Brandon Beane on WGR

[NeverOutNick]

18 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

I think it could be argued that Beane is the worst GM in the NFL

He’s an excellent poker player. He tries his best with filling needs. He’s just a terrible evaluator of actual talent. He did a great job getting Josh Allen but he really should have surrounded himself with people who know talent evaluating and keep the coach (who can’t evaluate talent outside of his old carolina stomping grounds) out of the draft room. I think when it comes to wheeling and dealing Beane found his niche but he’s just filling holes to fill them. I want to believe that maybe it’s our scouting department dropping the ball but I don’t think it’s true because we hit on a lot of our late round picks when he probably gives those guys more free reign…He just SUCKS in getting true game changers early so my theory is he either doesn’t know how to or what he’s looking for talent wise early or he’s just McDs errand boy checking off the list in the first few rounds of the draft. 

[DuckyBoys]

McDermott and Beane's legacy will be wasting a once in a lifetime QB due to their own arrogance

[Seventeen]

1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

You absolutely could make that argument. He's a singles hitter 

 

Other than Josh (with whom he was lucky Denver didn't take him), he batting below the Mendoza line.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Rams/Patriots super bowl. Book it.

 

And a hotter take? Bills miss the playoffs 

Edited 1 hour ago by Pine Barrens Mafia

[LarryMadman]

Amazing to me they built a winning team years ago and have dismantled and neglected it over the past few years and it( the team) has become a shell of what they were, its bazaar, absolutely fireable. 

[KHAN]

[Sojourner]

2 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Amazing to me they built a winning team years ago and have dismantled and neglected it over the past few years and it( the team) has become a shell of what they were, its bazaar, absolutely fireable. 

A lot of players who became starters, were decent in their role but have been unable to repeat or sustain what was putting the team at the top of the league or earning them a contract. 
 

Turnovers and unfortunate and sub par play calling on crucial downs and moments is the two biggest issues. At least to me.

[BuffaloBaumer]

16 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

The Jests, Raiders and a few other bottom feeder fans would like for their beers to be held…I mean sure, I’m as ticked as most other Bills fans about our weaknesses in building around Allen (injuries notwithstanding), but I also know that factually there are worse GMs out there who’ve picked higher than us routinely in the draft. 

And literally the only reason why most people think the Jets GM is terrible is because they do not have someone like Josh Allen. They have talent sprayed everywhere around that team.

 

obviously, we cannot ignore that Brandon drafted Josh, but imagine how freaking terrible this team would be without that one player. He no longer gets a hall pass seven years later.

 

his last two drafts are beyond atrocious.

[transient]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

Honestly I believe that over half the teams in the league maybe every team outside the Browns and bengals would’ve won a SB already with Josh Allen. I despise McD and Beane but I blame Pegula even more because what the heck is he doing man. Does he not have anyone in his ear with any football sense at all telling him what a gift it is to have Josh and not to waste it with incompetence?

Allen with the Browns WRs instead of the Bills and their defense under Schwartz… IDK, I think he could do it. 

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I'm sitting here watching all these games today , guys like Pickens, AJ Brown, Xavier worthy, Devonta Smith, Tee Higgins 

 

All making insane game changing plays.

 

I mean, yeah? Great WRs have been making game changing plays since the inception of the NFL and their importance has only grown over time. Watching something like 75% of the fanbase pretend otherwise was like waking up to find that flat earth theory had become the dominant point of view. People on here literally said having a true WR1 is bad for your offense because they want the ball too much. The one bright spot of this season is we can permanently bury that insane take. Unfortunately the people in charge of the team led the brigade on that take - they even sold merchandise off of the idea - so hopefully they'll be buried along with it as soon as possible.

[TheFunPolice]

Some say "it's not like they didn't try!" As if that matters.

 

Trying isn't the job. Results are the job. Everybody tries. 

 

I don't blame Pegula for not firing Beane yet because the season hasn't played out. What if we go to the Super Bowl? 

[JaCrispy]

48 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

He’s an excellent poker player. He tries his best with filling needs. He’s just a terrible evaluator of actual talent. He did a great job getting Josh Allen but he really should have surrounded himself with people who know talent evaluating and keep the coach (who can’t evaluate talent outside of his old carolina stomping grounds) out of the draft room. I think when it comes to wheeling and dealing Beane found his niche but he’s just filling holes to fill them. I want to believe that maybe it’s our scouting department dropping the ball but I don’t think it’s true because we hit on a lot of our late round picks when he probably gives those guys more free reign…He just SUCKS in getting true game changers early so my theory is he either doesn’t know how to or what he’s looking for talent wise early or he’s just McDs errand boy checking off the list in the first few rounds of the draft. 

