sven233 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: And Josh Allen will pick them apart. That's going to be on the new WRs we added to make that happen. There is a reason we didn't move the ball all that well in the early matchup with this last year. We didn't have a single guy that could create separation one on one and they knew it. They got up in our WRs faces, brought the safeties down and dared us to beat them down the field and we couldn't do it because we didn't have the talent at WR. There's a reason we went out and took a flyer on Cooper. It was painfully obvious we needed more. As it turns out, while it looks like the wheels may have fallen off Cooper last year, he was good enough to make a couple of great contested catches down the field that opened up things just enough for the offense to get back on track. The Playoff game went a little better on offense, but it's not like we went out there and moved the ball at will. Make no mistake about it.....it wasn't easy for the offense either game against them last season. I do have higher expectations for our WR group with the additions of Palmer and Moore, but they have to prove they can beat teams down the field in order to force teams to back their safeties off again. If we can't create separation on a regular basis, it's going to be tough going once again. 3 Quote
appoo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, sven233 said: That's going to be on the new WRs we added to make that happen. There is a reason we didn't move the ball all that well in the early matchup with this last year. We didn't have a single guy that could create separation one on one and they knew it. They got up in our WRs faces, brought the safeties down and dared us to beat them down the field and we couldn't do it because we didn't have the talent at WR. There's a reason we went out and took a flyer on Cooper. It was painfully obvious we needed more. As it turns out, while it looks like the wheels may have fallen off Cooper last year, he was good enough to make a couple of great contested catches down the field that opened up things just enough for the offense to get back on track. The Playoff game went a little better on offense, but it's not like we went out there and moved the ball at will. Make no mistake about it.....it wasn't easy for the offense either game against them last season. I do have higher expectations for our WR group with the additions of Palmer and Moore, but they have to prove they can beat teams down the field in order to force teams to back their safeties off again. If we can't create separation on a regular basis, it's going to be tough going once again. We got outplayed in the playoff game, but also played very conservatively on offense as a strategy to protect a defense that was wildly outmatched. Bills had 20 first downs that game, ran the ball 36 times, and threw it just 22 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 15 minutes ago, appoo said: It's kinda nuts. They were the best team in football last season. Should have beaten us. Would have beaten the pants off KC and SB would have been a lot of fun at what point of the season were they the best team in the league and why should they have beaten Buffalo? 1 1 Quote
sven233 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, appoo said: We got outplayed in the playoff game, but also played very conservatively on offense as a strategy to protect a defense that was wildly outmatched. Bills had 20 first downs that game, ran the ball 36 times, and threw it just 22 Right.....and that will not result in a win more often than not. The turnovers happened so you can't take them away, but that is not a game plan that we can rely on to beat that team too often. 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, appoo said: We got outplayed in the playoff game, but also played very conservatively on offense as a strategy to protect a defense that was wildly outmatched. Bills had 20 first downs that game, ran the ball 36 times, and threw it just 22 Teams with the lead run the ball especially when they are really good at running the ball. In what way did the Ravens outplay the bills? The Bills controlled the game at the line of scrimmage, The defense got takeaways, the offense did not commit a turnover. That is playoff winning football. The Ravens did the opposite. 2 Quote
appoo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: Teams with the lead run the ball especially when they are really good at running the ball. In what way did the Ravens outplay the bills? The Bills controlled the game at the line of scrimmage, The defense got takeaways, the offense did not commit a turnover. That is playoff winning football. The Ravens did the opposite. Maybe "outplayed" is the wrong term here, but Ravens' potential for scoring was higher in that game. The vibes of that game felt like Buffalo just trying to contain the Ravens and just survive. But to your point, that's just often playoff football. And I should also give credit to the Bills coaching staff which I thought did a phenomanel job that night Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Multiply All pros and pro-bowlers all over that team. Yet when we have people thinking we can get better at WR this fan base and management loses their crap. Getting good player is getting good players period. You don't stop trying because you had a great record the year before. Jmo. Not that it's worth anything. Maybe they will be able to beat Gardner Minshew at home next year 1 Quote
appoo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: at what point of the season were they the best team in the league and why should they have beaten Buffalo? They had the #1 offensive EPA by a quite a margine, and defensively they were #8. 1 Quote
