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4 minutes ago, papazoid said:


It says in the second link radiant heating. 

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Are the actual seats heated? Or is this radiant heat being ‘cast’ down on them? If it’s the latter then it makes no difference if you’re standing. If it’s the former then I’ll bet money they’ll all be broken in three years…tops. 


The in-seat heating didn't last long in the current clubs. It was pretty awful.

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On 4/15/2024 at 8:55 PM, Augie said:

 

On the aisle?  Do they cost extra? I’d pay a premium to be on the aisle vs the middle of the row. 

I know aisle seats are preferable for most, but since I don't get up and move a whole lot during the game, I'd rather be in the middle.

 

Sitting in an aisle seat you have to keep getting up every time someone from the interior seats needs to get something to eat or drink, or hit the rest room. Sometimes it's not too bad, but if there are restless kids and people who need to pee more frequently (like my wife),  you're up and down all afternoon with these short attention span fans if you're on the end.

 

I can easily sit until halftime or after the half until game end without having to go anywhere. Give me the middle seats.

                                           

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1 minute ago, SoMAn said:

I know aisle seats are preferable for most, but since I don't get up and move a whole lot during the game, I'd rather be in the middle.

 

Sitting in an aisle seat you have to keep getting up every time someone from the interior seats needs to get something to eat or drink, or hit the rest room. Sometimes it's not too bad, but if there are restless kids and people who need to pee more frequently (like my wife),  you're up and down all afternoon with these short attention span fans if you're on the end.

 

I can easily sit until halftime of game end without having to go anywhere. Give me the middle seats.

                                           

 

To each their own, and I understand your rationale. I just tend to be a bit claustrophobic and I’m up and down all game anyway. 

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2 hours ago, Einstein said:


The in-seat heating didn't last long in the current clubs. It was pretty awful.

The Founder’s Club seats are heated seats and also have radiant heat overhead. Those seats and row depth are enormous. Rob could sit on Rex’s lap (nasty image) and they still would not reach the seat in front of them.

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1 hour ago, Mr Info said:

The Founder’s Club seats are heated seats and also have radiant heat overhead. Those seats and row depth are enormous. Rob could sit on Rex’s lap (nasty image) and they still would not reach the seat in front of them.

 

I love the radiant heating. It is plenty for me personally. 

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5 hours ago, Einstein said:


The in-seat heating didn't last long in the current clubs. It was pretty awful.

Um, no it’s not. The seat heaters were a disaster. They hired a company out of Europe that hadn’t done it before. They broke at alarming rates. Over the last 15ish years, the radiant heat has been above the seats. It works well. I sit directly under it. 

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36 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Sounds like we agree? Not sure what you mean by “no it’s not”?

Just found the “in seat heating” to be vague. Maybe you meant that the heaters within the seats didn’t work. On that, we agree. It’s been over 20 years since the Bills sold that as a benefit and like 18 years since they last tried to service them. Not sure why that’s a talking point? 
 

It was replaced with radiant heat, maybe 15 years ago and that works great. “In seat heating” encompasses both. One works fine (radiant heat). One was a disaster (heated chair backs) that ended 2 decades ago. Just clarifying for those trying to understand the whole picture without any sort of agenda being injected. 

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Um, no it’s not. The seat heaters were a disaster. They hired a company out of Europe that hadn’t done it before. They broke at alarming rates. Over the last 15ish years, the radiant heat has been above the seats. It works well. I sit directly under it. 

According to our rep when we went on the tour of the clubs a few years ago they told us that the company that did them went out of business and that’s why they scraped trying to fix them and went with the radiant heaters. I’m not saying what you said was wrong. I’m assuming it’s correct. Just relaying that the company most have been so terrible at what they did that they went out of business. 

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47 minutes ago, mrags said:

According to our rep when we went on the tour of the clubs a few years ago they told us that the company that did them went out of business and that’s why they scraped trying to fix them and went with the radiant heaters. I’m not saying what you said was wrong. I’m assuming it’s correct. Just relaying that the company most have been so terrible at what they did that they went out of business. 

That’s 100% true. They hadn’t done it before. They tried to fix them for a few years but it didn’t work. The company went out of business and they went to the radiant heat. There were a couple of years of neither actually (maybe around 2005). 

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2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Just found the “in seat heating” to be vague. Maybe you meant that the heaters within the seats didn’t work

 

Yes that’s exactly what I meant. The heaters in the seat didn’t work. I love the radiant heating.

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57 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s 100% true. They hadn’t done it before. They tried to fix them for a few years but it didn’t work.

 

The Bills and/or Erie Co share the blame in this. Why would you hire a company to install in-seat heating that has never done it before?

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2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

 

The Bills and/or Erie Co share the blame in this. Why would you hire a company to install in-seat heating that has never done it before?

For sure!! The memory is a little fuzzy but I think that the company heated the pitches in England. They had never done seats before. They tried to bring the technology to the seats. It worked for a little while but they started to break. Fixing them was costly. Then the company when bankrupt and parts were gone. Disaster

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27 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

 

The Bills and/or Erie Co share the blame in this. Why would you hire a company to install in-seat heating that has never done it before?

I would guess the contractor or sub contractor did this.  I doubt very much the peeps at OBD are researching seat heaters

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45 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

For sure!! The memory is a little fuzzy but I think that the company heated the pitches in England. They had never done seats before. They tried to bring the technology to the seats. It worked for a little while but they started to break. Fixing them was costly. Then the company when bankrupt and parts were gone. Disaster

Another way to look at it was a new tech that nobody has really really tried yet. If it worked we wouldn’t be complaining about it. From what I hear from people is they preferred those to what we have now. But I’m guessing that’s all opinion. 

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13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Heated seats? We used to sit in the cold and the wet at the Rockpile while praying our car would still be where we left it before the game! Ahhhh, the memories. 

And….sometimes you found out that your totally unheated seat was directly behind a big steel post. 

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