Diggs' Drama

[Doc Brown]

14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Oh Diggs was a "sure thing" all right lol!

 

If Roseman had not also put together a roster that played in 2 of the last 3 SBs, destroying a 15 win Chiefs team, you might have a point.   They could shrug of a bad decision at WR.  He quickly rebounded by drafting Smith and then traded for AJ Brown.  Beane brought in his usual minibus load of week old bread bin guys who end their careers in Buffalo soon after their 1 year paper expires....

 

Diggs never moved the needle for the Bills--zero impact: with or without Diggs, Bills win the division, lose to the Chiefs in the playoffs.  It cost a potential top rookie WR on a 5 year contract and 31 million in dead cap, plus all the predictable immaturity/headaches.

So he traded a 1st round pick for a sure thing for a WR diva in AJ Brown who has given them three straight 1,000 yard seasons and has been instrumental in helping Hurts develop as a quarterback.  Bright guy.

[Since1981]

Does 17 win MVP last year with Diggs on the team? I suspect “no”. No way to prove it but it seems true.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

So he traded a 1st round pick for a sure thing for a WR diva in AJ Brown who has given them three straight 1,000 yard seasons and has been instrumental in helping Hurts develop as a quarterback.  Bright guy.

Amazingly, both are still on their roster.  
 

2 Super Bowls. A Lombardi.

 

Diggs is gone with less than nothing to show for it.  No SBs…. 

[Doc Brown]

30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Amazingly, both are still on their roster.  
 

2 Super Bowls. A Lombardi.

 

Diggs is gone with less than nothing to show for it.  No SBs…. 

You can say that about any Buffalo Bill whoever played.  I think you’re hatred for Diggs maybe clouding your judgement.

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

Tee Higgins & Michael Pittman Jr. would have been options if he had stayed at 22 regardless of whether Jefferson was still there.

The above doesn’t strengthen your argument IMO.

 

Pittman’s best days appear behind him and Higgins without Chase is an interesting thought exercise.

 

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

He could've just as easily picked Henry Ruggs or Jalen Rheagor if he moved up that far.  Josh needed a veteran #1 WR to develop as a passer.  Diggs was a better WR than everybody in that draft class besides Justin Jefferson in 2020.

He tends to do that.  That's why I'm not salivating over Elijah Moore or Josh Palmer right now.  The majority of us were happy at the time.

I agree with those who believe that the trade for Diggs was a good one. Could it have worked out better? Sure. Did it work well for awhile? Absolutely. Was it a hopeful risk that Diggs would parlay his second chance into becoming a better person? Of course. Did it work out that way? No. Did Beane do good damage control by getting a 2nd? Yes, very much so. How damaging was the cap hit? Not very based on last year’s results and the current state of the team. 

[dcinmuncie]

10 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Would the better move have been to draft Justin Jefferson with that pick and created arguably one of the Legendary QB/WR1 pairs in history with JA 17 and JJ 18. Looking back is always what coulda shoulda.

Hindsight fantasy scenario (which I’ve been guilty of thinking about many times too)

 

if anyone realized how awesome Jefferson would be, he would have never lasted until pick 20 or whatever he was picked at

 

at the time, this (the trade for diggs) seemed to be the right move 

[QCity]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Look at the thread when he signed.  People were ecstatic.  Diggs fooled us all.

 

 

 

Not all. Fans are always going to cheerlead re-signings regardless of money, term, structure etc. Those threads are just echo chambers. Re-reading that thread is absolutely hilarious though. 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Since1981 said:

Does 17 win MVP last year with Diggs on the team? I suspect “no”. No way to prove it but it seems true.

He pry doesn't because the narrative for Josh over Lamar is he did more with less.  If Diggs was on the team you couldn't make as strong of an argument.  Josh's best year was 2020 but Rodgers played out of his mind that year.

12 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

I agree with those who believe that the trade for Diggs was a good one. Could it have worked out better? Sure. Did it work well for awhile? Absolutely. Was it a hopeful risk that Diggs would parlay his second chance into becoming a better person? Of course. Did it work out that way? No. Did Beane do good damage control by getting a 2nd? Yes, very much so. How damaging was the cap hit? Not very based on last year’s results and the current state of the team. 

It boggles my mind that people don't.  Our offense went from 23rd in the league (26th passing) in 2019 to 2nd in the league (3rd in passing) with the only major additions on offense being Diggs and Daryl Williams.  

