A Kyle Pitts market appears

[Matt_In_NH]

15 hours ago, Brand J said:

He ran a 4.4 at 6’6” 246? Didn’t realize he was that big and fast, he should be dominating. Do think it’ll take more than a 3rd like this article speculates.

Speed and size alone are not very useful.   Don't get me wrong those are great measurables for the position but just size and speed does not make you a successful NFL TE.  There is a range of attributes you need.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

That 5th year option price basically makes it only available to teams who have another contract to send back.  

[mannc]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

no. they did . they blocked. pretty good for a tight end too.

 

LOL, they were basketball players

[BarleyNY]

17 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

That 5th year option price basically makes it only available to teams who have another contract to send back.  

Yep. Unless a team wants to take a chance on him and extend his contract. 

[boyst]

41 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Bills best tight ends in history using PFR AV have been Dawson Knox, Paul Costa [who was converted to a tackle] Jay Reimersma & Pete Metzelaars, none in Kelce's class.

I supremely believe Kelce is overrated. A system TE benefiting from Willford Brimley and Brittany Mahomes husband.

 

I think his positives are his ability to sit down in open space and find green spaces. He also has good hands. 

 

I don't think he is efficient for running routes or being much more than a check down guy. He has been completely taken out of games far too often. 

13 minutes ago, mannc said:

LOL, they were basketball players

They played the position and were at least able to chop block and chip. 

 

Kelce gets butthurt if he has to touch anyone. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

24 minutes ago, boyst said:

I supremely believe Kelce is overrated. A system TE benefiting from Willford Brimley and Brittany Mahomes husband.

 

I think his positives are his ability to sit down in open space and find green spaces. He also has good hands. 

 

I don't think he is efficient for running routes or being much more than a check down guy. He has been completely taken out of games far too often. 

They played the position and were at least able to chop block and chip. 

 

Kelce gets butthurt if he has to touch anyone. 

 

Overrated i guess is fine - He did have like 300 catches and 4000 yards prior to Mahomes playing though.  Most players who have played against him say he's deceptively fast, and a tremendous route runner for someone who's 6'5 250.  He creates space to sit down by having an elite knowledge on player leverage and how to use his body to create space.  

 

His 17 game average for playoffs is 121 catches for 1413 yards and 14 TDs, with a 80.9% catch rate.  

 

I think its easy to say he's washed based off of last seasons production, but he's also 35 and thats ignoring 2016-2022 where he made 4 1st team all-pro's and averaged 96/1229/8 TDs.  To credit Reid and Mahomes with making HIM better, ignores the fact that his skill-set has been moving the chains and scoring TDs for that team since 2014.  

[Beck Water]

16 hours ago, Billl said:

There's a baseball acronym, TINSTAAPP. There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.  In football, TINSTAATEP. There is no such thing as a Tight End prospect. 

 

TE prospect Noah Grey appeared to be taking a bit of a step in his 4th season.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

I supremely believe Kelce is overrated. A system TE benefiting from Willford Brimley and Brittany Mahomes husband.

 

I think his positives are his ability to sit down in open space and find green spaces. He also has good hands. 

 

I don't think he is efficient for running routes or being much more than a check down guy. He has been completely taken out of games far too often. 

They played the position and were at least able to chop block and chip. 

 

Kelce gets butthurt if he has to touch anyone. 

 

I don't understand that last.  Kelce seems notorious for pushing off IMO.

 

You can think whatcha like, but facts are that Kelce had 2 respectable 800+ yd seasons and 2  1000+ yd seasons before Mahomes ever took the field.  And most pundits seem to credit him with very good route running skills for a TE.  

Did his career benefit from playing with Mahomes vs. whatever crap at QB they've fielded in Atlanta, sure.  Every receiver benefits from great QB play.

Now, of the last 2 years, has Kelce been taken out of games and less productive, Yeah.  And it shows in his stats.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

13 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I don't understand that last.  Kelce seems notorious for pushing off IMO.

 

You can think whatcha like, but facts are that Kelce had 2 respectable 800+ yd seasons and 2  1000+ yd seasons before Mahomes ever took the field.  And most pundits seem to credit him with very good route running skills for a TE.  

Did his career benefit from playing with Mahomes vs. whatever crap at QB they've fielded in Atlanta, sure.  Every receiver benefits from great QB play.

Now, of the last 2 years, has Kelce been taken out of games and less productive, Yeah.  And it shows in his stats.

 

He's also 34-35 at a position where you get your ankles and knees chopped at constantly.  He seems a lot slower than even 2 years ago.  

[Paup 1995MVP]

17 hours ago, Augie said:

 

The hype was super high, and he looked like a freak to me coming out. I live right here in Atlanta, so since he doesn’t play for UGA I don’t hear much about him.  

 

I’m like a bird watcher when I have a rare Falcons gear sighting. 

 

 

 

I live in Atlanta too.  And the Falcons are definitely not overhyped to say the least.  I do like them more then the Braves though.  