FLFan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Be careful everyone, the sky might actually be falling. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, appoo said: They had the #1 offensive EPA by a quite a margine, and defensively they were #8. they were never better at any point than KC, Detroit or philly. 1 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Teams with the lead run the ball especially when they are really good at running the ball. In what way did the Ravens outplay the bills? The Bills controlled the game at the line of scrimmage, The defense got takeaways, the offense did not commit a turnover. That is playoff winning football. The Ravens did the opposite. Ravens outgained us 416-273. Went 7/10 on 3rd down and 1/1 on 4th down. Without Lamar gifting us a couple of turnovers there's no way we win the game. Even winning the turnover margin 3-0 it came down to Mark Andrews dropping an easy 2 pt conversion. 3 Quote
appoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Ravens outgained us 416-273. Went 7/10 on 3rd down and 1/1 on 4th down. Without Lamar gifting us a couple of turnovers there's no way we win the game. Even winning the turnover margin 3-0 it came down to Mark Andrews dropping an easy 2 pt conversion. you know Josh was gonna put that B word in the end zone with 1:30 or whatever left Quote
ngbills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Bills sign Bosa and Tre White - lets celebrate. We are instantly better. Ravens sign Alexander - who cares. This does nothing for them, he will be hurt by week 9. $6M max for this guy is a good deal. Would have been worth the gamble. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 18 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Ravens outgained us 416-273. Went 7/10 on 3rd down and 1/1 on 4th down. Without Lamar gifting us a couple of turnovers there's no way we win the game. Even winning the turnover margin 3-0 it came down to Mark Andrews dropping an easy 2 pt conversion. Yes that is called winning in the playoffs. make mistakes, lose....force mistakes, win. The takeaways were not gifted they were earned. The strip of Andrews was not lamar gifting turnovers. The Bills were never chasing the game and the ravens seemingly were chasing it all night. Quote
Doc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Buffalo4Life01 said: Wish He would have picked them apart either one of the two games he played against them last season LOL! Why? They won. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, appoo said: I don't think we need more at WR either. I do believe we need more experienced blue chip talent at corner and Safety I'm just for more talent anywhere I don't care where, but I hear ya. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Another good player goes to a great team. He will help them. I was hoping that he’d stay in the NFC but 🤷🏻♂️ Depends how much he is on the field. If the last 2 years are any indication, it won't be very much...especially going to a team that is extremely questionable in terms of doing things to ensure players are kept as healthy as possible. Quote
appoo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Depends how much he is on the field. If the last 2 years are any indication, it won't be very much...especially going to a team that is extremely questionable in terms of doing things to ensure players are kept as healthy as possible. Have a feeling he'll find a way to stay on the field this season Quote
Brand J Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: Teams with the lead run the ball especially when they are really good at running the ball. In what way did the Ravens outplay the bills? The Bills controlled the game at the line of scrimmage, The defense got takeaways, the offense did not commit a turnover. That is playoff winning football. The Ravens did the opposite. I was just about to swoop in to say “no, we didn’t get outplayed.” The Bills were one more yard from taking a commanding 31-19 lead. Instead they settled for the FG and sat on the 27-19 lead until BMore made us pay. Whole second half on offense was playing not to give the game away. Quote
Mark Vader Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, sven233 said: That's going to be on the new WRs we added to make that happen. There is a reason we didn't move the ball all that well in the early matchup with this last year. We didn't have a single guy that could create separation one on one and they knew it. They got up in our WRs faces, brought the safeties down and dared us to beat them down the field and we couldn't do it because we didn't have the talent at WR. There's a reason we went out and took a flyer on Cooper. It was painfully obvious we needed more. As it turns out, while it looks like the wheels may have fallen off Cooper last year, he was good enough to make a couple of great contested catches down the field that opened up things just enough for the offense to get back on track. The Playoff game went a little better on offense, but it's not like we went out there and moved the ball at will. Make no mistake about it.....it wasn't easy for the offense either game against them last season. I do have higher expectations for our WR group with the additions of Palmer and Moore, but they have to prove they can beat teams down the field in order to force teams to back their safeties off again. If we can't create separation on a regular basis, it's going to be tough going once again. We also did a stupid flea flicker play on offense that lead to a turnover in that first game, and killed a potential comeback. That is on Joe Brady. Remember how the second half started in that game? The Ravens went 3 & Out. Bills got the ball and drove down for a touchdown. Ravens get the ball and go 3 & Out AGAIN! Bills get the ball, get to midfield and do a stupid unnecessary flea flicker which resulted in a turnover and put the game out of reach. Edited 3 hours ago by Mark Vader Quote
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