Bills First Rnd pick in 2025 draft: Maxwell Hairston - CB - Kentucky

[Dillenger4]

26 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Max just hurt his knee.

Or his achiles. Doesn't look good. At all. Players consoling him with tears... not good.

[Johnnycage46]

16 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Or his achiles. Doesn't look good. At all. Players consoling him with tears... not good.

Yep, sucks big time

[BarleyNY]

18 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Or his achiles. Doesn't look good. At all. Players consoling him with tears... not good.

I hope he’s okay, obviously. In defense of Beane, I thought Hairston was a high upside CB prospect with a substantially higher than average injury risk. I still liked seeing him take a shot at a player who had a real shot at greatness. Now to where we are today….. 🤞

Edited Tuesday at 03:27 PM by BarleyNY

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Or his achiles. Doesn't look good. At all. Players consoling him with tears... not good.

 

Dang. That does not sound good at all. 

Just looked at the video of the trainers attending to him. It looks very like they were performing the checks you'd perform for an ACL. 

 

That doesn't mean it is an ACL, obviously, but the trainers clearly suspect it.

[BarleyNY]

Hearing it is his knee and he walked off with the help a trainer. My guess is knee ligament(s). 

[GunnerBill]

On the plus side... Sounds like Tre had another really strong practice. That is at least three days in the first week where he has looked good. We might be about to need it.

[RoscoeParrish]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

 

No one was doubting Johnson's talent level there was a big medical red flag with him. So it is not surprising he is getting a good start but if he is chronically hurt then we know why he fell. Max looks to having a nice camp esp for a rookie and I would rather have a durable good player than a great player who only plays half a season. 

I blame you for this

[May Day 10]

3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Hearing it is his knee and he walked off with the help a trainer. My guess is knee ligament(s). 

 

They were conducting the Lachman test which is a field test to determine if the ACL is intact.  They pretty much know on the spot.  

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

They were conducting the Lachman test which is a field test to determine if the ACL is intact.  They pretty much know on the spot.  

 

Yep that is what it looked like to me too. Can never remember its name "Lachman" test. Gonna try and commit to memory this time. Haha.

[RoscoeParrish]

5 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

They were conducting the Lachman test which is a field test to determine if the ACL is intact.  They pretty much know on the spot.  

It’s okay but not a perfect test.

 

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep that is what it looked like to me too. Can never remember its name "Lachman" test. Gonna try and commit to memory this time. Haha.

There’s a couple different maneuvers. Anterior drawer, etc etc.

 

Ultimately, any question, and the guy is headed straight to MRI.

[BarleyNY]

 

 

[HappyDays]

40 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Players consoling him with tears...

 

So we're just making stuff up now?

 

What actually happened is a trainer did the ACL stability test on him, then after running it he extended his hand to help Hairston up and walk slowly off the field. If the stability test failed I doubt that would have been the trainer's response.

 

Either way it's getting close to calling the competition for Tre. I don't see how Hairston can steal the job at this point given his struggles and now this injury, and with Tre looking pretty good in camp.

[K-9]

20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

On the plus side... Sounds like Tre had another really strong practice. That is at least three days in the first week where he has looked good. We might be about to need it.

As I said last week, I’ve heard he is moving better than he has in years. 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Max just hurt his knee.

I saw the video he walked off under his own power without assistance. Hopefully it’s just a knee sprain or something minor. Injuries are a part of the game sadly. Been a lot of dings so far in camp. 
 

update: he looks to have needed some assistance from the trainer. Just have to hope for the best.

Edited Tuesday at 04:00 PM by billsfan89

[Chandler#81]

He’s fine. Rub some dirt on it and gitcherazz back on the field!

[Dillenger4]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Dang. That does not sound good at all. 

Just looked at the video of the trainers attending to him. It looks very like they were performing the checks you'd perform for an ACL. 

 

That doesn't mean it is an ACL, obviously, but the trainers clearly suspect it.

I agree. And the fact that it was a "quick" check, then the tears.... ugh

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

So we're just making stuff up now?

 

What actually happened is a trainer did the ACL stability test on him, then after running it he extended his hand to help Hairston up and walk slowly off the field. If the stability test failed I doubt that would have been the trainer's response.

 

Either way it's getting close to calling the competition for Tre. I don't see how Hairston can steal the job at this point given his struggles and now this injury, and with Tre looking pretty good in camp.

Wut? Watched it live bud - he stood up, then the tears came hard. Tre white stood with him to console him as Max was very upset.

[BarleyNY]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

So we're just making stuff up now?

 

What actually happened is a trainer did the ACL stability test on him, then after running it he extended his hand to help Hairston up and walk slowly off the field. If the stability test failed I doubt that would have been the trainer's response.

 

Either way it's getting close to calling the competition for Tre. I don't see how Hairston can steal the job at this point given his struggles and now this injury, and with Tre looking pretty good in camp.

 

1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

I saw the video he walked off under his own power without assistance. Hopefully it’s just a knee sprain or something minor. Injuries are a part of the game sadly. Been a lot of dings so far in camp.

 

I can’t see what Tre’s response was, but there were not multiple players around him with tears in their eyes. That’s a bit of a relief. 

 

I’ve been present for multiple ACL tears. After a complete tear there is usually no (or minimal) pain. Partial tears are usually painful. A person can easily walk with a fully torn ACL that’s the only part of the knee that is injured. 

 

The trainer did help Hairston off the field, but we do not know why. It could’ve just been precautionary.

 

We just have to wait and see. While I am not filled with hope at this point, I’m not devoid of it either. 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

I agree. And the fact that it was a "quick" check, then the tears.... ugh

Wut? Watched it live bud - he stood up, then the tears came hard. Tre white stood with him to console him as Max was very upset.

As pointed out above.  They typically know on the spot if it’s a tear. 
 

And while you can walk off with a tear, it’s not advisable, and a trainer who just performed a test would typically not prompt you to walk off like the video shows. 

[BarleyNY]

5 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

I agree. And the fact that it was a "quick" check, then the tears.... ugh

Wut? Watched it live bud - he stood up, then the tears came hard. Tre white stood with him to console him as Max was very upset.

Crap. That’s not good. Thanks for the clarification. 

[Brand J]

5 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

I agree. And the fact that it was a "quick" check, then the tears.... ugh

Wut? Watched it live bud - he stood up, then the tears came hard. Tre white stood with him to console him as Max was very upset.

I saw a dour look in his eyes, for sure, but no tears, or visible crying.