 

Pitts' play has been underwhelming to say the least.  Guy doesn't play nearly as fast as his 40 time.  Is not twitchy in the slightest.  I also think the Falcons coaching has been pretty lousy since he came in the league.  Arthur Smith just wanted to run the ball.  And is no passing guru.  And Raheem Morris is marginal also.  

 

Maybe a change of scenery is what the guy needs to realize his potential.  But I would not hold my breath.  Seems like a Cowboys move to overtrade for a guy like Pitts.  LOL

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[mannc]

4 hours ago, boyst said:

I supremely believe Kelce is overrated. A system TE benefiting from Willford Brimley and Brittany Mahomes husband.

 

I think his positives are his ability to sit down in open space and find green spaces. He also has good hands. 

 

I don't think he is efficient for running routes or being much more than a check down guy. He has been completely taken out of games far too often. 

They played the position and were at least able to chop block and chip. 

 

Kelce gets butthurt if he has to touch anyone. 

That’s just not true

[3rdand12]

9 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Bills best tight ends in history using PFR AV have been Dawson Knox, Paul Costa [who was converted to a tackle] Jay Reimersma & Pete Metzelaars, none in Kelce's class.

No Scott Chandler ?

9 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Speed and size alone are not very useful.   Don't get me wrong those are great measurables for the position but just size and speed does not make you a successful NFL TE.  There is a range of attributes you need.

Including , how teams use the TE positions

[L Ron Burgundy]

On 6/1/2025 at 9:02 PM, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

He's not a potential super star. 

I think a lot of gms disagree with that.  I'm not sure myself.   With top tier qb play does that change his game?  I think likely yes, question is by how much.  If you're a gm and think he is a superstar just waiting for a good qb, you try and make it work.  

[buffblue]

Imagine drafting this guy with the #4 overall pick

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I think a lot of gms disagree with that.  I'm not sure myself.   With top tier qb play does that change his game?  I think likely yes, question is by how much.  If you're a gm and think he is a superstar just waiting for a good qb, you try and make it work.  

If he requires top tier QB play then by definition, he's not a superstar. A superstar tight end would elevate the play of his QB. He's had 4 years in the league already. His rookie year was pretty good. After that he looks a lot like a Kincaid type player, frankly. 

[billsfan89]

On 6/2/2025 at 8:32 AM, Matt_In_NH said:

Speed and size alone are not very useful.   Don't get me wrong those are great measurables for the position but just size and speed does not make you a successful NFL TE.  There is a range of attributes you need.

 

Pitts had a lot of good attributes in addition to his size and speed. He ran a full receiving route and was a willing blocker in college. It's not that he's been bad as a pro if he was picked in the 20's instead of 4th overall he would be looked at as a draft "hit" instead of someone whose underperformed. Pitts had 1k as a rookie and after a injury in year two has back to back 600 yard seasons in years 3 and 4. So it isn't like he's unproductive. He's just not really lived up to highest drafted at his position ever billing thus far. He's only 25 and Vernon Davis who was drafted 6th overall at TE got off to a slower start to his career as his first 3 years were underwhelming. And Davis had a break out in 2009 at age 25. So I wouldn't write Pitts off just yet.

 

Is he a fit for the Bills? No, I don't think he makes sense but I think another TE hungry team could come calling and get a good player for a 3rd round pick or so.

[L Ron Burgundy]

14 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

If he requires top tier QB play then by definition, he's not a superstar. 

He can't throw the ball to himself.   Only Chuck Norris and Josh Allen can do that.

[Logic]

I was a big Kyle Pitts believer and bought into the hype when he declared for the draft. 

I followed his career closely because I spent a high dynasty draft pick on him and was there personally invested in his success (at least insofar as gambling real American dollars on my imaginary football team was concerned).

After his promising rookie season where he looked like The Next Big Thing, it's been all downhill. 

At first I bought into the "injuries" narrative. Then I bought into the "Arthur Smith" narrative. Then, last year, he finally had what looked like a clear runway, and yet he STILL had coaches taking him off the field for 50% or more of offensive snaps and talking about how he needed to stay fast and consistent and, basically, not take plays off or lope around. Some, I suppose, will continue to absolve him of blame, saying that it's Kirk Cousins' fault.

Me? I'm not making any more excuses. It's clear to me what the problem is with Pitts: He just doesn't seem to have that dawg in him. Coaches this offseason are STILL talking about him learning what they expect from him, playing as fast as he knows how to, blah blah blah. Not good. Add to that yet another injury -- this time to his foot, of all things -- and I'm fully out.

I sold off all my dynasty Kyle Pitts shares and have officially given up on him ever living up to his vast potential. He's somewhere between Eric Ebron and Noah Fant, but with the motivation and effort levels of Joe Barry Carroll. 


 

[3rdand12]

Thanks Logic

 Nice to have a more informed perspective from someone "vested" lol

But yea. Helpful insight. He might be a a wussy