You make good points…

 

I thinks it’s also important to note that Beane was never a “football talent evaluator” type of GM…Beane comes from the money side of things- he’s a salary cap guy, accounting.  He was never the type of person that had an eye for talent.

 

Therefore, he needs to rely on the guys around him, to really give him the X’s and O’s about player evaluation…👍

 

 

Edited 51 minutes ago by JaCrispy

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I mean, yeah? Great WRs have been making game changing plays since the inception of the NFL and their importance has only grown over time. Watching something like 75% of the fanbase pretend otherwise was like waking up to find that flat earth theory had become the dominant point of view. People on here literally said having a true WR1 is bad for your offense because they want the ball too much. The one bright spot of this season is we can permanently bury that insane take. Unfortunately the people in charge of the team led the brigade on that take - they even sold merchandise off of the idea - so hopefully they'll be buried along with it as soon as possible.

 

I want Allen to have weapons like Jerry Rice & John Taylor 

[folz]

2 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I'm sitting here watching all these games today , guys like Pickens, AJ Brown, Xavier worthy, Devonta Smith, Tee Higgins 

 

All making insane game changing plays. It really is eye opening in a disturbing way. Why on God's green Earth does Beane & McDermott not want this???? 

 

If Allen takes these guys to the super bowl, yes I'm saying it right now he's the greatest QB that's ever lived.

 

I couldn't even enjoy football today seeing all these massive plays wide receivers are making. It makes me feel sick 🤢 

Even just watching Dallas as a roster look way better than ours makes me realize how bad beane has been the past number of years. 

 

It's eye opening and it pisses me off 

 

And yet, Dallas is 5-5-1; K.C. is 6-5; Cinn is 3-8 (obviously w/o Burrow). Not saying I wouldn't gladly accept a stud #1 WR on the Bills---but all three of those teams may not make the playoffs this year. The Bills have 7 wins and are still 6th place in scoring (despite the up-and-down slump). K.C., Cincinnati, and Philadelphia have all scored fewer points than the Bills. Only Dallas has scored more (9 more points across 11 games, or 0.8181 points/game).

 

Again, I'm not saying I don't want a stud receiver on the team, but having a stud receiver or even two stud receivers still does not guarantee anything. And before you say we have Josh, those teams have Mahomes, Dak, Hurts, and Burrow/Flacco...not chopped liver.

 

Plus, the 2025 draft was not great for receivers. We were not going to go up to #8 for McMillian, if we went up to #19 from #30 for Egbuka, we would have had to give up at least a 2nd rounder as well---but that seems to have been the only move to make, and who knows if we could have gotten up there or not if we tried). Only 3 other receivers were drafted in the top 50 (Jayden Higgins, Matthew Golden, and Luther Burden). Judging by their stats on their respective teams, I'm not sure any of them would have been help this year.

 

In 2024, the only real move to make was to go up to 23 for Brian Thomas, Jr. (which is what I was hoping for at the time). He had a very good rookie year, but hasn't quite lived up to it in year two. So, who knows. I guess we also could have drafted Ladd, but I understand them thinking he wasn't the type of receiver we needed. That's really it (I'm not sold on Worthy yet). I doubt we could have moved up to spots 4, 6 or 9 from 28 for any of the top three guys (we would have needed another first round selection, which we didn't have,  or give up say 2025 1st and our 2024 4th round picks or our 2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 7th round picks).

 

In 2025 free agency, Davante Adams was the only stud WR available (going to LAR). In 2024 free agency, Calvin Ridley was the only big WR available. One each year, with 32 teams.

 

As far as trades: 2024: Keenen Allen and  Davante Adams (other name WR trades included Deandre Hopkins, Cooper to Bills, and Diggs). 2025: Pickens and Metcalf (Meyers). 

 

So, between FA and trades, basically three stud WRs each of the last two years moved (again, with 31 teams each whom may want them).

 

I mean, maybe it isn't as easy as we think to just go out and get a stud #1 WR. And that's before even talking about contracts and cap.

But, having said all of that, I also have no issue with fans wishing Brandon took more shots at the WR position at least.

[NeverOutNick]

1 minute ago, JaCrispy said:

You make good points…

 

I thinks it’s also important to note the Beane was never a “football talent evaluator” type of GM…Beane comes from the money side of things- he’s a salary cap guy, accounting.  He was never the type of person that had an eye for talent.

 

Therefore, he needs to rely on the guys around him, to really give him the X’s and O’s about player evaluation…👍

If that’s the case then he really needs to hire Ozzie Newsome as a consultant to not botch the first 3 rounds and kick McD out of the room entirely 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, folz said:

 

And yet, Dallas is 5-5-1; K.C. is 6-5; Cinn is 3-8 (obviously w/o Burrow). Not saying I wouldn't gladly accept a stud #1 WR on the Bills---but all three of those teams may not make the playoffs this year. The Bills have 7 wins and are still 6th place in scoring (despite the up-and-down slump). K.C., Cincinnati, and Philadelphia have all scored fewer points than the Bills. Only Dallas has scored more (9 more points across 11 games, or 0.8181 points/game).