[NickelCity]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

It boggles my mind that people don't.  Our offense went from 23rd in the league (26th passing) in 2019 to 2nd in the league (3rd in passing) with the only major additions on offense being Diggs and Daryl Williams.  

 

The trade for Diggs was absolutely a good one. Those run of years plus a second? Ended poorly but whatever. No guarantee we even take Jefferson so I set how that turned out aside. 

[Doc Brown]

13 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

Not all. Fans are always going to cheerlead re-signings regardless of money, term, structure etc. Those threads are just echo chambers. Re-reading that thread is absolutely hilarious though. 

True but that particular thread is way over the top which showed how enamored fans were with Diggs.  Now they're trying to argue it was a bad trade because Beane should've had the foresight to see Justin Jefferson slip to #20?  GTFO here with that nonsense.

[Mike in Horseheads]

Lets not forget, McD doesn't like playing rookies so who knows how Jefferson would have turned out here.

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, NickelCity said:

 

The trade for Diggs was absolutely a good one. Those run of years plus a second? Ended poorly but whatever. No guarantee we even take Jefferson so I set how that turned out aside. 

 

I have on good authority the guy the Bills were essentially using as the counterbalance to giving up the pick for Diggs was Tee Higgins. Doesn't mean they WOULD have picked him. They were still some weeks out from the draft but it tells you where their mind was at. 

[Sierra Foothills]

35 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I have on good authority the guy the Bills were essentially using as the counterbalance to giving up the pick for Diggs was Tee Higgins. Doesn't mean they WOULD have picked him. They were still some weeks out from the draft but it tells you where their mind was at. 

 

Again though, even had the Bills kept their pick and taken Higgins, that's a guarantee of nothing.

 

Being a rookie and presumed number one receiver in Buffalo is quite different than being the number two behind Jamar Chase in Cinci.

 

[Doc Brown]

28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have on good authority the guy the Bills were essentially using as the counterbalance to giving up the pick for Diggs was Tee Higgins. Doesn't mean they WOULD have picked him. They were still some weeks out from the draft but it tells you where their mind was at. 

Interesting.  Higgins seems like their type of WR so it makes sense.  I always saw Josh as a very visual QB who has to see WR's separating before throwing.    His arm strength lets him get away with it.  Brown, Beasley, and Diggs all fit that bill.  I don't want to bury Coleman yet but I still just don't get the pick.

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Again though, even had the Bills kept their pick and taken Higgins, that's a guarantee of nothing.

 

Being a rookie and presumed number one receiver in Buffalo is quite different than being the number two behind Jamar Chase in Cinci.

 

 

Completely.

[Ayjent]

I find the ESPN headline Vrabel stresses decision making amid Diggs video kind of funny.  Says the team giving a 31 yr old wr coming off an acl injury a 3 yr 64 million deal.  Look i loved Diggs in buffalo and thought he had a strong desire to win (maybe not in the most productive ways) but when they moved on i also thought it was probably the right move.  He showed a lot of people up when he thought they didnt come through in big moments and then had the ultimate chance to get it done as the guy and didnt.   It was just a stale relationship that had no good path forward it was a good trade all things considered.  

Edited yesterday at 10:07 AM by Ayjent

[Since1981]

12 hours ago, Since1981 said:

Does 17 win MVP last year with Diggs on the team? I suspect “no”. No way to prove it but it seems true.

The irony and contrast in the weekend news about Diggs vs Josh is incredible. It’s like that friend we all had—the one you kinda got thrown together with at school etc, but now you just have to move on from.

[CNYfan]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have on good authority the guy the Bills were essentially using as the counterbalance to giving up the pick for Diggs was Tee Higgins. Doesn't mean they WOULD have picked him. They were still some weeks out from the draft but it tells you where their mind was at. 

I remember the Bills sent a heavy contingent to Tee Higgins pro day, just about everybody, just prior to making the trade for Diggs.  So that was always my belief as well that Higgins was the option.  

[Ralonzo]

On 5/28/2025 at 2:40 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Sources say it’s awesome but drugs ruin lives. 

 

Sources

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

There is buzz the Pats might release Diggs, not just over the boat incident either…including things like questioning if he’s really all in there in NE.  
 

He better find a way to convince people in NE he is worth keeping around and fast because there is no way at 31, coming off an ACL, and then being released (if he is) that he will get anything close to what NE gave him which honestly was already a legit shock.  
 

He gets released then he better be ready to play on a cheap 1 year deal because that’s all he will get, if even that.