Dalton Kincaid Still Skinny

[oldmanfan]

6 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Don't forget propping up other teams young players.  Last year it was all about how we could have had breece hall over no-hands cook.  Now the same people want Cook extended.

Good point

[BADOLBILZ]

33 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Kid caught over 70 passes his rookie year…..caught 40 his 2nd year while dealing with injuries. Fans are questioning if he’s a bust which is crazy to me……if he has a mediocre 3rd year then I’ll jump on the bandwagon, but write him off now makes no sense to me!

 

 

They are questioning if he's a bust because he had a HORRIFIC playoffs.   He dropped uncontested passes and contested passes.   Even the one nice play he was credited with against Denver was a MMMMMMDRRRop!   

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/dalton-kincaid-s-35-yard-diving-grab-advances-bills-into-broncos-territory-bills-vs-broncos

 

When you are horrible in big games like that people are going to remember.   If he plays well in the playoffs nobody is referencing his regular season stats.   They are singing his praises like Gabe Davis after 13 seconds.

[Pete]

21 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Above you said mediocre TEs do well against the Bills.  A subjective opinion.  But when it comes to Kincaid and someone offers a subjective opinion you demand data.  Can you explain why?

Because I watch every Bills game, and most often rewatch it.  A casual observer could tell you that the Bills gave up a lot of 3rd and long conversions. Have you not witnessed this with your Bills colored glasses?

[Beck Water]

25 minutes ago, Pete said:

Because I watch every Bills game, and most often rewatch it.  A casual observer could tell you that the Bills gave up a lot of 3rd and long conversions. Have you not witnessed this with your Bills colored glasses?

 

Hmmm.  Wondering if there's a free source for these data?  Also how you define "3rd and long"?

What does a casual observer tell you about the Chiefs 3rd down results?

 

16 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Never. 

 

I respect you, Richard, but it doesn't sound like my cup of lemon ginger kombucha.

 

I want to respect you, but I'm struggling to respect someone who puts lemon ginger kombucha in their cup.

Do you drink it after you put it there?

Edited 9 hours ago by Beck Water

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Hmmm.  Wondering if there's a free source for these data?  Also how you define "3rd and long"?

What does a casual observer tell you about the Chiefs 3rd down results?

 

 

I want to respect you, but I'm struggling to respect someone who puts lemon ginger kombucha in their cup.

Do you drink it after you put it there?

Did we watch the same 2024 Bills? Why are you challenging the truth?
 

AI Overview

+1

The Bills' defense struggled on third downs, particularly on third-and-long situations, in the 2024 season, ranking 30th in the NFL for third-down stops. They allowed first downs at a concerning rate of 43.8% on third down, according to Syracuse.com. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown: 

Third-Down Struggles:

The Bills allowed 44% of their opponents' third-down attempts to convert, which was the second-worst in the league. 

Third-Down Stop Percentage:

The Bills' 44% third-down stop percentage was significantly below the NFL average, highlighting their issues with getting off the field on third downs. 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Pete

[oldmanfan]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Because I watch every Bills game, and most often rewatch it.  A casual observer could tell you that the Bills gave up a lot of 3rd and long conversions. Have you not witnessed this with your Bills colored glasses?

Third and long to whom?  Yes?  WRs?  Who?  The fact remains you demand objective data from anyone who challenges your arguments but then cast your subjective opinions when you feel fit.  Just seems hypocritical.  
 

We’ll all know soon enough how the offense looks.  Given the success the offense had last year I think we’ll be just fine.  And if that means I have rose colored glasses on fine by me.

8 minutes ago, Pete said:

Did we watch the same 2024 Bills? Why are you challenging the truth?
 

AI Overview

+1

The Bills' defense struggled on third downs, particularly on third-and-long situations, in the 2024 season, ranking 30th in the NFL for third-down stops. They allowed first downs at a concerning rate of 43.8% on third down, according to Syracuse.com. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown: 

Third-Down Struggles:

The Bills allowed 44% of their opponents' third-down attempts to convert, which was the second-worst in the league. 

Third-Down Stop Percentage:

The Bills' 44% third-down stop percentage was significantly below the NFL average, highlighting their issues with getting off the field on third downs. 

 

 

All the more reason to go heavy on defense in the draft.

[Billsfed1]

On 5/12/2025 at 5:30 AM, DJB said:

My wife told me the same thing 😭

Nicely done lol

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, Pete said:

Did we watch the same 2024 Bills? Why are you challenging the truth?
 

AI Overview

+1

The Bills' defense struggled on third downs, particularly on third-and-long situations, in the 2024 season, ranking 30th in the NFL for third-down stops. They allowed first downs at a concerning rate of 43.8% on third down, according to Syracuse.com. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown: 

Third-Down Struggles:

The Bills allowed 44% of their opponents' third-down attempts to convert, which was the second-worst in the league. 

Third-Down Stop Percentage:

The Bills' 44% third-down stop percentage was significantly below the NFL average, highlighting their issues with getting off the field on third downs. 

 

 

 

I'm not challenging the truth.  

I'm asking for the data which establish what IS the truth

If it's truth, you should have no problem providing the source of the data which establish that.

 

You started out talking about 3rd and long.

Now you're talking about 3rd down conversions in general

 

Where are the data about 3rd and long?

How do you define 3rd and long (since you reference your eyes watching the games), and how do the data about 3rd and long define it?

Last, since you mentioned what a "casual observer" would be able to tell, I asked what a casual observer tells you about the Chiefs 3rd down defense results?

 

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

22 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Never. 

 

I respect you, Richard, but it doesn't sound like my cup of lemon ginger kombucha.

 

I believe I've just been insulted, sir.