 

Again, I'm not saying I don't want a stud receiver on the team, but having a stud receiver or even two stud receivers still does not guarantee anything. And before you say we have Josh, those teams have Mahomes, Dak, Hurts, and Burrow/Flacco...not chopped liver.

 

Plus, the 2025 draft was not great for receivers. We were not going to go up to #8 for McMillian, if we went up to #19 from #30 for Egbuka, we would have had to give up at least a 2nd rounder as well---but that seems to have been the only move to make, and who knows if we could have gotten up there or not if we tried). Only 3 other receivers were drafted in the top 50 (Jayden Higgins, Matthew Golden, and Luther Burden). Judging by their stats on their respective teams, I'm not sure any of them would have been help this year.

 

In 2024, the only real move to make was to go up to 23 for Brian Thomas, Jr. (which is what I was hoping for at the time). He had a very good rookie year, but hasn't quite lived up to it in year two. So, who knows. I guess we also could have drafted Ladd, but I understand them thinking he wasn't the type of receiver we needed. That's really it (I'm not sold on Worthy yet). I doubt we could have moved up to spots 4, 6 or 9 from 28 for any of the top three guys (we would have needed another first round selection, which we didn't have,  or give up say 2025 1st and our 2024 4th round picks or our 2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 7th round picks).

 

In 2025 free agency, Davante Adams was the only stud WR available (going to LAR). In 2024 free agency, Calvin Ridley was the only big WR available. One each year, with 32 teams.

 

As far as trades: 2024: Keenen Allen and  Davante Adams (other name WR trades included Deandre Hopkins, Cooper to Bills, and Diggs). 2025: Pickens and Metcalf (Meyers). 

 

So, between FA and trades, basically three stud WRs each of the last two years moved (again, with 31 teams each whom may want them).

 

I mean, maybe it isn't as easy as we think to just go out and get a stud #1 WR. And that's before even talking about contracts and cap.

But, having said all of that, I also have no issue with fans wishing Brandon took more shots at the WR position at least.

 

The reason buffalo has 7 wins is because he has this eras Elway.

 

Those 80s denver teams were kinda meh. Similar to buffalo. 

 

The good news is it really only takes 2-3 superstars to make a big difference 

[SCBills]

I’m watching the Rams demolish people as the Super Bowl front runner and I have to remember our brilliant GM said he runs this team as to not be like them. 
 

[Billz4ever]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I mean, yeah? Great WRs have been making game changing plays since the inception of the NFL and their importance has only grown over time. Watching something like 75% of the fanbase pretend otherwise was like waking up to find that flat earth theory had become the dominant point of view. People on here literally said having a true WR1 is bad for your offense because they want the ball too much. The one bright spot of this season is we can permanently bury that insane take. Unfortunately the people in charge of the team led the brigade on that take - they even sold merchandise off of the idea - so hopefully they'll be buried along with it as soon as possible.

Remember back when Diggs was here and all we were asking for was a steady WR2 to complement Diggs and take some attention away from him?  

 

Now, Beane has somehow managed to convince a good portion of this fan base we didn't even really need a competent WR2 even though he was contemplating parting ways with a first round pick mid-season, which to me is an admission he knows he's wrong.

8 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Some say "it's not like they didn't try!" As if that matters.

 

Trying isn't the job. Results are the job. Everybody tries. 

 

I don't blame Pegula for not firing Beane yet because the season hasn't played out. What if we go to the Super Bowl? 

I'd be more worried about making the playoffs at this point.

 

Josh Allen is only taking this team so far and the lack of talent on this roster has reached critical mass.  Josh simple can't do enough to hide it anymore.

Edited 43 minutes ago by Billz4ever

[NeverOutNick]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

I’m watching the Rams demolish people as the Super Bowl front runner and I have to remember our brilliant GM said he runs this team as to not be like them. 
 

Yes don’t go all in to win a Super Bowl. We want all those draft picks or how else would our D line consist of so many 1st and 2nd day of the draft starters. I mean we’ve got Greg Rousseau, Boogie Basham, AJ Epenesa, Dwayne Carter, Landon Jackson and TJ Sanders! Rotating fringe NFL talent since 2019 McBeane style 😉 

[HappyDays]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

Remember back when Diggs was here and all we were asking for was a steady WR2 to complement Diggs and take some attention away from him? 

 

Yup I was arguing with people on here that having two legit WRs is a key component to being a Super Bowl team. Eventually we regressed as a fanbase and I was trying to convince people that having ONE was important. I don't really understand what happened there but at least we've woken up from that collective fever dream.