more this year

I am so tired of last minute shoot outs.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

I read the thread title, and figured that it was misfiled from PP&P.

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According to the PR flak, defense is hungry.  On offense, "everybody eats".  Better not let Lunch Lady Gettleman catch wind of this.  Training table meals are costly, and must be rigidly policed. 🤨

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:09 PM by Ridgewaycynic2013

[NewEra]

Get off the field on 3rd down.  The inability to do so last season was incredibly frustrating (especially on 3rd annd long) and was our defenses biggest problem.  

[fergie's ire]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

There was a reason we drafted almost all defense and brought in defensive FA’s, we didn’t have the horses with sufficient depth in the past. 

Agreed.  Just look at who we had in the backfield against KC.  I do, however, also think that philosophy was part of the problem.  The coaching changes are promising and suggest a more aggressive defense.  Although McDermott is seen as conservative, he does have a remarkable willing to change that we have mostly seen play out on offense so far (e.g. installing Brady).  However, he seems to learn and be willing to change and I think the learning moment was last year in a 2 game sequence.  We were scoring at least 30 points every game but against the Rams, the Rams were aggressive early and stole a couple of possessions and the Bills never caught up.  The next week, we played Detroit and we saw a Bills defense start aggressively and do the same thing to Detroit.  With an offense that regularly scores 30, a defense can risk giving up a big play or two...but also make some big plays.  So, I think he is seeing that they can risk attacking and give up on the bend, don't break defense.  Won't know for sure until we see it...but there are very hopeful signs.

[Lost]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Get off the field on 3rd down.  The inability to do so last season was incredibly frustrating (especially on 3rd annd long) and was our defenses biggest problem.  

 

I swear the Bills have the worst defense in history on 3rd and longs.   If only I weren't too lazy to do the research and see if that's true or not.  

[Fleezoid]

3 hours ago, dorquemada said:

 

Not for a lack of drafting D in prior years though.  That calls into question our regime's ability to recognize talent

 

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

As co-Super Bowl favorites, I would argue it hasn’t been as shabby as some people will lead you to believe. 

 

I think from a talent perspective, they've missed on getting some big-playmaker type guys. Instead, I think they've been focusing on the wrong style of players across the board; fast, but slightly undersized. Having some of those guys is okay, but it's led the team to the bend-but-don't break world.

 

I think what a lot of fans are looking for is a more stout front-7.  Shut down running games, and force long fields. Quit living in the red zone defensively!

 

And btw.....is this the official start of the hype-video season?

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:10 PM by Fleezoid

[Mark Vader]

48 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Get off the field on 3rd down.  The inability to do so last season was incredibly frustrating (especially on 3rd annd long) and was our defenses biggest problem.  

Yet the defense somehow found a way to step up on 3rd and sometimes 4th and inches, on multiple occasions.

 

Our defense was strange.

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Yet the defense somehow found a way to step up on 3rd and sometimes 4th and inches, on multiple occasions.

 

Our defense was strange.

For sure.  Overall, I was confident most instances where we lined up on 3rd and 4th and 1 or less.  So strange