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6 hours ago, BillytheKid said:


This is false. Moore definitely isn’t fighting for the 5th WR spot. He will be starting.  
Palmer, Shakir, and Moore are the 3 best receivers on the team. 
 

Shakir will always be number 1 as far as Josh is concerned but Moore or Palmer could be 2nd or 3rd. 
 

They both have already proved they can play in the league. The Bills didn’t bring him in to be the 5th receiver.

 

Samuel also will be in the top 4 if he plays like he did the last third of the season from last year and the fact he has already proven he can play in the league. 
 

Right now Keon is going to have to be the one to prove himself as he had a major drop off 2nd half of last season and Beane and McDermott were not happy with him. Can he play well enough to jump any of these other guys? Maybe but he is in the 5th position right now, I don’t care if they took him as their top pick last year. He has to prove a lot more. 

BB has made it clear KC needs to do more. He also said he was having a solid start before the injury. To suggest he’s the 5th WR going into this year is not happening. Samuel and Moore are 4 and 5 in no particular. 

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10 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:


I appreciate the kind words. I suppose I land on the side of upside. I think if Moore can’t produce with Allen then his career is likely cooked, but I feel there is still upside there. If they had given Moore the Josh Palmer contract I would have lost it. But to me, all one year deals are no risk propositions. And I do like Moore better than anyone we could have drafted but I think Jeudy is just better. You hope that Royals or Horton have a year like Moore did last year. I think it is ok to like the signing but also keep hopes in line with what is reasonable. 

 

 

Yeah I see it more like this......... if he can't produce either of volume or efficiency when given 100+ targets.......this far into his career...... then he probably isn't going to do it here returning to being a role player.    He's also an idiot.   This unsportsmanlike penalty cost Ole Miss their rivalry game with Miss St.   He KNEW it was going to draw a penalty.   That's the kind of knuckleheaded loser he's been.   Wasn't a surprise when he became a problem in NY when he failed to earn PT.    Cleveland was far from set at WR and they made very little effort to retain a 25 year old with 4.35 speed for a reason.   If he's on the roster on opening day I will root for him but this is a really sketchy add for a lot of reasons.

 

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17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He's also an idiot.   This unsportsmanlike penalty cost Ole Miss their rivalry game with Miss St.   He KNEW it was going to draw a penalty.   That's the kind of knuckleheaded loser he's been.   

 

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lmao, I didn't remember/realize that was Elijah Moore :lol:

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Posted
11 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

BB has made it clear KC needs to do more. He also said he was having a solid start before the injury. To suggest he’s the 5th WR going into this year is not happening. Samuel and Moore are 4 and 5 in no particular. 

Coleman put up 550+ yds and 4 TDs on 29 receptions, averaging 19 yds per rec, which is significantly statistically better than anything Moore has done since his rookie season even with the drop off after the wrist injury. Samuel was injured but came on at the end of the season. With Carolina he was averaging 11.5+ yds per rec and ~5 TDs a season, which is better than anything Moore has done, with his most productive seasons being with Kyle Allen and Teddy Bridgewater, so you can’t say it was because of stellar QB play. His 2020 season with Brady as OC is also more productive from a yds perspective than anyone else in the Bills current receiver room. I hope the people that are so high on Moore are right, but there’s nothing in his pro career so far that suggests to me that he will be anything more than our WR5. 

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12 minutes ago, transient said:

Coleman put up 550+ yds and 4 TDs on 29 receptions, averaging 19 yds per rec, which is significantly statistically better than anything Moore has done since his rookie season even with the drop off after the wrist injury. Samuel was injured but came on at the end of the season. With Carolina he was averaging 11.5+ yds per rec and ~5 TDs a season, which is better than anything Moore has done, with his most productive seasons being with Kyle Allen and Teddy Bridgewater, so you can’t say it was because of stellar QB play. His 2020 season with Brady as OC is also more productive from a yds perspective than anyone else in the Bills current receiver room. I hope the people that are so high on Moore are right, but there’s nothing in his pro career so far that suggests to me that he will be anything more than our WR5. 

 

 

Think it's more a case that many of the posters here who's expert evaluation skills can tell after one injury filled season that Coleman is a bust, much faster than any coaches or front office folks can figure it out.

 

I do think one advantage Moore will have over Cooper last year is that he's here already, through all of mini camps, training camp, and pre-season.  During the season it's hard to get much real practice time.  Wasn't there also something that right after Cooper signed, Allen got dinged up and was barely participating in throwing during the week.  Thought I recalled reading that up till around Dec 1st Cooper and Allen only had like maybe 2 practice sessions together.  Or am I thinking of a guy they  signed mid season the year or two prior?

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If Moore can run 8-10 deep routes a game and pull a safety to his area and make a deep catch every other game then he fulfills his role. 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Well, he has a cool football players name, lol,  hope he contributes to our ultimate success, he has the potential to do so,

🤔… it’d be better if his first name was Herman. 😄

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On 5/3/2025 at 11:50 AM, transient said:

48 pages and counting for a possible WR5 who may or may not make the team.

 

My take, if Vegas hadn't taken Thorton at 108 (Bills at 109) or if Seattle hadn't taken Horton at 166 (Bills at 170) we probably aren't having this conversation. I suspect Beane had this as a near-guaranteed signing in his back pocket during the draft based on his "put a pin in it" comment and his comments to WGR in his WR rant about no opportunities with how the draft fell to attempt to upgrade his top 4 WRs (this signing does not improve the top 4).

 

As it stands, Moore is competition for the bottom of the roster with Shavers, Shenault, Hamler, Virgil and Prather. If he's better, he'll earn a spot. From a purely numbers standpoint he'll need to replace Hollins 31 receptions, 378 yds, and 5 TDs. TDs aside, given his past production the numbers seem easy enough (though Mack did it on 50 tgts, not 100)... the challenge is Mack tended to snag those balls at critical times, and he was a beast as a blocker. I don't know if they'd be counting on Moore (or anyone else in that illustrious list) to be their "clutch" guy.

 

The Bills traded up to 109 to take Walker.  If they had wanted a WR they probably would have stood pat and taken one at their 132nd pick.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, In Summary said:

If Moore can run 8-10 deep routes a game and pull a safety to his area and make a deep catch every other game then he fulfills his role. 

 

Nice summary.

 

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